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Oh yea, I really like the mod on the CC. I only use it on about 2 songs, one of which is a cover of Spider Baby to give it that creepy dissonant kind of sound. Saying that, I've never once changed the mod settings on it, partly because MXRs decision to put the controls INSIDE the pedal makes it a huge hassle.

+1 on the carbon copy. I really love it. Someday im gonna own one ;) Im saving up for an tube amp and some good pedals now, and the carbon copy is in the top 3 pedals i want.

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I've never once changed the mod settings on it, partly because MXRs decision to put the controls INSIDE the pedal makes it a huge hassle.

So true. I actually changed the settings, but still...not my cup of tea. It's a great pedal anyway.

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I have not seen anyone else mention it, but I have a Line 6 DL4 which I really like. It has very good simulations of most of the big name pedals of the past. It is also built like a tank, it is NOT a small pedal.

Another thing I like about it is that it can be used as a looper. This allows me to lay down a short guitar part and then solo over it.

I picked up mine used on eBay for around $100.00. It is fairly intuitive, the one thing I wish it had was an LED display, but truth is I always get a delay that is usable.

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I'm a fan of analog delays. Has anyone here tried a BBE "Two-Timer" ? I've got one & seem to get some "just right" long repeats w/it. (It's called "2-Timer" because you can set one side for one setting & the 2nd side for another setting.) You can set it for slapback on one side & longer "mountain type" echo on the other. I'm pretty happy with it. Anyone else here had any experience with one or tried it out ?

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Are you sure about that? The EHX website still lists die Deluxe Memory Man as available along with newer versions, that do feature tempo tapping but are still built from the same analog components.

Positive about it. 2009. EHX has a page describing how the classic 5 knob version is being discontinued. The reason for the discontinue is that Panasonic stopped making the MN3005 chips that the analog classic uses. Even later versions of the classic DMM could use the MN3008's because of this, but it took four MN3008's to give the same delay as 2 MN3005's.

EHX DMM Discontinued

The interesting part was EHX stated that the new XO version was the exact same analog circuit of the one it was replacing. If you take an XO apart, you can see that's not quite true.

EHX in their documentation PDF state that the new version is identical except it has true bypass. Except the 2003 and newer versions of the DMM in the big boxes also had true bypass.

The XO Deluxe Memory Man didn't last long, mainly because it didn't sound anything like what the original did. So three more variations of the DMM appeared. And a few more fibs, here and there. After all, they want to stay in business selling stuff..So if you take the various DMM's apart you realize the only thing they share in common is the concept.

Which is not to say that the DMM isn't usable, many really like the newer sound and if that works for someone, perfect I say. Best to try them all if you can, you'll find significant differences in sound and control.

Mel

On my man pedal board I also use a Carbon Copy, without the mod switch engaged. For my needs it has good range & sound, and simplicity was a consideration. Just turn the dial(s) to what ya like.

CUTBACK

I got an MXR Carbon Copy on my pedalboard as well, it's a very good and easy to use analog delay. Don't use the mod switch either though.
I have a Danelectro Reel Echo as well but even though it looks cool and is fun to play around with, I wouldn't say it qualifies as "the best delay pedal".

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+1 on the Danelectro Reel Echo.

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I prefer analog delays.The best sounding one I've ever tried/had is an old, beat-up '70's E-H Memory Man. I A-B'd it with a Maestro tube Echoplex and I could tell no difference at all. I rarely use it anymore as it's too big to fit on my pedalboard.

Currently I'm using a Way Huge Aqua Puss. I don't need a long delay and it's 300ms is plenty for me.

Pedals are much like strings, picks, pickups, guitar brands/models, cars and women - there is no "best one", just the one YOU like the best. Smile

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Another thumbs down for the Danelectro Reel Echo, mine died last year, I have never been happy with the oversized poc.

Ran

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I agree that the "best" delay or best anything is the one that works well for you but for an affordable (extremely) shorter, analog sounding device I've been using the Behringer VD400 Vintage Delay for a few years now and really like it.
I've had, still have Boss DM-2's, Carbon Copy, Line6 Echopark and DL4, Newer Electro Harmonix stuff, A TC Electronic something or other and an old Exchoplex and for live and recording I've settled on the Behringer.
Sounds similar to a Boss DM-2 but I find it to be more musical in regards to attack than that or the Carbon Copy.

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I'm having fun with the El Capistan for it's versatility. I do dig the Carbon Copy as well. It's great for the price!

Interesting (or not): A friend just brought over an Echorec Pedal that I was hoping to use on a recording but I ended up favoring my TC Electronic Nova Repeater set for Muti-Tap type thing.
The Echorec was very cool indeed but the tone of the guitar was preserved better with the TC.
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I finally broke down and ordered a new one yesterday. For years I used the Guyatone mini delay and loved them. Yep, I had three. For some reason after a couple of years of my abuse, they started acting funny. I also had and liked a lot the presetable Korg unit but it has started loosing its memory and you never know what echo is lurking within waiting for you to key it up.

After doing a LOT of online listening and reading about different highly rated delays, I finally sprung for the new TC Flashback (basic model). It seems to do a lot for the money and I found an ebay seller (Unique squared) who had them for $118+shipping. Their location is one block from my office. I'll try run by tomorrow and pick it up.

In general I have lousy luck with pedals and I limit my use of them to a tuner and a delay. KISS. Too many knobs and I get lost.

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Someone mentioned the Visual Sound H2O. I had that pedal for years. I didn't like the chorus on it, but that delay. Let me tell you how I miss that tasty analog delay. I replaced it with an Earthquaker Dispatch master, which I love, but the delay isn't the same.

I really love EQDs Disaster Transport series. If you just want basic analog delay check out the Disaster Transport JR. If you want optional modulation check out the regular one. If you plan on makes trippy soundscapes check out the SR, one side it modulated delay, the other is verb and delay, and you can mix match and make them bleed together. I want to save up for the SR at some point soon.

One of my friends has the big green Line 6 unit (dl4?) that I find surprisingly useable and sounds good. The loop option is great if you are a lone guitarist. The analog options aren't quite as authentic as I would want for regular use, but I could live with it for all the options it has.

I've never personally used the Catalinbread Belle Epoch, but demos of it make me drool. The quality of effects that comes out of that shop is consistently mind blowing. I wouldn't hesitate buying any of their products if they claimed it did what I was looking for. Everything else has lived up to or surpassed expectations.

sepherus wrote:

Someone mentioned the Visual Sound H2O. I had that pedal for years. I didn't like the chorus on it, but that delay. Let me tell you how I miss that tasty analog delay. I replaced it with an Earthquaker Dispatch master, which I love, but the delay isn't the same.

I really love EQDs Disaster Transport series. If you just want basic analog delay check out the Disaster Transport JR. If you want optional modulation check out the regular one. If you plan on makes trippy soundscapes check out the SR, one side it modulated delay, the other is verb and delay, and you can mix match and make them bleed together. I want to save up for the SR at some point soon.

One of my friends has the big green Line 6 unit (dl4?) that I find surprisingly useable and sounds good. The loop option is great if you are a lone guitarist. The analog options aren't quite as authentic as I would want for regular use, but I could live with it for all the options it has.

I've never personally used the Catalinbread Belle Epoch, but demos of it make me drool. The quality of effects that comes out of that shop is consistently mind blowing. I wouldn't hesitate buying any of their products if they claimed it did what I was looking for. Everything else has lived up to or surpassed expectations.

I added a dispatch master recently to my collection of delays. Obviously it does some incredible ambient sounds. Have you dialed in a good analogue tape echo on it? I think I've come close.

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Stratdancer, I don't think it is the best option for analog tape echo sounds. It stays crisp on all it's repeats. I do sometimes leave the delay and repeats short and keep the verb up for a bit more slap back style, but it's not authentic.

Aside from all the different features available, the decision for me came down to how I like to use delay. Which means for me always on, set very subtly, repeats de-emphasized. Not the way most would use a delay pedal I guess.

The two best of all the many for that purpose are the Skreddy Echo and the Catalinbread Montavillian. Interesting experience last week. I've been real curious about the CB Belle Epoch. Found one used. A/Bed it endlessly with the Montavillian.

Everything I've heard about the Belle Epoch turns out to be true. Toneful, beautiful sound, love the pre-amp. But the Montavillian is better for what I typically do, so that's the one that stays.
MD

sepherus wrote:

Stratdancer, I don't think it is the best option for analog tape echo sounds. It stays crisp on all it's repeats. I do sometimes leave the delay and repeats short and keep the verb up for a bit more slap back style, but it's not authentic.

The DM does Merman stuff really well but it does lack for a good tape echo. I have it set for slap with just a touch of verb on it. I'm going to order the pedal that Jeff from Crazy Aces said he uses. It's 25 bucks!!! I like my TC Electronics Flashback on slap also but I tend to keep that in the loop of my Marshall when for when I play rock. The best tape echo sim I have is my old 18V DOD 588A. It's killer but it needs some TLC.

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