JakeDobner
Joined: Feb 26, 2006
Posts: 12159
Seattle
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Posted on Feb 27 2014 11:11 PM
Stuff like this is why I love Disintegration so much. Plainsong, the opener, has like 4 minutes of lush repetitive ambience before you hear his voice, a simple refrain. The next track, pictures of you goes like 3 and a half minutes before lyrics. And the back half of that album has A LOT of that.
And yeah, I know what you mean though. A Forest, Pornography, Faith... they rule.
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Matt22
Joined: Feb 15, 2007
Posts: 2825
Fredericksburg, Virginia
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Posted on Feb 27 2014 11:14 PM
JakeDobner wrote:
Stuff like this is why I love Disintegration so much. Plainsong, the opener, has like 4 minutes of lush repetitive ambience before you hear his voice, a simple refrain. The next track, pictures of you goes like 3 and a half minutes before lyrics. And the back half of that album has A LOT of that.
And yeah, I know what you mean though. A Forest, Pornography, Faith... they rule.
Yep. Check out this, from Head on the Door, my favorite song on that album: Push. Performed live in 1986 CHECK OUT THE BASS VI PLAYING!
— Matt "tha Kat" Lentz
Skippy and the Skipjacks: 2018-2020
Skippyandtheskipjacks.net
https://www.facebook.com/skippyandtheskipjacks
Otto and the Ottomans: 2014-2015
The Coconauts surf band: 2009-2014
www.theamazingcoconauts.com
Group Captain and the Mandrakes 2013
http://www.gcmband.com/
The Surfside IV: 2002-2005, 2008-2009
the Del-Vamps: 1992-1999, 2006-2007
http://www.dblcrown.com/delvamps.html
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JakeDobner
Joined: Feb 26, 2006
Posts: 12159
Seattle
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Posted on Feb 27 2014 11:17 PM
Love that song! Porl going to town on that thing.
Also, regarding the pickups question I posted earlier. Those are the '65 pickups that Dave W. has raved about. I'll pick up a set of those to put in my Burgundy Mist Jag and put the AVRI '62s in the VI.
Any suggestion should I get a neck or bridge pickup to go in the middle position of the VI?
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Matt22
Joined: Feb 15, 2007
Posts: 2825
Fredericksburg, Virginia
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Posted on Feb 27 2014 11:21 PM
Yeah, Porl lasted pretty long with the Cure. I used to hate him because he'd change guitars for every single song live. Judging by how he plays the Bass VI, I'm now convinced he probably needed to. LOL
I'd go for another neck pickup. I tend to favor neck pickups, though.
I've not heard the '65 pups, so I can't say. I've never even played the new reissues.
— Matt "tha Kat" Lentz
Skippy and the Skipjacks: 2018-2020
Skippyandtheskipjacks.net
https://www.facebook.com/skippyandtheskipjacks
Otto and the Ottomans: 2014-2015
The Coconauts surf band: 2009-2014
www.theamazingcoconauts.com
Group Captain and the Mandrakes 2013
http://www.gcmband.com/
The Surfside IV: 2002-2005, 2008-2009
the Del-Vamps: 1992-1999, 2006-2007
http://www.dblcrown.com/delvamps.html
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JakeDobner
Joined: Feb 26, 2006
Posts: 12159
Seattle
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Posted on Feb 27 2014 11:25 PM
And then he got that awful looking Schecter, shaved his head, got the awful tattoos/face paint and makes you wish for the balding guy with stringy hair that changed guitars on every track!
He had a gorgeous ES-345!
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Matt22
Joined: Feb 15, 2007
Posts: 2825
Fredericksburg, Virginia
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Posted on Feb 27 2014 11:29 PM
I didn't know that was Porl!!!
Anyway, The Cure did awesome instrumentals. And, yes, A Forest was one of my favorite singles by them. This was the B-Side that I never saw anywhere else. GREAT tune and GREAT bass line!
— Matt "tha Kat" Lentz
Skippy and the Skipjacks: 2018-2020
Skippyandtheskipjacks.net
https://www.facebook.com/skippyandtheskipjacks
Otto and the Ottomans: 2014-2015
The Coconauts surf band: 2009-2014
www.theamazingcoconauts.com
Group Captain and the Mandrakes 2013
http://www.gcmband.com/
The Surfside IV: 2002-2005, 2008-2009
the Del-Vamps: 1992-1999, 2006-2007
http://www.dblcrown.com/delvamps.html
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JakeDobner
Joined: Feb 26, 2006
Posts: 12159
Seattle
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Posted on Feb 27 2014 11:35 PM
How could you know that was Porl? It looks nothing like him, just jeebus...
Back when b-sides actually existed... and some were better than the real deal. Amenesic by Radiohead is the last album I remember with b-sides that weren't just "we have some throwaway track the band didn't really finish that we might as well release"
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Matt22
Joined: Feb 15, 2007
Posts: 2825
Fredericksburg, Virginia
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Posted on Feb 28 2014 09:03 AM
Some of my favorite tunes have been B-sides and it's a shame the demise of the single has done away with the creative ideas that went on the flip sides of releases.
The Smiths and the Damned had a great deal of B-sides that were great in the 80s before vinyl disappeared. I stopped buying a lot of singles for bands when the B-side was just another track from the album.
— Matt "tha Kat" Lentz
Skippy and the Skipjacks: 2018-2020
Skippyandtheskipjacks.net
https://www.facebook.com/skippyandtheskipjacks
Otto and the Ottomans: 2014-2015
The Coconauts surf band: 2009-2014
www.theamazingcoconauts.com
Group Captain and the Mandrakes 2013
http://www.gcmband.com/
The Surfside IV: 2002-2005, 2008-2009
the Del-Vamps: 1992-1999, 2006-2007
http://www.dblcrown.com/delvamps.html
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JakeDobner
Joined: Feb 26, 2006
Posts: 12159
Seattle
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Posted on Feb 28 2014 09:32 AM
Definitely the Smiths! New Order had some pretty good ones as well. In my time, Oasis has the best b-sides. Remarkably better than a lot of their studio output because Noel would sing instead of Liam. Weezer as well, before they became shit.
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zzero
Joined: Jul 09, 2010
Posts: 1153
Lillian Alabama
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Posted on Mar 01 2014 04:08 PM
jake, ok! i'll do it!!
one in surf green would be cool!
— Enjoying the surf,sun and sand!!
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Matt22
Joined: Feb 15, 2007
Posts: 2825
Fredericksburg, Virginia
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Posted on Mar 01 2014 04:12 PM
Join the VI cult! We have Kool-Aid!
— Matt "tha Kat" Lentz
Skippy and the Skipjacks: 2018-2020
Skippyandtheskipjacks.net
https://www.facebook.com/skippyandtheskipjacks
Otto and the Ottomans: 2014-2015
The Coconauts surf band: 2009-2014
www.theamazingcoconauts.com
Group Captain and the Mandrakes 2013
http://www.gcmband.com/
The Surfside IV: 2002-2005, 2008-2009
the Del-Vamps: 1992-1999, 2006-2007
http://www.dblcrown.com/delvamps.html
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Ariel
Joined: Aug 29, 2009
Posts: 1556
Israel
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Posted on Mar 01 2014 04:35 PM
We then all play The Big E and go to Jake's special planet, where he harvests vintage Fender parts out of our bodies. That's why he insists on that other thread that guy doesn't make it a Baritone.
Since I'm already halfway suicidal here with all the Cure nostalgia anyway... I see no harm in accepting Jake as Venerable Humble Leader. He's got spunk.
Would he benefit us with his OCD and provide some pics? And why the rewiring, any mods (except PU's) or just to make it nice?
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CrazyAces
Joined: Jul 31, 2012
Posts: 4052
Nashville, TN.
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Posted on Mar 01 2014 05:09 PM
I keep trying not to read this thread but you guys aren't making it easy.
And to think I just got a Musicians Friend Gift Certificate for my birthday.......
I like some flavors of cool aid......
— http://www.facebook.com/CrazyAcesMusic
http://www.youtube.com/user/crazyacesrock
http://www.reverbnation.com/crazyacesmusic
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JakeDobner
Joined: Feb 26, 2006
Posts: 12159
Seattle
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Posted on Mar 01 2014 05:10 PM
Just to make it nicer, my Jag AVRI could use new pickups so I am donating its pickups to the VI. I always like to replace with CTS pots, try out a funky capacitor on the tone pot, and just make things a little nicer/neater. I haven't taken the pickguard off yet, but I imagine it could maybe use some extra shielding. It is getting a new pickguard anyways, so might as well make a new harness. I intend to gig with it someday, so I really want to know what the parts are and know they are reliable against drops, transport, temperature, etc...
Also, current pickups are just every so slightly microphonic on the VI. Not enough to bother, but do make good noise when tapped or when the body is tapped.
I humbly accept leadership of our Bass VI cult. I will lead us into a time of ruin and turmoil that will make us all better people. My fear, if I lead us down a path of prosperity and happiness is that it turns us into smug yuppies.
I'm only OCD about having the volumes in my car stereo and amp for my record player at even numbers.
Also, not gonna miss with the sliding switches, those are too pricey. I'm being cheap! I'll replace the capacitor on the strangle switch as I can't notice it working... Thinking of adding a resistor as a treble bleed mod... I've read about it, but don't quite understand the science.
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crumble
Joined: Sep 09, 2008
Posts: 3158
Guildford England
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Posted on Mar 02 2014 06:16 AM
I'm not going through 16 pages to find out if Billy Strange is mentioned in the thread. Sorry! Eyes left in this photo.
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morphball
Joined: Dec 23, 2008
Posts: 3324
Pittsboro, NC
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Posted on Mar 02 2014 09:00 AM
Nope I don't think he was, what a gross oversight that was.
— Mike
http://www.youtube.com/morphballio
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Matt22
Joined: Feb 15, 2007
Posts: 2825
Fredericksburg, Virginia
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Posted on Mar 02 2014 09:44 AM
morphball wrote:
Twenty people on Bass VI's playing "The Lonely Surfer"...
Strange that Billy was left out ;-). I went through the pages too and now it looks like this could actually happen!
— Matt "tha Kat" Lentz
Skippy and the Skipjacks: 2018-2020
Skippyandtheskipjacks.net
https://www.facebook.com/skippyandtheskipjacks
Otto and the Ottomans: 2014-2015
The Coconauts surf band: 2009-2014
www.theamazingcoconauts.com
Group Captain and the Mandrakes 2013
http://www.gcmband.com/
The Surfside IV: 2002-2005, 2008-2009
the Del-Vamps: 1992-1999, 2006-2007
http://www.dblcrown.com/delvamps.html
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morphball
Joined: Dec 23, 2008
Posts: 3324
Pittsboro, NC
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Posted on Mar 02 2014 10:13 AM
Bah... I can only remember the last 3 pages of any thread, including my own posts.
— Mike
http://www.youtube.com/morphballio
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Matt22
Joined: Feb 15, 2007
Posts: 2825
Fredericksburg, Virginia
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Posted on Mar 02 2014 10:46 AM
You think any of us do?
— Matt "tha Kat" Lentz
Skippy and the Skipjacks: 2018-2020
Skippyandtheskipjacks.net
https://www.facebook.com/skippyandtheskipjacks
Otto and the Ottomans: 2014-2015
The Coconauts surf band: 2009-2014
www.theamazingcoconauts.com
Group Captain and the Mandrakes 2013
http://www.gcmband.com/
The Surfside IV: 2002-2005, 2008-2009
the Del-Vamps: 1992-1999, 2006-2007
http://www.dblcrown.com/delvamps.html
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JakeDobner
Joined: Feb 26, 2006
Posts: 12159
Seattle
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Posted on Mar 02 2014 10:47 AM
Just to make it nicer, my Jag AVRI could use new pickups so I am donating its pickups to the VI. I always like to replace with CTS pots, try out a funky capacitor on the tone pot, and just make things a little nicer/neater. I haven't taken the pickguard off yet, but I imagine it could maybe use some extra shielding. It is getting a new pickguard anyways, so might as well make a new harness. I intend to gig with it someday, so I really want to know what the parts are and know they are reliable against drops, transport, temperature, etc...
Also, current pickups are just every so slightly microphonic on the VI. Not enough to bother, but do make good noise when tapped or when the body is tapped.
I humbly accept leadership of our Bass VI cult. I will lead us into a time of ruin and turmoil that will make us all better people. My fear, if I lead us down a path of prosperity and happiness is that it turns us into smug yuppies.
I'm only OCD about having the volumes in my car stereo and amp for my record player at even numbers.
Also, not gonna miss with the sliding switches, those are too pricey. I'm being cheap! I'll replace the capacitor on the strangle switch as I can't notice it working... Thinking of adding a resistor as a treble bleed mod... I've read about it, but don't quite understand the science.
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