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FRV-1 vs. Flint vs. Fender Tank vs. Surfy Bear vs. G-Spring
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Joined: Mar 05, 2010 Posts: 362 Mauna Lani, HI 
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Posted on Jan 18 2015 06:32 PM
I've never played any of these...my uneducated guesses: A.Flint I liked the high-definition sound of A for a more modern sound and C for the most traditional sound. B was the only one I thought I couldn't work with. — |
Joined: Jun 21, 2012 Posts: 78 Garda Lake 
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Posted on Jan 19 2015 02:57 AM
A and D are my fav! —elSentenza Watang! Mandarine Surfers |
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Posted on Jan 19 2015 09:05 AM
A1, B1, C1, D1, E1, A2, B2, C2 please! Can't wait... |
Joined: Jan 04, 2011 Posts: 1588 Berlin L-Berg 
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Posted on Jan 19 2015 10:23 AM
Well, well, well. I thought it was quite interesting to see the opinions. The Flint really got bashed and some guys obviously do like the FRV-1. Anyway, I've said it before: this is not recorded in a band situation. My personal favorite was the Surfy Bear. Live I would always prefer the G-Spring over anything else. This thing sounds stellar! Enough braggin', here's the result. Hope you enjoyed it as much as I did. Edit: The intro part has been played with the G-Spring, of course! —Last edited: Jan 19, 2015 10:31:09 |
Joined: Dec 11, 2013 Posts: 2533 Akron, Ohio
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Posted on Jan 19 2015 10:34 AM
Hot damn I was right! —The Kahuna Kings https://www.facebook.com/pages/The-Kahuna-Kings/459752090818447 |
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Joined: Dec 11, 2013 Posts: 2533 Akron, Ohio
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Posted on Jan 19 2015 10:36 AM
Invaluable work Sancho! that was a great contribution to surf! —The Kahuna Kings https://www.facebook.com/pages/The-Kahuna-Kings/459752090818447 |
Joined: Mar 02, 2006 Posts: 11050 Berkeley, CA
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Posted on Jan 19 2015 10:40 AM
Great job! This topic should get a sticky. —Danny Snyder Playing keys and guitar with Combo Tezeta Formerly a guitarist in The TomorrowMen and Meshugga Beach Party Latest surf project - Now That's What I Call SURF |
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Joined: Dec 11, 2013 Posts: 2533 Akron, Ohio
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Posted on Jan 19 2015 10:48 AM
I better order another Surfy Bear board for the hell of it before Bjourn sells the patent! —The Kahuna Kings https://www.facebook.com/pages/The-Kahuna-Kings/459752090818447 |
Joined: Feb 26, 2008 Posts: 540 Copenhagen, Denmark 
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Posted on Jan 19 2015 10:53 AM
Fantastic Sancho :-). But as you've also stated. Different context, settings and all. — |
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Joined: Mar 02, 2006 Posts: 11050 Berkeley, CA
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Posted on Jan 19 2015 10:58 AM
The next step would be to switch the pans amongst the 3 that use them and compare. —Danny Snyder Playing keys and guitar with Combo Tezeta Formerly a guitarist in The TomorrowMen and Meshugga Beach Party Latest surf project - Now That's What I Call SURF |
Joined: Apr 20, 2006 Posts: 2054
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Posted on Jan 19 2015 11:00 AM
Great job SP! I would remind everyone that not only are pans and tone settings something to consider, miniature tube selections (12AT7 and 12AX7's, brand, age, etc.) are also "instrumental" to the drip. The stock G-Spring ALWAYS uses RCA 6K6GT's and JAN 12AT7's by Philips for their precision, timbre and stability. The current state of 12AX7's find the TUNG-SOL the most consistent, reliable and robust performer. They sound really good. Experimenting with different miniatures WILL give you different results. It's also fun to personally tailor your "own" sound in doing that experimentation which requires no biasing, mods, etc. Just something to consider. —Last edited: Jan 19, 2015 11:15:25 |
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Joined: Jan 04, 2011 Posts: 1588 Berlin L-Berg
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Posted on Jan 19 2015 11:09 AM
Thanks for the nice responses guys! I really appreciate it. I wish I could have thrown in some more units, just to have everything covered. Dario is spot on! The tubes have such a big impact on the overall sound and response of the reverb. Shop around and test them. Same goes for pans. Some words to the manufacturers: Last edited: Jan 19, 2015 11:16:58 |
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Posted on Jan 19 2015 11:18 AM
If I could get low-noise, vintage, NOS, RCA 12AT7's and 7025's at great bulk pricing I would be stocking them in the G-Spring (and the Gomez amps) without doubt. —Last edited: Jan 19, 2015 11:21:10 |
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Posted on Jan 19 2015 11:31 AM
ludobag wrote:
then with the result |
Joined: Mar 09, 2014 Posts: 83 The Monadnocks, NH
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Posted on Jan 19 2015 11:44 AM
This was a superb thread. Yes, for the excellent content. Also for its usefulness in allowing to us to listen and think; to consider out own tastes and then compare it to those of the many. I use a Boss FRV-1 and in the end have become very pleased with what it allows me to do. But that came only with much work - experimenting and listening. Here is how I use it... 1) Setting have to change quite a bit when going from one guitar to another, especially if the high frequency output of the guitars differ a great deal. I.e., what is perfect for my Jag is a bit different from what I use with my Dano, and more different from what I use with my Jazzmaster. 2) I have found that I can get what is to me an ideal sound using the pedal, not alone, but along with a gentler, more modern sounding (i.e., less 'boingy') spring reverb, be it the the tank on my `76 Twin Reverb or (even better) with the simulated one attached to the Blackface 2-12 setting on my Line 6 Duoverb. So dwell on the FRV-1 is typically at only "4" and the rest filled in post pre-amp. For me the goal is a slightly more 'boingy' sound than my favorite on the demos -- Unit "A" -- which turned out to be the Fender. Settings are key. Along with out own preferences and tastes. Thanks again! -don —Still rockin' after all these years! Last edited: Jan 19, 2015 11:47:07 |
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Posted on Jan 19 2015 01:05 PM
This test has answered a lot of questions. Thanks a lot Sancho! |
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Joined: Nov 16, 2013 Posts: 4536 Wisconsin
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Posted on Jan 19 2015 01:31 PM
DannySnyder wrote:
Better then 'yet another' sticky perhaps...? When I get done buttoning up my (almost) old Strat I'm going to put a link to it in the Reverb Wiki. Aside from getting EVERYTHING wrong This has been a really neat thing. Wes DISCLAIMER: The above is opinion/suggestion only & should not be used for mission planning/navigation, tweaking of instruments, beverage selection, or wardrobe choices. |
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Joined: Nov 16, 2013 Posts: 4536 Wisconsin
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Posted on Jan 19 2015 01:32 PM
stratdancer wrote:
If Bjorn got an offer for the patent, that's an indication that he shouldn't sell the patent. Wes DISCLAIMER: The above is opinion/suggestion only & should not be used for mission planning/navigation, tweaking of instruments, beverage selection, or wardrobe choices. |
Joined: Jan 04, 2008 Posts: 1275 San Pedro, CA
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Posted on Jan 19 2015 01:36 PM
Excellent thread! Really interesting to hear the differences between the units. While my guesses were close but not quite, the Flint and the FRV-1 did end up at the bottom of the list. Still, they both sounded very good and very usable. SanchoPansen wrote:
Me too, I've played a RI and a Surfy Bear and I was wondering where my weapon of choice (Guyatone tube reverb) might have fallen on the list. Anyway at the end of the day it's the music that matters and I believe that there is something for everyone here. Bill S._______ |
Joined: Dec 03, 2009 Posts: 855 Sandy Eggo
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Posted on Jan 19 2015 01:39 PM
Man that Catalinbread Topanga Reverb was Killer!!! ps//thanks for doing the shootout, I love stuff like this and it confirms that my tube spring tank ears just want to hear 6G15 —http://www.thenocturnebrain.com |
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I didn't bash or get drooly over any of 'em with opinions, but clearly mistook the Flint for the Gomez tank. That actually tells me again that the Flint is quite the pedal, for a pedal.
