FRV-1 vs. Flint vs. Fender Tank vs. Surfy Bear vs. G-Spring

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FRV-1 vs. Flint vs. Fender Tank vs. Surfy Bear vs. G-Spring

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SanchoPansen Joined: Jan 04, 2011 Posts: 1588 Berlin L-Berg	Posted on Jan 18 2015 03:02 AM The settings used: — The Hicadoolas Top
xavi Joined: Nov 04, 2013 Posts: 58 Balearic Islands	Posted on Jan 18 2015 04:34 AM Nice Sancho! Not only the reverb test but also for the ear blind test. Although never tryed the Strymon I would say B is the Boss pedal and D is the Strymon flint. I would say that the Strymon seems to be closer to those which have a real pan, in contrast with the Boss. From those wich I think they have reverb pan, I would choose C and then E. Good job! Top
ludobag Joined: Jun 05, 2010 Posts: 620 at south of	Posted on Jan 18 2015 04:48 AM don't know really who are the them ? but the B is my least favorite for me the E is the Frv1 B Strymon A Gomez C Surfy bear D Ri Last edited: Jan 19, 2015 11:30:53 Top
Fady Joined: Mar 07, 2010 Posts: 2254 North Carolina	Posted on Jan 18 2015 10:23 AM SanchoPansen wrote: The settings used: I'm glad you posted this. I thought the Dwell on the tube units had to be pretty near the top. Tone a lil on the dim side too - interesting. I'll have to take another listen knowing this stuff now. — Fady El Mirage @ ReverbNation Top
LaFleur Joined: May 20, 2009 Posts: 525 Leipzig	Posted on Jan 18 2015 10:47 AM Now I also know why you like the MOD pan, cause you can't really hear the tail that much with this tone setting — http://www.reverbnation.com/bangmustang http://www.facebook.com/bangmustang https://soundcloud.com/bang-mustang Top
JakeDobner Joined: Feb 26, 2006 Posts: 12159 Seattle	Posted on Jan 18 2015 10:51 AM LaFleur wrote: Now I also know why you like the MOD pan, cause you can't really hear the tail that much with this tone setting People have been making a big deal about the 'tail' recently but people tend to swap the pan before trying the settings... Top
wfoguy Joined: Dec 11, 2011 Posts: 2121	Posted on Jan 18 2015 11:00 AM I think the results will tell me that I don't know squat! Top
irv78 Joined: Jun 26, 2009 Posts: 99 Austria	Posted on Jan 18 2015 11:15 AM Boy, that was quite a challenge! Thank you Sancho for all this fantastic work! Here's my guess: A Gomez B Flint C RI D Surfy Bear E Boss FRV-1 Cheers — Top
ElBirkerio Joined: Dec 17, 2012 Posts: 519 Vienna	Posted on Jan 18 2015 12:03 PM Hi! I don't know the Gomez and the Surfy Bear. I would guess that A is the Flint and E is the FRV-1 ... yours wolfi — http://www.surfgrammeln-san.org https://www.facebook.com/BaluUndSurfgrammeln http://greencookierecords.bandcamp.com/album/coming-out-soon-los-chicharrones-del-surf-10 Top
matt Joined: Oct 18, 2010 Posts: 650 Boston, MA	Posted on Jan 18 2015 01:05 PM where's the answer key? — Matt Heaton & the Electric Heaters Boston's Premier Surf/Noir Combo http://www.heatonsurf.com Top
Badger Joined: Nov 16, 2013 Posts: 4536 Wisconsin	Posted on Jan 18 2015 01:26 PM wfoguy wrote: I think the results will tell me that I don't know squat! Oh man I am soooooo trackin' with ya on that part. Uh.... what do we win if we get LUCKY? — Wes SoCal ex-pat with a snow shovel DISCLAIMER: The above is opinion/suggestion only & should not be used for mission planning/navigation, tweaking of instruments, beverage selection, or wardrobe choices. Top
Nokie Joined: Oct 06, 2008 Posts: 550 So Cal	Posted on Jan 18 2015 01:40 PM I compared in immediate succession A1,B1,C1,D1,and E1 and repeated the process for those tracks a few times. They all sound purdy good although B1 wasn't giving much dwell on the melody notes - that may be due to the setting. I preferred the sound of A1 and C1 overall but not by any great measure. -Marty PS - thanks for setting up this excellent blindfold comparison, Kilian! — "Hello Girls!" Last edited: Jan 18, 2015 13:42:59 Top
Duceditor Joined: Mar 09, 2014 Posts: 83 The Monadnocks, NH	Posted on Jan 18 2015 02:02 PM Very interesting. Gotta say that "A" was the one that most appealed to me. How much that depends on 1) its settings and 2) how similar it is to what what experience has tuned my ear to desire I cannot say. Looking forward to hearing what was what! -dom — Still rockin' after all these years! Top
Ariel Joined: Aug 29, 2009 Posts: 1556 Israel	Posted on Jan 18 2015 02:20 PM Badger wrote: wfoguy wrote: I think the results will tell me that I don't know squat! Oh man I am soooooo trackin' with ya on that part. I'm sticking with my 2 cards like a ~~(loser...)~~ man. It's really hard though, pans are so different even from the same manufacturer. Uh.... what do we win if we get LUCKY? A nice, thick STICK! Top
Ariel Joined: Aug 29, 2009 Posts: 1556 Israel	Posted on Jan 18 2015 02:24 PM matt wrote: where's the answer key? Detailed in the 1st post, and by the track names Last edited: Jan 18, 2015 14:26:29 Top
SanchoPansen Joined: Jan 04, 2011 Posts: 1588 Berlin L-Berg	Posted on Jan 18 2015 02:58 PM Thanks for the nice comments, folks! I'm glad you all enjoy this and we can do a little quizzy with reverbs Some of you will be totally stunned by the results! But as I've mentioned already, this comparison does not show the reverbs performance in a band situation. That's something totally different. Personally I do hit my pan with a booster (which I didn't in the recordings) and I don't play a Jag with 12s (prefer the Mosrite/Hallmark sound when playing live). A short comment regarding the setup: I usually play a part on the higher notes, like the 2nd part of 'Ali Baba' or '02' in the recordings. I try to find a balance between ice-picking and drip. Set up the dwell high, to get a good amount of drip, then the mix up to the point where the reverb starts to become '3D' and finally the tone knob against the icepicking up to the 'sweet spot'. If you do it like this and you go back to the lower strings (while keeping those settings) and you still get a nice drip when playing palm muted, you basically have a nicely set up reverb sound, IMO. To be honest, finding the 'best setting' was quite easy on the RI and the G-Spring. The Surfy Bear and Flint were a little harder to tame and the FRV-1 was a nightmare I decided to reveal the result in a video, as soon as I find the time. A quick question: Would you prefer to hear the samples in the video in the order of: A1, B1, C1, D1, E1, A2, B2, C2, etc. or A1, A2, A3, A4, A5, B1, B2, B3, etc.? What do you think would display the differences more precisely? — The Hicadoolas Last edited: Jan 18, 2015 15:11:29 Top
Badger Joined: Nov 16, 2013 Posts: 4536 Wisconsin	Posted on Jan 18 2015 03:40 PM DreadInBabylon wrote: A nice, thick STICK! "Ain't nuthin' like a good piece o' hickory." — Wes SoCal ex-pat with a snow shovel DISCLAIMER: The above is opinion/suggestion only & should not be used for mission planning/navigation, tweaking of instruments, beverage selection, or wardrobe choices. Top
Badger Joined: Nov 16, 2013 Posts: 4536 Wisconsin	Posted on Jan 18 2015 03:42 PM SanchoPansen wrote: I decided to reveal the result in a video, as soon as I find the time. A quick question: Would you prefer to hear the samples in the video in the order of: A1, B1, C1, D1, E1, A2, B2, C2, etc. or A1, A2, A3, A4, A5, B1, B2, B3, etc.? What do you think would display the differences more precisely? The first option, I think, would let folks isolate the difference easier than bouncing back & forth. Great quiz; much fun. — Wes SoCal ex-pat with a snow shovel DISCLAIMER: The above is opinion/suggestion only & should not be used for mission planning/navigation, tweaking of instruments, beverage selection, or wardrobe choices. Top
LaFleur Joined: May 20, 2009 Posts: 525 Leipzig	Posted on Jan 18 2015 04:08 PM Yes the first option is good! — http://www.reverbnation.com/bangmustang http://www.facebook.com/bangmustang https://soundcloud.com/bang-mustang Top
SanchoPansen Joined: Jan 04, 2011 Posts: 1588 Berlin L-Berg	Posted on Jan 18 2015 05:33 PM Started making a video. Need to take some pics of all the units, otherwise it will be a very boring video to watch Stay tuned. After all this testing and comparing, all I can say when I hear a dry guitar is: image — The Hicadoolas Top

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