butchdelux
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Port Fierce, Florida
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Posted on Apr 27 2006 02:54 PM
I remember this came up on the Yahoo group awhile back, but I figured I'd shoot for some fresh input.
Do you guys assume a stage persona as a band, or do you go for the more "let the music do the talking" approach? Do the clothes make the band? Is a surf band in matching outfits (suits, lounge shirts, lucha-masks, whatever) more appealing to watch than a jeans-and-tshirt combo?
Just curious what y'all's thought on the matter are.
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Jon
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Columbus, OH
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Posted on Apr 27 2006 02:58 PM
I think there's definitely something appealing about the whole matching wardrobe thing, and I would probably want to do something like that if my band ever played shows. However, as long as I like the music, it really doesn't matter to me I guess.
I'm personally opposed to shorts and Hawaiian shirts, though.
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BillAqua
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Chicago IL.
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Posted on Apr 27 2006 03:09 PM
We call em' "uniforms" here, and we've had a evolving outfit which now contains cardigans, black pants, skinny ties, and Chuck Taylors. Our amps and guitars match, so why not the clothes?
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And of course the music should come first. But what's wrong with looking semi-professional on stage? And like Jon says...I wouldn't want to be caught dead in shorts and hawaiian shirts!
Of course the "uniforms" get hot and don't always last all night. But I think they added a little charm to the band, it's traditional, and it's can be interactive with the crowd. We've had chants of "take off the sweaters". If people pay attention more it's only better.
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kick_the_reverb
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Posted on Apr 27 2006 03:14 PM
Definitely makes a difference, and most likely more to "regular people" (as opposed to surf geeks like us), who come to see a whole show.
People usually don't come just for the audio (they could have listened to a cd instead), they come for an audio-visual experience.
Having a band outfit, that follows a theme (that matches the band's name), and MOVING on stage, is very important IMHO.
I know some of my friends don't care , but I care a lot.
Good subject to rehash for the sake of posterity
Ran
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dp
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mojave desert, california
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Posted on Apr 27 2006 05:44 PM
well, lately I have been wearing a tube sock...
just like my heros the RHCPeppers:
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Redd_Tyde
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Oceanside, CA
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Posted on Apr 27 2006 07:01 PM
I always thought there was some sort of kooky charm to the uniform(ity) thing.
My band is slowly moving toward a uniform. But since we also have the horror punk thing going, we will always be a little bloody and tattered.
So far we are planning to go with a white collared work shirt with our logo on the left sleeve, hawaiin print baggies and combat boots. Maybe add skinny ties, everything is sort of cultivating itself right now. The other members of the band aren't as informed on the surf music roots and culture. I am kinda educating them as I try to set a direction for the stage show.
Pics may or may not come in the future.
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bigtikidude
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Posted on Apr 27 2006 08:55 PM
kickthe_reverb_
Definitely makes a difference, and most likely more to "regular people" (as opposed to surf geeks like us), who come to see a whole show.
People usually don't come just for the audio (they could have listened to a cd instead), they come for an audio-visual experience.
Having a band outfit, that follows a theme (that matches the band's name), and MOVING on stage, is very important IMHO.
I know some of my friends don't care , but I care a lot.
Good subject to rehash for the sake of posterity
Ran
Hmm wonder who he's refering to??
I agree that a matching outfit does make a statement, and is probably better for a band.
But Is not a must in my book.
I'm there for the tunes, not the look.
Definetly No Hawiian shirts, especially matching new cheap ones form
K-mart or Target.
Old cool Hawiian shirts are for tiki parties/bars/events.
No Offense to the Sweater guys, but you'd never catch me in one of those.
I guess I got enough guff from people in High school for being in Choir and having to wear a tuxedo with tails( now that's classy) But Occasionally at Assemblys in the Gym we had to wear Lettermen sweaters( Oh the Humanity) I felt like Buddy Holly.
Don't know if i posted this before. But I'd like a surf band to wear
matching white Levi shorts, Van's High tops( dark Blue/Light Blue), and then other bands t-shirts.
Too show support for the scene.
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mom_surfing
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the outer banks of north carolina
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Posted on Apr 27 2006 09:10 PM
when the surge! played at surf expo this winter wearing all black with skinny white ties they looked (and sounded) like a class act
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MikeG
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Springfield, Oregon
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Posted on Apr 27 2006 09:47 PM
No matter how I dress him up, our bass player still manages to look like a hippie.
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BillAqua
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Chicago IL.
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Posted on Apr 27 2006 10:15 PM
bigtikidude
No Offense to the Sweater guys, but you'd never catch me in one of those.
I guess I got enough guff from people in High school for being in Choir and having to wear a tuxedo with tails( now that's classy) But Occasionally at Assemblys in the Gym we had to wear Lettermen sweaters( Oh the Humanity) I felt like Buddy Holly.
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Feeling like Buddy Holly to me would be the equivelant to what you "long hairs" refer to as reaching a state of Nirvana.
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WR
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netherlands
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Posted on Apr 28 2006 03:03 AM
kick_the_reverb
People usually don't come just for the audio (they could have listened to a cd instead), they come for an audio-visual experience.
that's it, absolutly. whether people realize it or not (and lots don't, esp. musicians with an "I aint gonna dress up like it's halloween" attitude ... (got one in the band)
there's different ways to approach it - the main thing is it's gotto "fit" with the music. nothing wrong with just wearing what you always wear, as long as everybody's dressed in the same style anyway, and that style fits the music. the phantom four springs to mind. also, Slacktone looks good to me on stage, no uniforms, but also no sore thumbs sticking out. they seem to wear ust what they're wearing, nothing spectacular but also nothing wrong. boring but effective, you might say, it doen';t do anything ecxtra for the music, but it also doesn't take the attention away 'cause somethings wrong.' (that's I think the _least _you have to pay attention to as far as stage presence goes)
than there's different ways of approaching the uniform thing.
same style but different clothes
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slick suits, looks normal but dressed for the occaison ....
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than there's the matching upto almost tongue in cheeck refference to a theme, ... 'happy days' in this case...
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although some op for a the Fonz letter jacket ....
and than there's the real 'dress up' - which makes the band more or less a theatre act.
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I find this VERY cool if it's done right, but I know lots of people think it's way over the top. it's the same people that won't dress up at all, or won't wear a white shirt when everyone else wears one.
I think it has something to do with whether you just take the experience on its face or need to put it in some category of 'rock' ..... much like in a lot of places (here in the netherlands at least) you'll be playing for an audience of 90% male, 60 % guitarists, who are ALL in the back with leather jackets, arms crossed, discussing whether or not your influenced by Yngwie Malmsteen and if you've got a '65 or a '66 guitar.
luckily, there are also lots of people, esp in the surf crowd, who just come to have a ball!
WR
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butchdelux
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Port Fierce, Florida
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Posted on Apr 28 2006 09:08 AM
Thanks for the input guys, keep it coming....
My drummer is a "not-gonna-play-dress-up" type. For local gigs, it's a non-issue, people just want to hear the music, and we play with such a variety of different syles of bands that the clothes are arbitrary, at best (the fact that we're playing instro-surf alone make us stand out like a sore thumb).
As far as outta-town gigs go - personally, I'd like to go the extra mile, based on the event. Examples: there's a place down here called the Jetsetter Lounge - which is a total 60's mod-shag-retro throwback kinda place....it's pretty damn swank, I must say. But the place has a built-in vibe, and a band playing there should be copasetic (sp?) to that vibe. Another would be a Polynesian weekender at a Ft Lauderdale tiki joint. The other bands/acts doing their thing all fit the bill - I just don't think the jeans-and-t-shirts approach to stage presence is appropriate....it doesn't serve the event.
So WR - how do you accomodate your "I aint gonna dress up like it's halloween" band member (or vice versa)?
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Redd_Tyde
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Oceanside, CA
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Posted on Apr 28 2006 11:47 AM
Last night we played to pretty much a empty house. So it was basically a practice for us. But we didn't get fully dressed up becuase the poeple that were there, were friends and family. But I have to say the vibe is much different. Even when looking across the stage at the other members. It seems like everything just became ordinary and that we were just another band.
When we don the outfits and make-up, I think it also psychs you out a little and motivates you to go out there and kick some ass on stage.
I am the old guy in my band and has taken a little bit of finesse to get everyone in my band on the same. The youngs one want to go overboard with the horror thing and the others have a thing about looking more like auto mechanics than zombie surfers. But they are coming around. It is a learning experience for them. I was in Goth and Industrial acts before, so the over tht top fashion and theatrics doesn't bother me. Especially if it makes "Seeing" the music more memoriable.
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PolloGuitar
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San Francisco
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Posted on Apr 28 2006 01:49 PM
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So WR - how do you accomodate your "I aint gonna dress up like it's halloween" band member (or vice versa)?
Wannes could go on stage in a pink tutu and nobody would be looking at him
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That is WR on the right, and the lovely Laura in the middle.
Basic black always works.
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Posted on Apr 28 2006 02:51 PM
BillAqua
bigtikidude
No Offense to the Sweater guys, but you'd never catch me in one of those.
I guess I got enough guff from people in High school for being in Choir and having to wear a tuxedo with tails( now that's classy) But Occasionally at Assemblys in the Gym we had to wear Lettermen sweaters( Oh the Humanity) I felt like Buddy Holly.
Jeff(bigtikidude)
Feeling like Buddy Holly to me would be the equivelant to what you "long hairs" refer to as reaching a state of Nirvana.
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JakeDobner
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Seattle
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Posted on Apr 28 2006 03:36 PM
No Hawaiian shirts, ever. I don't want to see that. A bunch of 50 year old guys wearing hawaiian shirts has never gotten a crowd, with no previous knowledge of the band, excited.
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MPoppitt
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Austin TEXAS!
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Posted on Apr 28 2006 04:35 PM
Redd_Tyde
When we don the outfits and make-up, I think it also psychs you out a little and motivates you to go out there and kick some ass on stage.
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I agree 100%.
We try to match, but we don't go overboard, and we NEVER wear hawaiian shirts.
You have to put on a show, and be interesting to look at, as well as sounding good.
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MikeG
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Springfield, Oregon
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Posted on Apr 28 2006 06:44 PM
Man, what's with all the hatin' on the Hawaiian shirts?
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Brian
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Posted on Apr 28 2006 06:57 PM
PolloGuitar
Wannes could go on stage in a pink tutu and nobody would be looking at him
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I don't have too much to add to the thread...I just wanted to look at that picture again...
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Brian
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Posted on Apr 28 2006 06:58 PM
Okay, actually I do have an opinion ...
I like the matching outfit look, especially for a trad based surf band. I would do that if I were in a band.
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