surf on a Fender DeVille?

horax

Joined: Mar 23, 2011
Posts: 518
colorado springs
United States

Posted on Oct 27 2014 10:32 AM

Anybody tried this?

I might be picking one up, but am not certain it will give the right sound.
Thought I'd check here.

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JakeDobner

Joined: Feb 26, 2006
Posts: 12159
Seattle
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Posted on Oct 27 2014 11:06 AM

It absolutely works.

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remora1

Joined: Jan 04, 2008
Posts: 1278
San Pedro, CA
United States

Posted on Oct 27 2014 11:31 AM

Currently my main amp is a Hot Rod DeVille 410. With a few simple mods and a tube swap they can sound pretty good. There's some helpful tips HERE. I also found some really good info online from a guy named Justin Holton but it seems it has since disappeared. Luckily I downloaded and saved everything for reference. Perhaps I could upload them to the Miscellaneous section of the Downloads here at SG101 if anyone is interested. I'll say that toning down the preamp section and replacing the crappy Groove Tube 6L6B's with a pair of Tung Sol 7581's made a world of difference.
AND, until recently Paul Johnson himself was using a Deville 212 for his live gigs, although he certainly can make anything sound awesome .

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Bill S._______

Last edited: Oct 27, 2014 12:03:56

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dboomer

Joined: Jan 05, 2009
Posts: 262
Port Hueneme, CA
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Posted on Oct 27 2014 12:55 PM

Did that amp come stock with 6L6Bs (not 6L6GC)? If it came with 6L6GCs then "B" should have not been substituted as they are rated for lower wattage and voltage handling and might actually burn up in a circuit meant for GC'c

7581s OTOH are rated for a slight bit higher wattage and voltage and would offer a bit more headroom (less distortion) but only a little. It's like putting hire MPH rated tires on your car and then not driving any faster to take advantage of it.

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remora1

Joined: Jan 04, 2008
Posts: 1278
San Pedro, CA
United States

Posted on Oct 27 2014 01:08 PM

I picked it up used at a local music shop and it had 6L6B's in it when I got it. I don't know if it came from the factory that way. I'd heard good things about 7581's so I thought I'd give 'em a try. It might be only a little bit more clean headroom but every little bit counts, right? True, a good pair of 6L6GC's would probably sound the same (or maybe better?) but I'm happy with the result.

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Bill S._______

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stratdancer

Joined: Dec 11, 2013
Posts: 2537
Akron, Ohio
United States

Posted on Oct 27 2014 04:46 PM

I played a HR Deville for a while and they can definitely surf. The reverb kinda sucks on them but you can always order a surfy bear fetverb kit and you will be set.

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Rob_J

Joined: Sep 29, 2007
Posts: 500
Sacto, CA
United States

Posted on Oct 27 2014 06:04 PM

I gigged with a Hot Rod DeVille 4/10 for two or three years. With a Fender RI tank it was very surfy! The only reason I don't still have it is because it got to be too heavy to lug around. Sounded really GREAT though.

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Draygore

Joined: Mar 07, 2014
Posts: 89
Reading, England
United Kingdom

Posted on Oct 28 2014 07:14 AM

On a kind of related note, has anyone surfed on a Fender Blues Deluxe? I'm thinking of getting either a Blues Deluxe or a Hot Rod (112), unfortunately my local guitar stores don't have either so I've no way of comparing before buying one 2nd hand. I just don't want to end up sounding like SRV (not that that is likely with my playing ability).

Thanks.

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OzReverb

Joined: Apr 28, 2009
Posts: 460
Victoria
Australia

Posted on Oct 31 2014 06:22 AM

remora1 wrote:

AND, until recently Paul Johnson himself was using a Deville 212 for his live gigs, although he certainly can make anything sound awesome .

I own that very amp and it sounds pretty darn good (much better in Paul's hands of course)!

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https://www.facebook.com/lostremoleros/

Last edited: Oct 31, 2014 06:24:24

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horax Joined: Mar 23, 2011 Posts: 518 colorado springs	Posted on Oct 27 2014 10:32 AM Anybody tried this? I might be picking one up, but am not certain it will give the right sound. Thought I'd check here. Top
JakeDobner Joined: Feb 26, 2006 Posts: 12159 Seattle	Posted on Oct 27 2014 11:06 AM It absolutely works. Top
remora1 Joined: Jan 04, 2008 Posts: 1278 San Pedro, CA	Posted on Oct 27 2014 11:31 AM Currently my main amp is a Hot Rod DeVille 410. With a few simple mods and a tube swap they can sound pretty good. There's some helpful tips HERE. I also found some really good info online from a guy named Justin Holton but it seems it has since disappeared. Luckily I downloaded and saved everything for reference. Perhaps I could upload them to the Miscellaneous section of the Downloads here at SG101 if anyone is interested. I'll say that toning down the preamp section and replacing the crappy Groove Tube 6L6B's with a pair of Tung Sol 7581's made a world of difference. AND, until recently Paul Johnson himself was using a Deville 212 for his live gigs, although he certainly can make anything sound awesome . — Bill S._______ Last edited: Oct 27, 2014 12:03:56 Top
dboomer Joined: Jan 05, 2009 Posts: 262 Port Hueneme, CA	Posted on Oct 27 2014 12:55 PM Did that amp come stock with 6L6Bs (not 6L6GC)? If it came with 6L6GCs then "B" should have not been substituted as they are rated for lower wattage and voltage handling and might actually burn up in a circuit meant for GC'c 7581s OTOH are rated for a slight bit higher wattage and voltage and would offer a bit more headroom (less distortion) but only a little. It's like putting hire MPH rated tires on your car and then not driving any faster to take advantage of it. Top
remora1 Joined: Jan 04, 2008 Posts: 1278 San Pedro, CA	Posted on Oct 27 2014 01:08 PM I picked it up used at a local music shop and it had 6L6B's in it when I got it. I don't know if it came from the factory that way. I'd heard good things about 7581's so I thought I'd give 'em a try. It might be only a little bit more clean headroom but every little bit counts, right? True, a good pair of 6L6GC's would probably sound the same (or maybe better?) but I'm happy with the result. — Bill S._______ Top
stratdancer Joined: Dec 11, 2013 Posts: 2537 Akron, Ohio	Posted on Oct 27 2014 04:46 PM I played a HR Deville for a while and they can definitely surf. The reverb kinda sucks on them but you can always order a surfy bear fetverb kit and you will be set. — The Kahuna Kings https://www.facebook.com/pages/The-Kahuna-Kings/459752090818447 https://thekahunakings.bandcamp.com/releases Top
Rob_J Joined: Sep 29, 2007 Posts: 500 Sacto, CA	Posted on Oct 27 2014 06:04 PM I gigged with a Hot Rod DeVille 4/10 for two or three years. With a Fender RI tank it was very surfy! The only reason I don't still have it is because it got to be too heavy to lug around. Sounded really GREAT though. Top
Draygore Joined: Mar 07, 2014 Posts: 89 Reading, England	Posted on Oct 28 2014 07:14 AM On a kind of related note, has anyone surfed on a Fender Blues Deluxe? I'm thinking of getting either a Blues Deluxe or a Hot Rod (112), unfortunately my local guitar stores don't have either so I've no way of comparing before buying one 2nd hand. I just don't want to end up sounding like SRV (not that that is likely with my playing ability). Thanks. Top
OzReverb Joined: Apr 28, 2009 Posts: 460 Victoria	Posted on Oct 31 2014 06:22 AM remora1 wrote: AND, until recently Paul Johnson himself was using a Deville 212 for his live gigs, although he certainly can make anything sound awesome . I own that very amp and it sounds pretty darn good (much better in Paul's hands of course)! — https://www.facebook.com/lostremoleros/ Last edited: Oct 31, 2014 06:24:24 Top

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