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What do you wanna know about string tension? http://www.daddario.com/upload/tension_chart_13934.pdf

so1om wrote:

What do you wanna know about string tension? http://www.daddario.com/upload/tension_chart_13934.pdf

Using this formula, it's possible to make up a custom set of six Bass VI strings that all have essentially the same tension. All things considered, a little extra tension might be a good thing. It's also possible to calculate the tension of the stock or any other set of strings, like the La Bella's.

I just thought a low 102 and a high 24 might have too unbalanced tension. But honestly, I don't what the consequences on a Squier Bass VI would be of that.

This is Noel. Reverb's at maximum an' I'm givin' 'er all she's got.

I'm using rubber bands as the strings.

JakeDobner wrote:

I'm using rubber bands as the strings.

I thought so...

This is Noel. Reverb's at maximum an' I'm givin' 'er all she's got.

"I'm using rubber bands as the strings."

The red, yellow or regular colored ones?

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CrazyAces wrote:

"I'm using rubber bands as the strings."

The red, yellow or regular colored ones?

What about blue? I like blue.

This is Noel. Reverb's at maximum an' I'm givin' 'er all she's got.

When I was kid I would wait for the mailman to come by and for some reason he would give us a free rubber band..........and it was the coolest thing in the world to us..........LOL

But I digress, back to rubber band tension for Bass VI's.

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CrazyAces wrote:

"I'm using rubber bands as the strings."

The red, yellow or regular colored ones?

Those aren't the vintage ones...

This is finally starting to get really interesting.

This is Noel. Reverb's at maximum an' I'm givin' 'er all she's got.

I'm using whatever the guitar was shipped with 20 years ago. Doesn't Fender still sell a set?

Thanks Noel! I'm using synthetic rubber bands that were made using original rubber band technology from the early 1960s and you can definitely tell the difference between the red and the blue rubber bands.

No volume drop for me.

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Sorry to distract from rubber band discussion. so1om - I do notice a volume drop when combining pickups. In both Bass VIs I have.

Ran

The Scimitars

Thanks!

Any of you use those Asbury basses with the silicone strings? Interesting!

I don't notice any volume drop in that combination. Interesting. Check the output impedance.

I do feel the need for a compressor on the way to the amp, though. The rounds are quite unforgiving, but are teaching me proper use of dynamics.

Just noticed this thread on OSG. Could be useful for Squier Bass VI owners.

Tremolo mod

Old punks never die... They just become surf rockers.

Smooth doesn't exist, loose and tight do. You DO NOT want a loose spring(which creates that smooth people talk about). Having a loose spring limits the best feature of the Jag/Jazz trem, the fact that it travels upwards. Only going down on the trem doesn't really sound good if you are just wiggling the arm. Have the tight spring creates a tighter waver that just sounds awesome. You can also do that the Nels Cline thing I've ripped off! Also, the MBV thing reacts/sounds better/requires less hand movement.

Vintage springs and the Mastery springs are tight for a reason.

If I understand correctly, the problem the link posted above tries to solve is the upper part of the import brass thingummy catching in the spring's middle turns, which the AVRI doesn't do because of its tapered shape. By filing down the upper part only, it would cause the top to stay clear of the spring while the bottom part would still be snugly held by the end of the spring -- just like on an AVRI. No looseness whatsoever.

AVRI brass part:
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Import brass part, stock:
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Import brass part, modded:
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That being said, the trem vibrato on my Squier VM Bass VI (yes, I ended up buying it from my friend) works perfectly smoothly out of the box. At least that's something that doesn't need upgrading.

Old punks never die... They just become surf rockers.

Last edited: Apr 20, 2014 05:24:41

What is that Nels Cline thing? Is it something like pulling the arm and letting it go so it oscillates at an audio frequency? Mustang vibratos are good for that – so good that you have to hold onto them to prevent them from oscillating the top strings when you pick hard.

JakeDobner wrote:
You can also do that the Nels Cline thing I've ripped off!

Squink Out!

Not, not that but the tight spring facilitates that as well.

What Nels did, is when playing high notes, you can substitute picking for just quickly(in up and down speed) giving the bar an up and down wiggle(don't dip too far down or up) It gives a ebow type effect. Pretty cool! You'll have to use a pick to reactivate the string, but while it is sustaining you get that great effect.

I have a Squier VM Bass VI and these are my findings so far:

I did the OSG "Cone Mod" to the spring stop and it makes a world of difference. Out of the box, my vibrato didn't have a solid home position. I could leave it anywhere within 1/4" inch span. The Cone Mod eliminated that.

I bought the LaBella Nickel Plated Roundwound set from Bassstringsonline.com . It's like a totally different instrument after getting rid of the rubber bands that came with it. It's easier to tune with the new strings.

Finally, I did a 180 degree flip with the bridge. It was a real PITA to intonate it, but I don't need to spend $112 on a Staytrem bridge either. The other mod I made to the bridge was I put some Elmers glue in the string height screws to keep them from vibrating loose.

...I'll report more as I find more. Thanks!

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Last edited: Apr 22, 2014 16:45:06

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