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I am a newcomer to surf music, and I just bought a Fender Squire VM Jaguar. Those of you who play them (and I know you are out there), what strings sound the best for surf music?

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If you are new to guitar, heavy flats might work best. They are what I learned to play guitar on, as it is easier to double-pick. Once I started writing more music and finding myself needing to be both more dynamic and more expressive round wound strings were the only way to go.

I advocate round wounds for flats, and I prefer DR Pure Blues .11s, although their .12s might work best for a Jag. The low E is barely heavy enough for the Jag scale-length.

The best string, in my opinion, is Thomastik Be Bop .11s but you won't find me putting out the money for those. The best, but not worth the money over DR Pure Blues.

I wouldn't recommend .10s on a Jag. The .10 isn't the issue, it is how light the low E, A, and the D are. With the 24" scale length they just don't quite work.

Welcome to the surf music! And congrats on the Jag! The Jag is an amazing instrument and I love the 24" scale length. I've owned many of them in my day and am about to add another soon.

Thanks Jake,
Nope. I'm not new to guitar. Been playing since 1979. But surf is rather new territory for me. One thing I do know is that the strings have to (tone-wise) fit the guitar. Thanks for your input. I appreciate that.
Slick

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Slick,

Like you I have been playing for a while now but am pretty new to actually trying to play surf. So take what I say with a grain of salt as I too am just learning.

I recently picked up a Squier Jaguar which came with 9s on it. I replaced those with Beefy Slinkys which run 11 - 54. No more buzzes and a real nice thump from the lower strings.

The best part for me is that when I bend anything from the G up the shorter scale makes the effort to bend the 11s about equal to the effort needed to bend 10s on my Strat.

-Harry

I have the same guitar. I have tried a few different strings on mine but I found the best combo was .12 flatwounds by D'adario. They work very well for the classic sixties sound.

As mentioned, Jags respond well to heavier strings. In any case, if you are interested in a certain classic surf sound, you will want to at least try some flats at some point. The D'addario Chromes XL Flats are indeed good. I had trouble with them breaking at the ball end. YMMV. I have Pyramid Gold Flats on my Jazzmaster and like them.

Welcome!

Thanks Harry,
Did you have to do any other mods to the Jag yet besides the strings? What color did you get? I ordered the Surf Green and I can't wait to play it! Where does a person get a cheap case for a Jag? I appreciate your input.
Slick James

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The only one they had in stock was a 3 color burst. This winter it will become Olympic White Big Grin

No other mods, just the strings and a basic setup. Once the new wears off a little I will take it to my local luthier for a "real" setup.

Enjoy,
-Harry

Slick wrote:

Where does a person get a cheap case for a Jag?

Have a look at the SKB case for Jaguar/Jazzmaster, it looks nowhere neas as cool as the Fender cases but it's a decent, sturdy case. I find them better than the Fender ones, and they're quite a bit cheaper.

As for strings, I play flatwound 12-52's on my Jag, d'Addario Chromes up 'til now. But I'll be switching to Pyramid Golds in the days to come when I'll be changing the pickguard.

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Coach wrote:

No other mods, just the strings and a basic setup. Once the new wears off a little I will take it to my local luthier for a "real" setup.

Make sure they know the quirks of a Jag/Jazz. Even a season luthier can be thrown for a loop by these guitars. They are just different enough from a Tele/Strat that you have to treat them differently.

Thanks everyone for the overwhelming response! My take on all of this is that it boils down to a personal preference. However, I still needed guidance to move closer to that wet, dripping, sun-soaked, vintage sound.
I don't get into forums that much, because I busy trying to lay down tracks and practicing new licks. You guys, though, have been quite helpful, and friendly to boot. Kudos to you.
Slick

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Slick, be aware that early on you will likely need to have the nut slots opened up a bit for the heavier strings you'll be wanting to use - anything heavier than .009s want to bind in the factory-slotted nut. As for strings, I've been alternating between D'Addario Chromes and GHS Brite Flats on my VM Jag (both in .011 sets, wound third). The Chromes feel great and sound great new but I find the Brite Flats last a bit longer, but YMMV of course...

mike_fried wrote:

Slick, be aware that early on you will likely need to have the nut slots opened up a bit for the heavier strings you'll be wanting to use - anything heavier than .009s want to bind in the factory-slotted nut.

Just trying out the D'Addario family of strings at the moment. I found the Chromes to be an excellent string but I'm back on roundwounds. I usually use 11 to 52 gauge on my Strat but fancied trying D'Addario EXP110 10 to 46 coated for extra life. To my surprise these strings are very taught needing no truss rod adjustment at all, in fact I can hardly tell the difference. If nut slots are a problem these might just work on a Jag (EXL110 are nearly the same but cheaper).

Let's hear it for those D'Addario .12 flats - I just popped a set on a Squier Jag and have been mighty impressed. They took to the scale incredibly well, as mentioned I didn't need to adjust the truss rod.

One little tip (I'm sure you've already had it though) but you'll probably want to swap out the stock bridge as IMHO it sucks harder than a Vax. Loads of options, but a good starting point is a Mustang style bridge.

JakeDobner wrote:

Make sure they know the quirks of a Jag/Jazz. Even a season luthier can be thrown for a loop by these guitars. They are just different enough from a Tele/Strat that you have to treat them differently.

Thanks Jake,

He is a pretty well know builder in the area and an authorized Fender dealer, but I will be sure he is comfortable with the Jag before I turn it over to him.

I will say the setup he did on my Strat is amazing, I was never able to get the wiggle bar to work as well as he did!

-H

9 super slinkies on everything I own. I think I have power slinkies on the 22.7 scale Duo.. because I happened to have them.

I'm going to try D'Addario XL Chromes .11, then consider going up to .12's, haven't got the Jag yet but can't wait.

I was using D'Addario Pure Nickel 11s since I got my VM Jaguar. This past week I switched over to 12s Rotosound Monel Flatwounds with great satisfaction.

Monel is a copper/nickel alloy so the vintage sound remains. (The Jag needs no additional brightness IMO)

These are the first flats I've used since the early `60s! Very Happy

-don

Still rockin' after all these years!

I have Thomsatik Enfeld 11-47 flats on my 62 AVRI and they feel a wee bit on the light side. I could probably easily go to 12s

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I use ernie ball heavy bottom 52-10 on my jag.

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