Sigh. I'm not harping, and my last post was aimed at no one in particular. Just sharing my point of view. I'm tired of walking on eggshells. Share your opinions and we can discuss it in a friendly manner.

Having these little debates rarely ever convinces the other side that you are right, they are more to explain why you feel the way you do.

I actually enjoy talking about this stuff but not when people get all defensive. Why post if you are just going to get all huffy when someone replies with a slightly different view point? If we all agreed with everything someone posts it would be dullsville.

PS What do you want me to do with your Stigger account?

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your the man around here bro, do whatever you please.

I have nearly 40 surf tabs that I have written up and am willing to donate to any new player. If anyone has any interst you can email or private message me for the list of songs.

Warm Regards,

Waimea

Last edited: Apr 24, 2007 18:05:47

No harping intended, Waimea. My bad.

Dude if you've got that many tabs you should post some in the tab section here, since apparently the pickings are pretty slim right now. (That is, if it's not too much a pain in the ass. I don't know how it's done) I'm sure plenty of members here as well as lurkers or just passers-by would really dig it. If more people contribute to that it could make a pretty stellar resource. What the hell, I'll look into it too.

wooza
No harping intended, Waimea. My bad.

Dude if you've got that many tabs you should post some in the tab section here, since apparently the pickings are pretty slim right now. (That is, if it's not too much a pain in the ass. I don't know how it's done) I'm sure plenty of members here as well as lurkers or just passers-by would really dig it. If more people contribute to that it could make a pretty stellar resource. What the hell, I'll look into it too.

Thanks for the sentiments wooza. I have indeed tabbed that many tabs surf/instro songs out and would like to share. However, I have some concerns...

1: Most are on notebook and music paper. I will have to find away to make them electronic. I am not sure what the easiest way this would be done is. But, with some legwork I’m sure I can overcome this.

2: The legality of tabs right now is in question. I think it is completely absurd, but I do want to abide by the law.

3: there are many far more accomplished guitar players then me, many of them post here. I would not have a warm fuzzy feeling if people wanted to point out a myriad of inaccuracies.

WaimeaBay
wow you can't say anything without getting harped on. I stand corrected there is no forumla to surf music.

plugs in Charvel Jackson into marshall halfstack and begins whaleing

Of course there is a forumla for surf rock. Otherwise, if there wasn't, you wouldn't hear all the screw-counters in their matching suits say things like "yes, well that might be music, it is just not surf, though..." And believe me, they do! Generally this opinion springs forth immediately and without qualification. As though such a statement were intuitively obvious. Well, it just might be.

I reckon it is like gravity. Before Newton, gravity existed, they just didn't know how it worked, exactly. Surf rock I submit, (like rockabilly, bebop, klezmer, or Gregorian chants or any of the numerous "closed" genres) has a formula that the human brain recognizes.

Though, despite some rambling about hungarian scales or something I forget now, it has never been expressed sufficiently to me. And clearly I am too dull to conjure one of my own.

SSIV

Last edited: Apr 25, 2007 01:51:44

I have the videos from somgxpress. I bought them because I just couldn't hear what was going on in some songs, and I wanted to see what was going on so I could understand the surf music. I also down load a lot of Shadows tab, some atlantics tab, and others that I find here and there. Then I compare them to the recorded music. I bought a dvd from the duo--tones so I could see what they were doing when they played.
The reason?
I don't have all day to sit and try and figure out one note at a time for music I want to play. I also buy every surf music book I can find, for the same reason as stated above. I have figured out songs on my own, mostly they just come to me, but not always.

I also teach guitar, and I write the music to match each students abality. Sometimes they ask me how a certain piece is played, and I Show them. I dont say, well listen to the tape closer.
Surf music is just as complicated as Jazz or Country music or even bach. If, you don't have a clue how it is played.
A 'd' cord is a 'd' cord, but it sound a little different played different places along the fret board. It can also sound way different if you are using some cheap guitar and trying to replicate a professional sound from a cd. So I think video( even done incorrectly) or tab, or music books are a great way to start if there is no one to show one how.
So this guy does Gary Hooey? At least it can get a beginner a start.

Joel

YMMV, but I never learned so much when I sat down with the guitar and slowed down songs on the computer and wrote my own tab. Forcing myself to write down the notes and listen carefully over and over to stuff was the biggest help for me. After a while I didn't need to write things down; I found I could pick things out by my ear alone, whereas I could never do that before. So I think writing tabs is much more important than collecting them and learning from them. But there was a time when I frantically scoured the net for tabs also. See the MoAM tab page.

I made a "blank" tab text file and made copies of that. Everyone knows tabs on the internet are inaccurate and are meant to be starting points. Posting them on the net, especially with the comment system we have, will allow for some really interesting discussion I think. It will be interesting to see how different people play different parts. Just realize in advance people will hear things differently and play things differently.

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Another idea that all tab on the internet is incorrect, is itself incorrect. I have found tab that is note for note correct. Not much, but some.

When a person doesn't have a music teacher. When a person is just a beginner and doesn't have someone that plays surf music or any guitar music to talk to and share with, and when someone is isolated from others when a person doesn't understand the workings of cords on the fretboard, where ya gonna get your info?
Tapes, DVD's, internet, music books, cd music. These are the sources that are available.

Sure some people can just sit right down and figure things out, but I bet most have to have a starting point. That is what DVD's like what is being offered for sale at the start of this thread is for. It sure isn't perfectly traditional surf, but neither are most 3rd wave groups. But it is a place to start.

Plus it makes a few bucks for the people that make the DVD.

Joel

Joel