JONPAUL
Joined: Apr 29, 2010
Posts: 2468
Venice, CA
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Posted on Dec 13 2014 01:36 PM
PolloGuitar wrote:
spskins wrote:
My favorite thing in the world. Absolutely love it.
What Ted said. I love everything about recording.
What Ted and Ferenc said. Almost nothing I'd rather spend time doing.
— Insect Surfers
The Tikiyaki Orchestra
The Scimitars
Lords Of Atlantis
Fiberglass Jungle - Surf Radio
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WoodyJ
Joined: Apr 05, 2006
Posts: 1544
Bethlehem, GA
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Posted on Dec 13 2014 02:16 PM
My playing also suffers somewhat when I am wearing the "musician" and "engineer" hats simultaneously. It is a challenge to play with the emotion/passion that I know I am capable of, when half my brain is focused on recording.
But, with that said, I do enjoy the recording process, especially mixing and mastering. Even though my home studio remains Old School in some respects, I've significantly upgraded it in the past year and look forward to recording and releasing a quality (HulaHounds) project in 2015.
I've learned quite a bit the past several months on how to improve my recording, mixing and mastering techniques from a friend who operates a "real" pro studio. I have been fortunate to record some bass tracks for a another friend's album project there and it has been a lot of fun...no buttons to push, just 100% focus on the music.
— Jack Booth
(aka WoodyJ)
The Mariners (1964-68, 1996-2005)
The Hula Hounds (1996-current)
The X-Rays (1997-2004)
The Surge! (2004, 2011-2012)
Various non-surf bands that actually made money (1978-1990)
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eddiekatcher
Joined: Mar 14, 2006
Posts: 2774
Atlanta, GA
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Posted on Dec 13 2014 03:41 PM
Not me. That's still my story and I am sticking with it.
ed
— Traditional........speak softly and play through a big blonde amp. Did I mention that I still like big blonde amps?
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Noel
Joined: Mar 15, 2011
Posts: 8528
Back in Piitsburgh, Pennsylvania, where I grew up.
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Posted on Dec 13 2014 03:49 PM
What did I get myself into?
— This is Noel. Reverb's at maximum an' I'm givin' 'er all she's got.
Last edited: Dec 13, 2014 15:49:52
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PrestonRice
Joined: Oct 05, 2012
Posts: 1725
Austin, Texas
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Posted on Dec 13 2014 03:51 PM
JONPAUL wrote:
PolloGuitar wrote:
spskins wrote:
My favorite thing in the world. Absolutely love it.
What Ted said. I love everything about recording.
What Ted and Ferenc said. Almost nothing I'd rather spend time doing.
This.
— IMO.
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Badger
Joined: Nov 16, 2013
Posts: 4536
Wisconsin
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Posted on Dec 13 2014 04:38 PM
Listening to some things later and (having progressed) thinking:
"AHHHH!"
When a musician or group goes back in & re-does/re-masters something everyone else thought was "very nice" - I totally get that now.
The result is satisfying but sometimes the courtship is rocky.
— Wes
SoCal ex-pat with a snow shovel
DISCLAIMER: The above is opinion/suggestion only & should not be used for mission planning/navigation, tweaking of instruments, beverage selection, or wardrobe choices.
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MantisRex_
Joined: Oct 22, 2014
Posts: 38
Eastern Seaboard
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Posted on Dec 14 2014 03:53 PM
It depends. Sometimes I scrutinze the shit out of my own playing and hate everything that comes out. A lot of the times thats just straight up insecurity, though. I find it's best to not overthink it, but also don't underthink it. The idea is to care a lot but not drive yourself in sane. It's nearly impossible to match whats in your head with what comes on tape so it's best to get as close as possible.
One thing I do love though is layering and experimenting with weird effects. I love love love that aspect of recording.
— https://soundcloud.com/mantisrex
Youtube
Download my rock cover of Diamond Head
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eddiekatcher
Joined: Mar 14, 2006
Posts: 2774
Atlanta, GA
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Posted on Dec 14 2014 06:17 PM
I sure am glad that I am not alone here..........
Well, except for Pollo and SPskins and a few other exceptional people not from this planet.
Ed
— Traditional........speak softly and play through a big blonde amp. Did I mention that I still like big blonde amps?
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Big_Ryan
Joined: May 01, 2011
Posts: 578
San Diego
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Posted on Dec 15 2014 12:42 AM
i hate recording, id much much much rather be on a stage than in a studio
— http://dinosaurghost.bandcamp.com/
http://sixtycyclehum.podbean.com
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da-ron
Joined: Jan 02, 2009
Posts: 1305
The original Plymouth, UK.
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Posted on Dec 15 2014 06:03 AM
I'm not a big fan of recording in the studio. I kind of like the idea, but the reality can be a tedious energy sapping experience. And it has to be perfect - you can't listen to a mistake and ignore it on a recording.
I'm always amazed how bands can create songs and whole albums in a studio. I always have a 'time is money' clock going that makes me rush everything. I think recording with a producer would make it easier - having someone tell you what's good and what's not. Doing it all yourself is hard.
Nice to see people here have a similar opinion and experience as me!
Lately I've been recording at home on a Mac and Garageband. I think the results are pretty good (compared to my 4 track tape machine!) but would it be good enough for a CD? I've been considering putting them out as MP3 downloads though...
— http://thewaterboarders.bandcamp.com/
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stratdancer
Joined: Dec 11, 2013
Posts: 2533
Akron, Ohio
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Posted on Dec 15 2014 06:32 AM
When it comes to perfect hi-fidelity I wonder if in some way the way people listen to music now has changed the way you can present music. It used to be you bought an album and you cued it up on a large stereo and sat in a room and listened to it. Now it seems much of the music is being played on earbuds or a computer.
I have found over the years that most of my listening takes place on my 15 year old Altec computer system with the little subwooofer. I look for new music online anymore and have spent much of the last years listening to vintage surf and retro which much of the fidelity is much different than lets say listening to the Roger Waters album Amused to Death on an audiophile class system in your living room.
So I believe that a good song is as important as ever and getting pleasant sounds is just as important but chasing perfect fidelity may not be as important if most of the music is being played on computer speakers or earbuds. Just a thought.
— The Kahuna Kings
https://www.facebook.com/pages/The-Kahuna-Kings/459752090818447
https://thekahunakings.bandcamp.com/releases
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Badger
Joined: Nov 16, 2013
Posts: 4536
Wisconsin
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Posted on Dec 15 2014 06:40 AM
stratdancer wrote:
Now it seems much of the music is being played on earbuds or a computer.
Interesting point, along with car audio. Funny thing is, the older I get, the more I'd like to replace the capability I had back when top-notch audiophile gear was cheap during my military career. I may have to rebuild that capability with the replacement of tape with CD player. Long-term enjoyment as good or better than many instrument/amp-related acquisitions. I think the smaller systems don't convey some Showman's output transformer shaking the walls, but I could just be deaf.
— Wes
SoCal ex-pat with a snow shovel
DISCLAIMER: The above is opinion/suggestion only & should not be used for mission planning/navigation, tweaking of instruments, beverage selection, or wardrobe choices.
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stratdancer
Joined: Dec 11, 2013
Posts: 2533
Akron, Ohio
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Posted on Dec 15 2014 06:48 AM
You are right Badge. One of the great pleasures of listening to good music on a great system is when the sound waves hit your chest. Earbuds don't do that.
— The Kahuna Kings
https://www.facebook.com/pages/The-Kahuna-Kings/459752090818447
https://thekahunakings.bandcamp.com/releases
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da-ron
Joined: Jan 02, 2009
Posts: 1305
The original Plymouth, UK.
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Posted on Dec 15 2014 06:52 AM
stratdancer wrote:
You are right Badge. One of the great pleasures of listening to good music on a great system is when the sound waves hit your chest. Earbuds don't do that.
That's what live music is for!
— http://thewaterboarders.bandcamp.com/
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stratdancer
Joined: Dec 11, 2013
Posts: 2533
Akron, Ohio
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Posted on Dec 15 2014 06:54 AM
I have a buddy that builds Trainwreck clone tube amps. He built a real nice stereo tube amp like my parents had back in the 60's. It has such a nice warm vintage sound. That would be perfect for listening to surf.....hmmmm.
— The Kahuna Kings
https://www.facebook.com/pages/The-Kahuna-Kings/459752090818447
https://thekahunakings.bandcamp.com/releases
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stratdancer
Joined: Dec 11, 2013
Posts: 2533
Akron, Ohio
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Posted on Dec 15 2014 07:10 AM
da-ron wrote:
That's what live music is for!
Gets your heart beating and if it's good, a rush of adrenalin.
— The Kahuna Kings
https://www.facebook.com/pages/The-Kahuna-Kings/459752090818447
https://thekahunakings.bandcamp.com/releases
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Syndicateofsurf
Joined: Oct 08, 2014
Posts: 1073
Northern Ohio
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Posted on Dec 15 2014 07:17 AM
The only thing worse than recording is playing live.
— Da Vinci Flinglestein,
The quest for the Tone, the tone of the Quest
The Syndicate of Surf on YouTube
http://www.syndicateofsurf.com/
http://sharawaji.com/
http://surfrockradio.com/
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SURFmole
Joined: Nov 22, 2007
Posts: 901
Portland, OR
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Posted on Dec 15 2014 07:45 AM
da-ron wrote:
I'm not a big fan of recording in the studio. I kind of like the idea, but the reality can be a tedious energy sapping experience. And it has to be perfect - you can't listen to a mistake and ignore it on a recording.
I could prove you wrong on that one...I CAN (listen to a mistake and ignore it)!! ha ha!
I'm always amazed how bands can create songs and whole albums in a studio. I always have a 'time is money' clock going that makes me rush everything. I think recording with a producer would make it easier - having someone tell you what's good and what's not. Doing it all yourself is hard.
Our recording is DIY, so it doesn't cost money; just time. We all have day jobs, families, etc., so time is the main stress factor. When we book a day to record and have all the gear set up, we NEED to get our tunes recorded. We knocked out eight songs in a day (including a lunch break and setting up and breaking down) last time we recorded. I'm not sure I'd want to attempt that many songs on the same day again.
We are required to be our own producer, which I think actually works out pretty well since we are all our own worst critics, and we know our own limitations and abilities better than anyone else (including an outside producer). If any of us think we messed up and can do better the next take, we record the song again. Fortunately, virtual tape costs nothing and hard drive space is plentiful, so there is no need to erase a previous "take" before we do another.
Nice to see people here have a similar opinion and experience as me!
Lately I've been recording at home on a Mac and Garageband. I think the results are pretty good (compared to my 4 track tape machine!) but would it be good enough for a CD? I've been considering putting them out as MP3 downloads though...
My opinion is that if you have a good computer interface, decent mic preamp, and a reasonably good quality mic, it's easy to get professional results recording guitar and bass. Drums are a little bit more difficult and require more gear.
— www.apollo4.com
Last edited: Dec 15, 2014 07:47:23
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da-ron
Joined: Jan 02, 2009
Posts: 1305
The original Plymouth, UK.
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Posted on Dec 22 2014 03:42 AM
The studio I've used in the past have been really helpful - the sound guy recording us would offer tips on each take: "I think that chord change was a little late" or "I think you can do that a bit better, we can keep that last take and give it another go if you want?". I found that really helpful compared with another studio we used.
Seriously thinking of using Logic X and it's drummer for future work. Sounds good to my punk rock damaged ears
— http://thewaterboarders.bandcamp.com/
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surfgtrnut
Joined: Dec 26, 2008
Posts: 122
Binghamton, NY
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Posted on Dec 22 2014 07:45 AM
I love playing live, but recording is
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