revmike
Joined: Feb 26, 2006
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North Atlantic
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Posted on Oct 08 2014 10:27 AM
Several years ago the NYC garage surf band the Recruders released 2 CDs recorded on a cassette four track. I always loved the sound of those CDs.
Back in the mid-late 90s some most of our recordings were done on a Yamaha 4 track. One mic on guitar, one on bass, one on drums. The 4th channel didn't work. We released our first 2 recordings using this (they were released on cassette).
If the performance & sound is good, it doesn't matter to me what it is recorded on. We are going to start recording again. Maybe I'll bring out the old casette deck.
Rev
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SURFmole
Joined: Nov 22, 2007
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Portland, OR
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Posted on Oct 13 2014 04:25 AM
revhank wrote:
If the performance & sound is good, it doesn't matter to me what it is recorded on. We are going to start recording again. Maybe I'll bring out the old casette deck.
Rev
Absolutely!! To me "Retro Recording" has more to do with the technique and production than the format (tape or digital) though. If cassette tape is what inspires you to deliver a great performance and it gives you the sound you want, go for it!
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togergo
Joined: Jan 23, 2012
Posts: 282
Budapest
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Posted on Nov 13 2014 08:10 AM
Hi, I've got a chance to buy this tascam,
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and I'm really 'off' in this topic  do you have any advices, what/how try, etc.
Thank you!
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stratdancer
Joined: Dec 11, 2013
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Akron, Ohio
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Posted on Nov 13 2014 08:59 AM
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Surfzombie
Joined: Apr 20, 2012
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Cedar Rapids, IA
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Posted on Nov 13 2014 09:01 AM
I had so much fun in my 4 track years! Hopefully this thing still works. You might need to have it serviced. Are you tracking a full band or going to be layering in parts? I had a lot of good luck with SM57 mics but try what you have and see what you can do. I like the Sennheiser 421 for recording guitar cabs even more. I can never keep up with my own expectations. I have many cds released, but still feel like I am slacking! Let me know what you come up with. I might know a couple of places that can help you maintain a vintage tape machine if you run into problems.
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togergo
Joined: Jan 23, 2012
Posts: 282
Budapest
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Posted on Nov 13 2014 09:01 AM
120-40$ (negoitiable)
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togergo
Joined: Jan 23, 2012
Posts: 282
Budapest
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Posted on Nov 13 2014 09:12 AM
for the first time, I just want to use at home, record ideas, later maybe band, or use it as an instrument/sampler.
The owner bought it years ago, and he never used.
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stratdancer
Joined: Dec 11, 2013
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Akron, Ohio
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Posted on Nov 13 2014 09:22 AM
100.00 at the most. I saturated every molecule of space bouncing tracks with mine in the day. Good analog signal. Clean and demagnitiize the tape head.
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togergo
Joined: Jan 23, 2012
Posts: 282
Budapest
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Posted on Nov 13 2014 09:28 AM
How hard to find a new part, if something dies inside?
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CrazyAces
Joined: Jul 31, 2012
Posts: 4052
Nashville, TN.
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Posted on Nov 13 2014 10:18 AM
I busted out my Tascam 246 a few years ago to digitize some old recordings for friends and for laughs.
The drive belts on mine had turned to goo, nasty gummy......
I got online and found new belts in five minutes. The belts arrived a few days later, installed them and it works great so I think you can find parts but it may be dependent on the model. As time went on Tascam made those units less and less serviceable.
I agree, price wise you shouldn't have to pay more than $100 for one of those.
You can make some great music on one of those machines though..........
As always - good source sounds, try to pre-mix while recording; not too much low end on guitars to leave room for the bass.........things like that.
I was surprised at the sound quality after not hearing mine in years
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togergo
Joined: Jan 23, 2012
Posts: 282
Budapest
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Posted on Nov 13 2014 10:43 AM
Thank you the answers, there's an other option, same price
http://gsfanatic.com/hu/hirdetes/243682/-kazettas-studiomagno-
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JakeDobner
Joined: Feb 26, 2006
Posts: 12159
Seattle
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Posted on Nov 13 2014 10:52 AM
Seems like they are asking a lot of money: eBay's sold listings: http://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_sop=15&_from=R40&_sacat=0&_nkw=tascam+portastudio+424&LH_Complete=1&LH_Sold=1&rt=nc
I love the immediacy of tape 4-tracks for putting down ideas, but if you own a computer... put that money into an audio interface and download a free/trial/demo DAW. Using a DAW will be a very useful tool into your future.
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CrazyAces
Joined: Jul 31, 2012
Posts: 4052
Nashville, TN.
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Posted on Nov 13 2014 10:57 AM
JakeDobner wrote:
Seems like they are asking a lot of money: eBay's sold listings: http://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_sop=15&_from=R40&_sacat=0&_nkw=tascam+portastudio+424&LH_Complete=1&LH_Sold=1&rt=nc
I love the immediacy of tape 4-tracks for putting down ideas, but if you own a computer... put that money into an audio interface and download a free/trial/demo DAW. Using a DAW will be a very useful tool into your future.
I came kicking and screaming (reluctance) into the digital/computer recording realm but I kind of have to agree with Jake.
Yu can get a pretty nice interface for $150.00 to start and many come with some sort of DAW software. By doing this you'll have many, more easy options to share or expand your music.
It was the immediacy of analog four track recording in relation to writing that made me so reluctant for years.
Now I'm happy I made the switch and I work just as quickly if not quicker in the digital realm
Cheers,
Jeff
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JakeDobner
Joined: Feb 26, 2006
Posts: 12159
Seattle
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Posted on Nov 13 2014 11:31 AM
Yeah, it took me a while to nail the immediacy. It is actually faster for me now digitally. My Audio Interface is always hooked up and my DAW is always open and set ready to record. I just have to plug in and I'm ready to go.
I also use it in lieu of an amp. Or you can as easily do this with a Mic.
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Surfzombie
Joined: Apr 20, 2012
Posts: 38
Cedar Rapids, IA
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Posted on Nov 13 2014 12:56 PM
Some day I will probably be forced to relearn digital recording. It will rock.
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vintagesurfdude
Joined: Nov 28, 2011
Posts: 795
Prescott Valley, AZ
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Posted on Nov 13 2014 10:50 PM
You know you don't have to give up one for the other (analog for digital recording or vise versa) I no longer have it but I used to track drums and a scratch track on a Tascam 38 1/2" 8 track reel to reel, and then port those into Cubase and track the other instruments and vocals into the digital environment. You can also use your tape deck to pre amp your digital I/O. There are NO rules !! 
For example, an engineer told me once that there are no bad microphones, someday you may want to record the sound of a mic being flushed down a drain......
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togergo
Joined: Jan 23, 2012
Posts: 282
Budapest
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Posted on Nov 17 2014 06:42 AM
Hi, I've found an expert, here who has some saleable machine: a working tascam 424 50-60$, and a 244 after a restoration, new strap and some parts, cleaned electric parts inside 120$.
Friendlier prices
I'm a softwer developer, and recording digital since 1999-2000, so I just want one of these, that's all Thanks for the comments.
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CrazyAces
Joined: Jul 31, 2012
Posts: 4052
Nashville, TN.
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Posted on Nov 17 2014 09:09 AM
Those 244's are sturdy old machines.
One piece of advice I'd suggest is to try to get a machine that operates at high speed 3-3/4 (9.5cm/sec , not standard 1-7/8 (4.8cm/sec)
Some of the older machines like the 246 can run at either speed which can be handy but the high speed will sound better and you'll get more of the benefits of analog tape.
Cheers,
Jeff
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CrazyAces
Joined: Jul 31, 2012
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Nashville, TN.
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Posted on Nov 17 2014 09:15 AM
Here's my old 246.
After replacing the belts a few years ago it still works and sounds great.
We use the Etch A Sketch as a tracking sheet.
O.K., not really
Cheers,
Jeff
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CrazyAces
Joined: Jul 31, 2012
Posts: 4052
Nashville, TN.
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Posted on Nov 17 2014 09:16 AM
CrazyAces wrote:
Here's my old 246.
After replacing the belts a few years ago it still works and sounds great.
We use the Etch A Sketch as a tracking sheet.
O.K., not really
Cheers,
Jeff
— http://www.facebook.com/CrazyAcesMusic
http://www.youtube.com/user/crazyacesrock
http://www.reverbnation.com/crazyacesmusic
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