WTB 4ohm 15" speaker for a tone ring project

xavi

Joined: Nov 04, 2013
Posts: 58
Balearic Islands
Spain

Posted on Feb 11 2015 05:13 PM

Hi everyone,
I would like to buy a good 4 ohm 15" speaker for a tone ring cab project.
I've read good reviews on the 15" Weber NeoMag, but unfortunately it's not available from weber anymore due to unavailability of parts...
Does anyone have any to sell? Any suggestions?
Thanks!

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Matt22

Joined: Feb 15, 2007
Posts: 2858
Fredericksburg, Virginia
United States

Posted on Feb 11 2015 10:23 PM

Weber California is very good. I have one in my 15" tone ring cab. It's supposed to be a JBL D-130 clone.

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dirkkahuna

Joined: Dec 21, 2012
Posts: 77
Willow Street, PA
United States

Posted on Feb 12 2015 08:07 AM

I like the Eminence Commonwealth 15" speaker...

http://www.usspeaker.com/Commonwealth15-1.htm

I have a slightly used one for sale but at 22+ lbs shipping will be up there...

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xavi

Joined: Nov 04, 2013
Posts: 58
Balearic Islands
Spain

Posted on Feb 12 2015 10:27 AM

Thanks guys,
Indeed shipping costs an arm and a leg...
I think I will give those weber california a chance. Matt did you choose alnico or ceramics? aluminium or paper dome ? it's the aluminium dome too bright?
thanks for your advices

Last edited: Feb 12, 2015 10:28:15

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eddiekatcher

Joined: Mar 14, 2006
Posts: 2778
Atlanta, GA
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Posted on Feb 12 2015 01:56 PM

Another option you might want to consider is the Peavy 1501-4BW which is their in-house built steel guitar speaker. I have several of these in several different cabinets including a single 15 tone ring Fender. They have performed well in every cabinet that I have rotated them in and out of. If I can't have my favorite EV-15L's (and there are some 4 ohm ones, rare but they do exist), they are my plan B.

They are indestructible for what we use them for and you can even rebuild Peavy Black Widows yourself at home if necessary. That's a neat feature. US Speaker has them as well as a new Eminence 4 ohm neo, aluminum cap guitar speaker for steel guitars. Pricey but available.

Aluminum caps look really cool and they can be "detuned" to remover some of the annoying bite if necessary by masking off the paper cone and spraying the cap with several layers of clear spray paint. I've used Krylon to take some of that bite out and that worked really well. They look stock and sound better.

Information overload,

ed

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kick_the_reverb

Joined: Feb 26, 2006
Posts: 1339
Escondido, CA
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Posted on Feb 12 2015 09:24 PM

I have a Commonwealth, and I am even flying to Spain in a couple of weeks, but will be with my family and it is quite a hassle to bring such a speaker. Lorenzo had it in his hands this past summer and decided against trying to fly it because it would have been damaged in the suitcase.

But going back to advice, besides the options mentioned above is the JBL M151, which is like a 4 Ohm K130 that JBL built for Peavy, before Peavy started making the Black Widows.

Good luck,
Ran

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eddiekatcher

Joined: Mar 14, 2006
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Atlanta, GA
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Posted on Feb 12 2015 09:52 PM

The Surge!'s long time bass player Mitch Matrix used a pair of the M-151's in his bass rig's two 1-15 cabs like in WoodyJ's pix, which was often times powered by a Bassman 400 head. Those were awful tough speakers for K-130 clones.

It took Mitch quite a while to find the second one. Kind of rare they seem to be.

Story goes that JBL pissed Hartley off and so Hartley hired their number one musical instrument speaker engineer to build their speakers in house.

ed

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Traditional........speak softly and play through a big blonde amp. Did I mention that I still like big blonde amps?

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Matt22

Joined: Feb 15, 2007
Posts: 2858
Fredericksburg, Virginia
United States

Posted on Feb 12 2015 10:11 PM

xavi wrote:

Thanks guys,
Indeed shipping costs an arm and a leg...
I think I will give those weber california a chance. Matt did you choose alnico or ceramics? aluminium or paper dome ? it's the aluminium dome too bright?
thanks for your advices

I've tried them in all and I can't really tell a difference. Alnico or ceramic

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Matt "tha Kat" Lentz
Skippy and the Skipjacks: 2018-2020
Skippyandtheskipjacks.net
https://www.facebook.com/skippyandtheskipjacks
Otto and the Ottomans: 2014-2015
The Coconauts surf band: 2009-2014
www.theamazingcoconauts.com
Group Captain and the Mandrakes 2013
http://www.gcmband.com/
The Surfside IV: 2002-2005, 2008-2009
the Del-Vamps: 1992-1999, 2006-2007
http://www.dblcrown.com/delvamps.html

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eddiekatcher

Joined: Mar 14, 2006
Posts: 2778
Atlanta, GA
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Posted on Feb 13 2015 12:08 PM

I second that Matt. I can't hear any difference between 6k6's and 6V6's in a reverb tank either.

old ears ed

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Traditional........speak softly and play through a big blonde amp. Did I mention that I still like big blonde amps?

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xavi Joined: Nov 04, 2013 Posts: 58 Balearic Islands	Posted on Feb 11 2015 05:13 PM Hi everyone, I would like to buy a good 4 ohm 15" speaker for a tone ring cab project. I've read good reviews on the 15" Weber NeoMag, but unfortunately it's not available from weber anymore due to unavailability of parts... Does anyone have any to sell? Any suggestions? Thanks! Top
Matt22 Joined: Feb 15, 2007 Posts: 2858 Fredericksburg, Virginia	Posted on Feb 11 2015 10:23 PM Weber California is very good. I have one in my 15" tone ring cab. It's supposed to be a JBL D-130 clone. — Matt "tha Kat" Lentz Skippy and the Skipjacks: 2018-2020 Skippyandtheskipjacks.net https://www.facebook.com/skippyandtheskipjacks Otto and the Ottomans: 2014-2015 The Coconauts surf band: 2009-2014 www.theamazingcoconauts.com Group Captain and the Mandrakes 2013 http://www.gcmband.com/ The Surfside IV: 2002-2005, 2008-2009 the Del-Vamps: 1992-1999, 2006-2007 http://www.dblcrown.com/delvamps.html Top
dirkkahuna Joined: Dec 21, 2012 Posts: 77 Willow Street, PA	Posted on Feb 12 2015 08:07 AM I like the Eminence Commonwealth 15" speaker... http://www.usspeaker.com/Commonwealth15-1.htm I have a slightly used one for sale but at 22+ lbs shipping will be up there... — give me 3-fingers of 1st Wave SURF Top
xavi Joined: Nov 04, 2013 Posts: 58 Balearic Islands	Posted on Feb 12 2015 10:27 AM Thanks guys, Indeed shipping costs an arm and a leg... I think I will give those weber california a chance. Matt did you choose alnico or ceramics? aluminium or paper dome ? it's the aluminium dome too bright? thanks for your advices Last edited: Feb 12, 2015 10:28:15 Top
eddiekatcher Joined: Mar 14, 2006 Posts: 2778 Atlanta, GA	Posted on Feb 12 2015 01:56 PM Another option you might want to consider is the Peavy 1501-4BW which is their in-house built steel guitar speaker. I have several of these in several different cabinets including a single 15 tone ring Fender. They have performed well in every cabinet that I have rotated them in and out of. If I can't have my favorite EV-15L's (and there are some 4 ohm ones, rare but they do exist), they are my plan B. They are indestructible for what we use them for and you can even rebuild Peavy Black Widows yourself at home if necessary. That's a neat feature. US Speaker has them as well as a new Eminence 4 ohm neo, aluminum cap guitar speaker for steel guitars. Pricey but available. Aluminum caps look really cool and they can be "detuned" to remover some of the annoying bite if necessary by masking off the paper cone and spraying the cap with several layers of clear spray paint. I've used Krylon to take some of that bite out and that worked really well. They look stock and sound better. Information overload, ed — Traditional........speak softly and play through a big blonde amp. Did I mention that I still like big blonde amps? Top
kick_the_reverb Joined: Feb 26, 2006 Posts: 1339 Escondido, CA	Posted on Feb 12 2015 09:24 PM I have a Commonwealth, and I am even flying to Spain in a couple of weeks, but will be with my family and it is quite a hassle to bring such a speaker. Lorenzo had it in his hands this past summer and decided against trying to fly it because it would have been damaged in the suitcase. But going back to advice, besides the options mentioned above is the JBL M151, which is like a 4 Ohm K130 that JBL built for Peavy, before Peavy started making the Black Widows. Good luck, Ran — The Scimitars Top
eddiekatcher Joined: Mar 14, 2006 Posts: 2778 Atlanta, GA	Posted on Feb 12 2015 09:52 PM The Surge!'s long time bass player Mitch Matrix used a pair of the M-151's in his bass rig's two 1-15 cabs like in WoodyJ's pix, which was often times powered by a Bassman 400 head. Those were awful tough speakers for K-130 clones. It took Mitch quite a while to find the second one. Kind of rare they seem to be. Story goes that JBL pissed Hartley off and so Hartley hired their number one musical instrument speaker engineer to build their speakers in house. ed — Traditional........speak softly and play through a big blonde amp. Did I mention that I still like big blonde amps? Top
Matt22 Joined: Feb 15, 2007 Posts: 2858 Fredericksburg, Virginia	Posted on Feb 12 2015 10:11 PM xavi wrote: Thanks guys, Indeed shipping costs an arm and a leg... I think I will give those weber california a chance. Matt did you choose alnico or ceramics? aluminium or paper dome ? it's the aluminium dome too bright? thanks for your advices I've tried them in all and I can't really tell a difference. Alnico or ceramic — Matt "tha Kat" Lentz Skippy and the Skipjacks: 2018-2020 Skippyandtheskipjacks.net https://www.facebook.com/skippyandtheskipjacks Otto and the Ottomans: 2014-2015 The Coconauts surf band: 2009-2014 www.theamazingcoconauts.com Group Captain and the Mandrakes 2013 http://www.gcmband.com/ The Surfside IV: 2002-2005, 2008-2009 the Del-Vamps: 1992-1999, 2006-2007 http://www.dblcrown.com/delvamps.html Top
eddiekatcher Joined: Mar 14, 2006 Posts: 2778 Atlanta, GA	Posted on Feb 13 2015 12:08 PM I second that Matt. I can't hear any difference between 6k6's and 6V6's in a reverb tank either. old ears ed — Traditional........speak softly and play through a big blonde amp. Did I mention that I still like big blonde amps? Top

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