montecarlo71
Joined: Feb 09, 2014
Posts: 26
Eugene, Oregon
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Posted on Jul 20 2014 04:03 PM
I have a 1965 stand alone reverb. A few weeks ago my band played on a stage that had a little bounce to it. My reverb unit would make crashing sounds every so often due to the poor stage. Is there any solution to avoid this happening again. I know, don't play on a poor stage. I did see a youtube where sorbothane hemispheres were used. They appeared to be small round spheres. Anyone have experience with these?
Thanks for any help.
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bigtikidude
Joined: Feb 27, 2006
Posts: 25685
Anaheim(So.Cal.)U.S.A.
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Posted on Jul 20 2014 06:07 PM
This should be in surf musician or gear area.
Try setting on something off the stage.
Stringing it up to something overhead like Dick Dale does.
Or the lava rats walker n bungie cord trick.
— Jeff(bigtikidude)
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DannySnyder
Joined: Mar 02, 2006
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Berkeley, CA
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Posted on Jul 20 2014 06:42 PM
Here's a thread…. http://surfguitar101.com/forums/post/318503/
— Danny Snyder
"With great reverb comes great responsibility" - Uncle Leo
I am now playing trumpet with Prince Buster tribute band 'Balzac'
Playing keys and guitar with Combo Tezeta
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montecarlo71
Joined: Feb 09, 2014
Posts: 26
Eugene, Oregon
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Posted on Jul 20 2014 06:59 PM
Thanks for the help. Hey Danny, just happens that I saw that YouTube video today and just finished ordering a 4 pack. Should be here by end of week. Have a gig this Saturday night so will have a chance to try things out. Will let you know if it really works like Dave says is does.
Thank again to all
Dick
aka "Agent Reverb"
Men From S.U.R.F.
www.menfromsurf.com
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JakeDobner
Joined: Feb 26, 2006
Posts: 12159
Seattle
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Posted on Jul 20 2014 10:20 PM
You can also put the unit closer to the amp(directly against), this is my general solution.
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LeeVanCleef
Joined: Oct 05, 2011
Posts: 744
France
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Posted on Jul 21 2014 11:46 AM
There's always the Dick Dale way (aka hang'em high )

— Old punks never die... They just become surf rockers.
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Hammond101
Joined: Feb 22, 2013
Posts: 342
SoCal USA
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Posted on Jul 21 2014 03:17 PM
I put some surgical tubing as dampers on my mounting springs and no longer have issues unless the stage is extremely poor. It really controls bounce well.
— Keep it Drippy Brothers and Sisters!
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JObeast
Joined: Jul 24, 2012
Posts: 2762
Finknabad, Squinkistan
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Posted on Jul 21 2014 03:24 PM
Whose granny tied that knot? A simple bowline would suffice.
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montecarlo71
Joined: Feb 09, 2014
Posts: 26
Eugene, Oregon
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Posted on Jul 21 2014 04:58 PM
Some good suggestions. Thanks to all the SG101 members that have replied. My band did get a kick out of using a walker to suspend the reverb unit. I also told the guys that at our age using the walker might end up doing a double duty.
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Hammond101
Joined: Feb 22, 2013
Posts: 342
SoCal USA
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Posted on Jul 22 2014 12:02 PM
JObeast wrote:
Whose granny tied that knot? A simple bowline would suffice.
I did this once or twice and used a hangman's knot. I got a lot of comments on that!
— Keep it Drippy Brothers and Sisters!
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killbabykill34
Joined: Apr 03, 2010
Posts: 3201
Jacksonville, AL
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Posted on Jul 22 2014 12:13 PM
I have, on more than one occasion, placed my tank off the stage to avoid this issue.
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JakeDobner
Joined: Feb 26, 2006
Posts: 12159
Seattle
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Posted on Jul 22 2014 12:18 PM
Ah... you innocent souls.
"Oh no, I have a bad stage spot that sometimes triggers my tank crashing" Boohoo! Somebody call a whambulance.
Try having asshole bandmates who thinks it is funny when your tank crashes! That is what I have to deal with every now and then. A waterbottle lobbed across stage in hopes of hitting the reverb unit...
Obviously, when a tank crashes it kind of destroys the sound you had coming from your guitar, so the part of 'Verb songs where we have actual crashes, nobody wants to ruin their tone, so we all try to get each other's tanks... Annoying!
Oh memories...
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Hammond101
Joined: Feb 22, 2013
Posts: 342
SoCal USA
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Posted on Jul 22 2014 03:26 PM
"Annoying!
Oh memories..."
+1
I used to grab the drummers crash and choke it when he was going for a nice big long wang of a crash. Being a drummer too I knew when this would be the most annoying.
— Keep it Drippy Brothers and Sisters!
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JakeDobner
Joined: Feb 26, 2006
Posts: 12159
Seattle
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Posted on Jul 22 2014 04:29 PM
I use to smack crash cymbals as well! Your finger knuckles do a good job of hitting them!
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tubeswell
Joined: Sep 24, 2011
Posts: 1424
Wellington, NZ
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Posted on Jul 23 2014 07:56 PM
Sometimes I just leave it on the stage and get random crashes throughout the whole gig. Other times I put it just off the front of the stage next to the dance floor area (if the stage is low enough and if my cables are long enough) where random drunk people can trip over it.
— He who dies with the most tubes... wins
Surf Daddies
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montecarlo71
Joined: Feb 09, 2014
Posts: 26
Eugene, Oregon
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Posted on Aug 19 2014 01:17 PM
Thanks guys for all your input. Here is what I finally ended up doing. Total cost for an old walker was $3.50 on half price day at an estate sale, $2.50 for bungee chords and $5.95 for a can of black spray paint. Hacksawed all four legs and hit the remaining frame with the spray paint. After a reasonable amount of shaking, pushing and stomping no more crash. Here are the before and after photos.


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SlacktoneDave
Joined: Jul 01, 2006
Posts: 657
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Posted on Aug 19 2014 01:38 PM
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=IOuD58MN5sQ
When I used to mess with bungi cords, I found that they needed to be a certain length to be effective. If they are too short, like the picture, they cannot dissipate the vibration energy.
Use sorbathane. Get it on amazon.
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crumble
Joined: Sep 09, 2008
Posts: 3158
Guildford England
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Posted on Aug 19 2014 03:02 PM
I wonder if hi-fi speaker spikes would work. Supposedly they prevent bass frequency transmitting to the floor but they might also reduce unwanted external vibration too.

I wouldn't fit them to the tank though, probably best to fit them to a short plank with the reverb unit sitting on top.
I like Dave's idea but they're stick-on and bound to fall off sooner or later.
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SlacktoneDave
Joined: Jul 01, 2006
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Posted on Aug 19 2014 04:06 PM
crumble wrote:
I like Dave's idea but they're stick-on and bound to fall off sooner or later.
I don't stick them on. I carry them in a bag inside the reverb unit, and ace them under, if needed.
-dave
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crumble
Joined: Sep 09, 2008
Posts: 3158
Guildford England
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Posted on Aug 19 2014 04:22 PM
SlacktoneDave wrote:
crumble wrote:
I like Dave's idea but they're stick-on and bound to fall off sooner or later.
I don't stick them on. I carry them in a bag inside the reverb unit, and ace them under, if needed.
-dave
Ah that make sense now. I was thinking in terms of sliding roadgear sideways into the back of a station wagon or whatever.
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