Is this that dude that had the teaser lesson posted a while back?

He had an annoying voice, but would be a great resource for people who are just getting their feet wet.

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I dunno about tht guy, he seems kinda clueless about surf. I remeber watching his sample lesson and he was telling people to make sure they use compression and slight distortion. I was like WTF?

He seems more of a Gary Hoey type surf player, so in reality, not a surf player. I'd surf clear of this wave if I were you.

Howeveer, I do feel there are not enough REAL recources for budding surf guitar players. I hope we can change that. There is basically no recources for tabs, sites for surf theory, etc. Kinda sad, that might have something to do with why numbers of surf fans are dwindling.

Surf theory?

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Surf theory?

Yea, that would be awesome!
Blues Rock Metal Classical Jazz Funk Country Theory.
I mean wheres the Surf at dad gum.

I ordered it. If anything I give the guy CREDIT for putting a Surf DVD together with backing tracks etc. Yea it might not be perfect but its great to see this catagory covered by a whole 3 people lol. Yea, I have 2 Surf Guitar Teaching DVDs. Bash the guy cause he looks rocker or plays with a bit of overdrive to keep the young kids interested. I think its great, till someone else does better.

Surf Theory? Count me in. You know how hard it is to find a surf beat drum track. Thousands of drum tracks...3 surf/pary/tom tom type beats lol.

*pumps fist in the air for surf music!

(all above comments copywrite choppers opinion inc and not to be used for anything other than understanding hes just some 46 year old guy that digs surf music, and playing it itsy bitsy on his Fender at home gear all surf type dvds and cds treasured highly

I'm not trolling, I just don't feel you need an in-depth knowledge of theory to play surf, especially the classics. Sitting down with CD's and learning the parts by ear is the best way to go. Try to get off tab as soon as possible. Develop your ear so you can hear and learn parts on your own is essential to becoming a good player, IMHO.

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There was a series of VHS tapes that were sponsored by Epiphone that showed you how to play songs. They had two surf volumes, but the second one was really "surf related": it had Secret Agent Man, Hot Rod Lincoln, etc. There was no reverb to be heard, and the guitars were all wrong (Epiphone anyone?) but still they were fun to watch to get me started. I believe I saw them on DVD. I got mine for like $10 at a Guitar Center over 10 years ago. I think they were called SongXpress.

I think John Blair should put together an instructional DVD and get guys like Pete Curry, Dusty Watson, Wronski, etc all involved. That would be awesome.

I think Josh might have one of those. The guy played an epiphone of some sort, and there was no reverb, but he did play misirlou...And I think it was called SongXpress as well.

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Yeah, SongXpress was it:

http://www.stagepass.com/instruction/video/songxpress.html

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I'm not trolling, I just don't feel you need an in-depth knowledge of theory to play surf, especially the classics. Sitting down with CD's and learning the parts by ear is the best way to go. Try to get off tab as soon as possible. Develop your ear so you can hear and learn parts on your own is essential to becoming a good player, IMHO.

I agree with that, the key to learning is playing along. but at the same time, that's easily said, Ive had theory lessons for a long time and I think it helps me a lot. and it annoys the crap out of me if one of my bandmates has trouble coming up with a different finger for a chord, or doesn't understand the rhythm or whatever. but that has more to do with general theory, separate surf theory, i don't know if you could fill more then 2 pages with it.

surf books are good regardless, because people will get books anyway. the 'better play along' theory goes equally for rock and blues, yet, a music store will have shelves full of 'rock solo pt. 1 to 15" "blues solo pt 1-25' , easy blues solo for beginners pt 1-5" etc. appearantly they sell, so better have some surf books too!

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I agree with Brian entirely. Surf is, in fact, way more broad and inclusive than people tend to give it credit for. The genre can handle just about any style you throw at it and still work. Yet what's cool is that despite being so all-encompassing just about everyone who plays surf has taught themselves how to do so. People can take jazz studies in college or formal classical lessons or whatever, but regardless of your formal training when you step up to play surf you learn with your ear and teach yourself. It's your own personal style that influences how your playing sounds and where your music fits within the genre. You don't even need any prior training for the most part. Guys just teaching themselves from scratch can put out some really cool stuff.
My only guitar training was VERY informal and so my knowledge of theory and music as a subject hovers just above zero. I don't know any scales and stuff, but I do know how surf sounds and feels, or how I want it to sound and feel, and I can still convey that when I play guitar. In fact, some of the songs I've been writing and playing of late--I don't even know what some of the chords are that I've come up with. They're finger formations and progressions I've never played before, but whatever. They still sound really cool if I do say so myself.

not exactly waimea, we're having a discussion that's all.

Brian is right to some level in saying surf is simple music which you can mostly figure out by ear easily and thats the best way imo too

BUT who the fuck am I anyway? I had very good training for years when I was a kid and I cant imagine what it's like to not have had that. Im baffled too someone would ask for common chords in surf, but then again.

you know, back when, it took me a year of playing electric or so to figure out that "that cool electric sound" was not a matter of how you strum the guitar, but a mater of having a distortionpedal I once asked at the guitar store "which pedal make the jazzuitar sound?"

see, what brian says goes for "rock solos pt 1-15" books too. and blues even more. at least from my pov. but people want to learn guitar, and choose teaching methods, and if surf stuff is available, why not?

I taught guitar to kids 10 -15 - really, no decent beginners guitar method with cool songs available. what 14 yr old nirvana fan (this is a while ago) is gonna get motivated by having to play 'old mcdonald had a farm' and 'happy birthday to you' ... and maye maybe after 6 months if they are lucky the chords to "hey jude". I ended up writing my own simplified versions of grunge and indie songs, just cause the kids dug it and would actually practice and learn guitar.

bottomline, everyone has to start somewhere, and learn is own way, and if videos and books do it for someone, and surf stuff is available, all the better, even though it's no substitute for sitting down with a friedn and figuring out a song.

WR

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