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Stormtiger

Joined: Dec 12, 2006
Posts: 2682
Ventura, CA
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Posted on Apr 12 2007 02:04 PM

Yikes! Who would have known that an EL34 tube thread could lead to such combative posturing. That is the meanest thread I've seen here so far. We're all here to share ideas and learn from each other so we need different opinions. But if you are going to be blunt and say something sucks or "is shit", how about backing that up with something. Otherwise it is just being juvenille, dogmatic, meaningless and insulting--who needs that?

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Brian

Joined: Feb 25, 2006
Posts: 19278
Des Moines, Iowa, USA
United States

Posted on Apr 12 2007 03:02 PM

You have to give people a lot of leeway on these forums and not be so defensive. Give the other guy the benefit of the doubt. A typo or a badly phrased sentence can be taken the wrong way so quickly and then it spirals out of control. And then you end up scaring away the experts like Phil Dirt, John Blair, Dave Wronski, etc that we can all really learn from. I've seen this happen on other email lists and Yahoo Groups. That's why I think it is important to be civil even in disagreements.

A lot of us have strongly held opinions and aren't afraid to say so. That's fine but let's please be civil about it. Thanks.

(I often wonder how humanity as a whole accomplishes anything. It seems so hard to work together and cooperate on anything)

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ToneBoy

Joined: Feb 17, 2007
Posts: 281
Murfreesboro, TN
United States

Posted on Apr 12 2007 03:17 PM

Since I notice that your head remains round, even after repeatedly beating it against the flat surface of your computer desk (your icon), I would like to think that even when humans are at their worst or experience their worst, hope still lies within us. Personally, I love this site... occasional wart and all.

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WR

Joined: Feb 27, 2006
Posts: 3832
netherlands
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Posted on Apr 12 2007 03:19 PM

I agree 100%, but also, kudos to the people involved in that thread for taking a step back, saying sorry and moving on.

I guess that's how humaity as a whole accomplishes things. or should.

WR

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Brian

Joined: Feb 25, 2006
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Des Moines, Iowa, USA
United States

Posted on Apr 12 2007 03:23 PM

I was going to say that music has a lot to do with it, because liking it is so personal and subjective. But then I realized even computer scientists argue just as passionately about which algorithm or data structure you should use to solve a problem.

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mom_surfing

Joined: Feb 27, 2006
Posts: 5300
the outer banks of north carolina
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Posted on Apr 12 2007 04:04 PM

i'm getting ready to leave on a 10 day surf trip and when i come back i want to see all smiling faces here

mom

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Joelman

Joined: Sep 07, 2006
Posts: 1488
Redlands, CA
United States

Posted on Apr 12 2007 04:09 PM

Ok MOM.

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Brian

Joined: Feb 25, 2006
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Des Moines, Iowa, USA
United States

Posted on Apr 12 2007 04:29 PM

Always do what mom says.

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Wraydar

Joined: Apr 21, 2006
Posts: 265
San Antonio, TX

Posted on Apr 12 2007 05:06 PM

Hehe

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Stormtiger Joined: Dec 12, 2006 Posts: 2682 Ventura, CA	Posted on Apr 12 2007 02:04 PM Yikes! Who would have known that an EL34 tube thread could lead to such combative posturing. That is the meanest thread I've seen here so far. We're all here to share ideas and learn from each other so we need different opinions. But if you are going to be blunt and say something sucks or "is shit", how about backing that up with something. Otherwise it is just being juvenille, dogmatic, meaningless and insulting--who needs that? Top
Brian Joined: Feb 25, 2006 Posts: 19278 Des Moines, Iowa, USA	Posted on Apr 12 2007 03:02 PM You have to give people a lot of leeway on these forums and not be so defensive. Give the other guy the benefit of the doubt. A typo or a badly phrased sentence can be taken the wrong way so quickly and then it spirals out of control. And then you end up scaring away the experts like Phil Dirt, John Blair, Dave Wronski, etc that we can all really learn from. I've seen this happen on other email lists and Yahoo Groups. That's why I think it is important to be civil even in disagreements. A lot of us have strongly held opinions and aren't afraid to say so. That's fine but let's please be civil about it. Thanks. (I often wonder how humanity as a whole accomplishes anything. It seems so hard to work together and cooperate on anything) — Site dude - S3 Agent #202 Need help with the site? SG101 FAQ - Send me a private message - Email me "It starts... when it begins" -- Ralf Kilauea Top
ToneBoy Joined: Feb 17, 2007 Posts: 281 Murfreesboro, TN	Posted on Apr 12 2007 03:17 PM Since I notice that your head remains round, even after repeatedly beating it against the flat surface of your computer desk (your icon), I would like to think that even when humans are at their worst or experience their worst, hope still lies within us. Personally, I love this site... occasional wart and all. — Ron (ToneBoy) The Mariners (1964 to Present) www.myspace.com/themarinersfirstwave Lonzo & Oscar (1999 to Present) www.lonzoandoscar.net www.myspace.com/lonzoandoscarcomedy Billy Henson & Summerstorm (2001 to Present) Top
WR Joined: Feb 27, 2006 Posts: 3832 netherlands	Posted on Apr 12 2007 03:19 PM I agree 100%, but also, kudos to the people involved in that thread for taking a step back, saying sorry and moving on. I guess that's how humaity as a whole accomplishes things. or should. WR — Rules to live by #314: "When in Italy, if the menu says something's grilled, don't assume it is." https://www.facebook.com/The-Malbehavers-286429584796173/ Top
Brian Joined: Feb 25, 2006 Posts: 19278 Des Moines, Iowa, USA	Posted on Apr 12 2007 03:23 PM I was going to say that music has a lot to do with it, because liking it is so personal and subjective. But then I realized even computer scientists argue just as passionately about which algorithm or data structure you should use to solve a problem. — Site dude - S3 Agent #202 Need help with the site? SG101 FAQ - Send me a private message - Email me "It starts... when it begins" -- Ralf Kilauea Top
mom_surfing Joined: Feb 27, 2006 Posts: 5300 the outer banks of north carolina	Posted on Apr 12 2007 04:04 PM i'm getting ready to leave on a 10 day surf trip and when i come back i want to see all smiling faces here mom — www.surfintheeye.com Top
Joelman Joined: Sep 07, 2006 Posts: 1488 Redlands, CA	Posted on Apr 12 2007 04:09 PM Ok MOM. J EL Top
Brian Joined: Feb 25, 2006 Posts: 19278 Des Moines, Iowa, USA	Posted on Apr 12 2007 04:29 PM Always do what mom says. — Site dude - S3 Agent #202 Need help with the site? SG101 FAQ - Send me a private message - Email me "It starts... when it begins" -- Ralf Kilauea Top
Wraydar Joined: Apr 21, 2006 Posts: 265 San Antonio, TX	Posted on Apr 12 2007 05:06 PM Hehe — <img src="klzzwxh:0000"></img> Top

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