Anyone Tilt-Back?

bamboozer

Joined: Jan 18, 2010
Posts: 672
Delaware
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Posted on May 20 2014 03:23 PM

Tilt back on both my amps, I love it. No complaints from the band and the sound is better, what you hear is what the amp really sounds like.

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mad_dog

Joined: Sep 23, 2008
Posts: 349
Montclair, NJ

Posted on May 20 2014 05:59 PM

I carry a pedal box (empty) in the back of my amp, which has no tilt hardware built in. Then slip it under the front at gigs. It's just enough, really helps me hear, and spreads the sound.
MD

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ravcon

Joined: Feb 20, 2010
Posts: 727
Charlotte, NC
United States

Posted on May 20 2014 06:10 PM

Back in the live show days, I always tilted. I could hear myself without drowning out everyone else.

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Mike

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SaschaReynders

Joined: Dec 26, 2013
Posts: 251
France

Posted on May 21 2014 03:02 AM

I never tilt back my amp on stage (nor at rehearsals for that matter), I just put it on top of my flight case: works for me.

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elwrongo

Joined: Jul 05, 2010
Posts: 60
Perth
Australia

Posted on May 22 2014 04:58 AM

I tried to tilt my Bandmaster but found my cocktails would slide off the top when we started playing.

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SanchoPansen

Joined: Jan 04, 2011
Posts: 1588
Berlin L-Berg
Germany

Posted on May 22 2014 05:48 AM

Don't ever dare to put drinks on your amp! And please don't ask how I found out

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Hammond101

Joined: Feb 22, 2013
Posts: 342
SoCal USA

Posted on May 22 2014 06:07 PM

I'm surprised no one mentioned the origin of tilt back legs. They were put on amps because many were use in orchestra pits back in the day. They allowed the guitars voice to be heard outside of the pit without it being too loud inside.

I tilt on shallow stages where I am very close to my amp otherwise not so much.

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cambeezy

Joined: Jun 26, 2007
Posts: 399
Cleveland, Ohio
United States

Posted on May 22 2014 06:25 PM

elwrongo wrote:

I tried to tilt my Bandmaster but found my cocktails would slide off the top when we started playing.

Man, thats too far to reach anyway. Just attach one of these to your lower bout and rock out!

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dirkkahuna

Joined: Dec 21, 2012
Posts: 77
Willow Street, PA
United States

Posted on May 22 2014 09:00 PM

does anyone have a blueprint or the correct measurements for installing fender tilt legs on a combo amp?

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vintagesurfdude

Joined: Nov 28, 2011
Posts: 795
Prescott Valley, AZ
United States

Posted on May 22 2014 11:12 PM

not sure how correct this is, but here's aguy doing it.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NY429Tc-eQI

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SanchoPansen

Joined: Jan 04, 2011
Posts: 1588
Berlin L-Berg
Germany

Posted on May 23 2014 12:51 AM

I found out that there is no such thing as a blueprint. First of all it depends on the amp/cab. Install the tilts ~1 1/2 inches away from the bottom and 1-2 inches to the inside of the amp (depending on your amp/cab). Tilt until you get the desired angle and mark the spot where you put the stops/bumpers (whatever they are called in english). Actually it isn't really important where you put the legs. The angle is important. And that you get them aligned in the same angle on both sides. That's it. Oh, and if some of you original 1x15" Showman cab owners could be so nice and get a tape measure and write down the position of the legs and stops here, that'd be great thanks!

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Old_Tele_man

Joined: May 01, 2014
Posts: 75
Tucson, AZ
United States

Posted on May 24 2014 08:24 PM

If the 'stage' and 'dance floor' are at the same level, I use the tiltback legs on my SuperReverb (w/JBL's), but not when the stage is higher than the dancefloor.

Last edited: May 24, 2014 20:25:22

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stevel

Joined: Oct 12, 2012
Posts: 219
Hampton Roads, Virginia
United States

Posted on May 26 2014 09:00 PM

Hammond101 wrote:

I'm surprised no one mentioned the origin of tilt back legs. They were put on amps because many were use in orchestra pits back in the day. They allowed the guitars voice to be heard outside of the pit without it being too loud inside.

Yeah, this is the kind of info I was originally looking for.

I'm still playing with the TR on the amp stand. Saturday we played a huge outdoor venue and I was trying to keep it "in line" for the PA, but also hear myself. I think on bigger stages I have a tendency to put it further back (because I can) but then it's not as easy to hear as when it's closer in bar gigs.

I will agree with someone who posted that the TRRI tilt back legs are too much of an angle - I think it is.

I used to have a Super and I did tilt that back all the time - but it was always much less of an angle - the Twin is like a 45 - would be great like a wedge but behind you, if it's more than a couple feet back it's going over your head completely.

I also do the "step away from the mic stand when I play a solo" trick so that not only do I boost the amp, but it's also getting picked up because it's aimed directly at my vocal mic. Has to be on a stand for that.

One band I play with is so loud that I think I'm just going to have to go to in-ears (I'm playing keys with them too so that means I really have to hear all those sounds).

Oh, BTW, I always felt the Super was the PERFECT height for setting drinks on - as long as it wasn't tilted back. Darn Twin is far too low!

Steve

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stevel

Joined: Oct 12, 2012
Posts: 219
Hampton Roads, Virginia
United States

Posted on Jun 01 2014 07:37 PM

So I actually played a gig tilted back last night. Was out of necessity. I'm in a 6 piece and we do Bass Drums Keys from left to right on the back line, and Guitar Vox Guitar (me) on the front line. I don't like to be directly in front of the keyboard player so usually I'm kind of between him and the drummer and put my amp between the drums and his keyboard stand (all I need is the width of a twin there). But last night the stage was so narrow that I ended up putting my Twin on the floor under his keyboard stand. Tilted back. Usually a big club I have it on the stand - which also points at the back of my head - it's elevated and tilted a little and run it on 4. Last night, on the floor tilted back I actually only ran it on 3 (though this band is a little quieter too) and it was plenty pointing right at me.

The biggest problem I see is in this quieter band, the amp, though through the PA, is still providing some room sound, so it needs to get to the audience and not just the back of my head, which the tilt back is not going to accomplish unless the ceiling is at the right place (and reflective).

Steve

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bamboozer Joined: Jan 18, 2010 Posts: 672 Delaware	Posted on May 20 2014 03:23 PM Tilt back on both my amps, I love it. No complaints from the band and the sound is better, what you hear is what the amp really sounds like. Top
mad_dog Joined: Sep 23, 2008 Posts: 349 Montclair, NJ	Posted on May 20 2014 05:59 PM I carry a pedal box (empty) in the back of my amp, which has no tilt hardware built in. Then slip it under the front at gigs. It's just enough, really helps me hear, and spreads the sound. MD Top
ravcon Joined: Feb 20, 2010 Posts: 727 Charlotte, NC	Posted on May 20 2014 06:10 PM Back in the live show days, I always tilted. I could hear myself without drowning out everyone else. — Mike manfromravcon.com Top
SaschaReynders Joined: Dec 26, 2013 Posts: 251	Posted on May 21 2014 03:02 AM I never tilt back my amp on stage (nor at rehearsals for that matter), I just put it on top of my flight case: works for me. — "Duck Tape is like The Force: it has a light side and a dark side and it holds the universe together" https://www.facebook.com/pages/Speedball-JR/151771678181829?fref=ts https://twitter.com/SPEEDBALLJR https://itunes.apple.com/be/artist/speedball-jr/id389972205 Top
elwrongo Joined: Jul 05, 2010 Posts: 60 Perth	Posted on May 22 2014 04:58 AM I tried to tilt my Bandmaster but found my cocktails would slide off the top when we started playing. Top
SanchoPansen Joined: Jan 04, 2011 Posts: 1588 Berlin L-Berg	Posted on May 22 2014 05:48 AM Don't ever dare to put drinks on your amp! And please don't ask how I found out — The Hicadoolas Top
Hammond101 Joined: Feb 22, 2013 Posts: 342 SoCal USA	Posted on May 22 2014 06:07 PM I'm surprised no one mentioned the origin of tilt back legs. They were put on amps because many were use in orchestra pits back in the day. They allowed the guitars voice to be heard outside of the pit without it being too loud inside. I tilt on shallow stages where I am very close to my amp otherwise not so much. — Keep it Drippy Brothers and Sisters! Top
cambeezy Joined: Jun 26, 2007 Posts: 399 Cleveland, Ohio	Posted on May 22 2014 06:25 PM elwrongo wrote: I tried to tilt my Bandmaster but found my cocktails would slide off the top when we started playing. Man, thats too far to reach anyway. Just attach one of these to your lower bout and rock out! Top
dirkkahuna Joined: Dec 21, 2012 Posts: 77 Willow Street, PA	Posted on May 22 2014 09:00 PM does anyone have a blueprint or the correct measurements for installing fender tilt legs on a combo amp? — give me 3-fingers of 1st Wave SURF Top
vintagesurfdude Joined: Nov 28, 2011 Posts: 795 Prescott Valley, AZ	Posted on May 22 2014 11:12 PM not sure how correct this is, but here's aguy doing it. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NY429Tc-eQI Top
SanchoPansen Joined: Jan 04, 2011 Posts: 1588 Berlin L-Berg	Posted on May 23 2014 12:51 AM I found out that there is no such thing as a blueprint. First of all it depends on the amp/cab. Install the tilts ~1 1/2 inches away from the bottom and 1-2 inches to the inside of the amp (depending on your amp/cab). Tilt until you get the desired angle and mark the spot where you put the stops/bumpers (whatever they are called in english). Actually it isn't really important where you put the legs. The angle is important. And that you get them aligned in the same angle on both sides. That's it. Oh, and if some of you original 1x15" Showman cab owners could be so nice and get a tape measure and write down the position of the legs and stops here, that'd be great thanks! — The Hicadoolas Top
Old_Tele_man Joined: May 01, 2014 Posts: 75 Tucson, AZ	Posted on May 24 2014 08:24 PM If the 'stage' and 'dance floor' are at the same level, I use the tiltback legs on my SuperReverb (w/JBL's), but not when the stage is higher than the dancefloor. Last edited: May 24, 2014 20:25:22 Top
stevel Joined: Oct 12, 2012 Posts: 219 Hampton Roads, Virginia	Posted on May 26 2014 09:00 PM Hammond101 wrote: I'm surprised no one mentioned the origin of tilt back legs. They were put on amps because many were use in orchestra pits back in the day. They allowed the guitars voice to be heard outside of the pit without it being too loud inside. Yeah, this is the kind of info I was originally looking for. I'm still playing with the TR on the amp stand. Saturday we played a huge outdoor venue and I was trying to keep it "in line" for the PA, but also hear myself. I think on bigger stages I have a tendency to put it further back (because I can) but then it's not as easy to hear as when it's closer in bar gigs. I will agree with someone who posted that the TRRI tilt back legs are too much of an angle - I think it is. I used to have a Super and I did tilt that back all the time - but it was always much less of an angle - the Twin is like a 45 - would be great like a wedge but behind you, if it's more than a couple feet back it's going over your head completely. I also do the "step away from the mic stand when I play a solo" trick so that not only do I boost the amp, but it's also getting picked up because it's aimed directly at my vocal mic. Has to be on a stand for that. One band I play with is so loud that I think I'm just going to have to go to in-ears (I'm playing keys with them too so that means I really have to hear all those sounds). Oh, BTW, I always felt the Super was the PERFECT height for setting drinks on - as long as it wasn't tilted back. Darn Twin is far too low! Steve Top
stevel Joined: Oct 12, 2012 Posts: 219 Hampton Roads, Virginia	Posted on Jun 01 2014 07:37 PM So I actually played a gig tilted back last night. Was out of necessity. I'm in a 6 piece and we do Bass Drums Keys from left to right on the back line, and Guitar Vox Guitar (me) on the front line. I don't like to be directly in front of the keyboard player so usually I'm kind of between him and the drummer and put my amp between the drums and his keyboard stand (all I need is the width of a twin there). But last night the stage was so narrow that I ended up putting my Twin on the floor under his keyboard stand. Tilted back. Usually a big club I have it on the stand - which also points at the back of my head - it's elevated and tilted a little and run it on 4. Last night, on the floor tilted back I actually only ran it on 3 (though this band is a little quieter too) and it was plenty pointing right at me. The biggest problem I see is in this quieter band, the amp, though through the PA, is still providing some room sound, so it needs to get to the audience and not just the back of my head, which the tilt back is not going to accomplish unless the ceiling is at the right place (and reflective). Steve Top

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