WR
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netherlands
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Posted on Apr 11 2007 07:02 AM
Do you keep (a) guitars stand(s) on stage for spare guitars?
I know one should, it's better for the guitars etc etc blah blah, I just find guitars in a stand on stage looks so tacky. Curious what you all think about this intersting and relevant issue
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Rick_Volcano
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Detroit
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Posted on Apr 11 2007 07:35 AM
I think it's a practical way to keep a back-up guitar handy. I never thought it loooked bad. I like to see guitars!
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Surfgitar
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Ft. Lauderdale, Florida
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Posted on Apr 11 2007 08:52 AM
I find it's also a good way to keep my guitar out of harms way in-between sets.
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IronMaiden
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Virginia Beach
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Posted on Apr 11 2007 09:19 AM
I like to take my guitar out of its case as soon as possible to let it acclimate to the rooms ambient temps.
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NoisyDad
Joined: Mar 04, 2006
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West Hartford, CT
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Posted on Apr 11 2007 09:35 AM
Being as my band has no road crew to hand us a spare guitar when we break a string, it's nice to have the spare handy on a stand nearby.
Also, we have some cool-looking guitars that add some eye-candy to our stage setup.
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diceophonic
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PacNW (Vancouver, Wa U.S.A.)
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Posted on Apr 11 2007 10:03 AM
As a profesional musician in general I don't thank about it or sweat the small stuff or think it's tacky it just becomes a part of my routing or ones tradition, WR if you thinks it's tacky how the heck or what do you do if you have a back up on stage lay it on the ground or something?? were do you place your nice red Jaguar at before you hit the stage and show time, straped to the amp like I have seen in the past? give us some insite on your stage routing?
As we do sound check and all that good stuff the guitar has to go somewhere especialy that I'm playin' a vintage Jaguar I need a stand to place my guitar after sound check till I'm ready to hit the stage as well as my backup sits on a stand depending on the stage and how big my guitars will site way back at the back of the stage in safety, one just has to have a stand of somekind, and for years if you don;t like the big stands there are some nice stands that make the guitar float like what the heck is holding that guitar up right.
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diceophonic
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PacNW (Vancouver, Wa U.S.A.)
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Posted on Apr 11 2007 10:11 AM
Surfgitar
I find it's also a good way to keep my guitar out of harms way in-between sets.
Amen to that, protect your investment is what I say
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eddiekatcher
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Atlanta, GA
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Posted on Apr 11 2007 11:11 AM
I'll always carry and use the folding A-frame stands (even carry one for slack guy Rich). I always try to put my 2nd guitar in some safe, out of the way place so as to not knock it over. My one and only true vintage guitar, my '68 Les Paul Custom is on it's second neck due to it being knocked over during a break back in '72 which broke the head off right at the nut. When I'm NOT using a stand, say at practice, I turn the guitar to face the amp if I lean it up on the amp, to avoid denting the back of the neck on the amp knobs.....learned that from experience....ed
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WR
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netherlands
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Posted on Apr 11 2007 05:43 PM
wow, this one actually got a few responses. too much fun.
really though, here's a few of my considerations
the tacky thing must be cultural. I havent seen many band in the clubcircuit here use stands, yet you see them a lot with top 100 coverbands.
stands, I trip over them on stage, they are ways in the way. I put my guitars up against the wall, or my amp, or whatever is around. preshow it's usually against the amp. a backup I put on the side of the stage or behind the amps. If I break a string grabbing a new one quick is the least of my worries, and also we usually have a roadie (aka friend) around who will do the guitar dutie. but really, I hardly ever break strings anymore.
also, I never had a guitar fall over on stage, Ive had guitars fall over with rehearsal (this was before I drove to rehearsal, do the math) but as many times Ive had guitars fall from stands or people walk into them etc.
but the biggest part, you all gonna hate me for this, I dont seem to care that much. It's the guitars destiny to make my life easier, it's not my destiny to make the guitar's life easier.
I dont mean that as rock attitude, I actually wish it was different, it's just a sort of introspective observation about my personality just like I make the resolution from time to time to wipe my strings after playing, and roll up my chords neatly... (or for that matter, to put my laundry in the laundry basket, or to fold my clothes) it's just not me.
Id probably be more carefull with a hollowbody. Im not one to own a near mint original '62 jag. and Id never pay what they go for, Id hate to have to treat it like a museum piece, and I probably wouldnt. I used to have a '78 paulie which was worth some, and or which I got great offers all the time, but it fell all the time and lost quite a few chips of paint. like I said, it's just not me to treat these babies like babies.
as for the nice red jag, just two weeks ago I was taking some stuff off from the open attic over my study and a 25"x25" heavy mofo plank fell off.... and landed sort of on the jag. huge bump in the body but the neck was spared and so was all the hardware. to my own surprize the bad mood about the bump lasted about 5 seconds. and then it was "oh well".
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diceophonic
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PacNW (Vancouver, Wa U.S.A.)
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Posted on Apr 11 2007 06:20 PM
With all do respect to those over seas 1st I play reissues I own a few and they are treated with the same care and respect as my vintage, when a guitar falls it may cause damage to the neck or get the guitar out of tune after it has been tuned, it's a pain in the ass, sometimes gravity will nock your guitar over or some idiot walks by and wham "Sorry dude" and 2nd I always trim the slack when I change my strings hint your guitar will stay in tune a bit better then rolled slack or at least that's what I have noticed 3rd my vintage Jaguar is not a museum piece it was built to be played my fellow band mates and friends freak out that I play and take out on the road/club, I don't care it's not a musuem piece any more and it was worth every penny and an honor to own a vintage piece, You own a vintage amp "SF Bassman so you know what I'm talking about? over here in the states 90% of the bands in all genres use guitar stands of some kind even if there big time or not it doesn't make a musician a cheese ball or Un- professional or odd for having or using a guitar stand on stage/home, guitar stands play the same roll as a case it keeps it from harms way besides displaying, guitars are just like cars and many other things in life, you maintian them tune them up so they will last for years to come, and costly repairs and no one wants that, in return a lifetime of enjoying your musical instrument, for me I am not looking for resale but for keeps. I would do this even with a cheap guitar..... speaking for my self no I don't think of my guitar/instrument as my babie I just love my guitars and respect them nothing wrong with that it's not about being a punk or a rocker even the rockenest of rockers manage to give them as much care as we do but they have road crews. even the working musician has to take care of there instrument that's how they make thier bread and butter so they need reliable gear.
You katz in Europe have your ways and and beliefs and work ethics, your ways our not our ways and I respect that and so do we
with all good intention
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ShaunNecro
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Bay City (Michigan)
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Posted on Apr 11 2007 07:26 PM
I always put my basses on stands. I payed money for them, so it seems silly to me to not take great care of it. If it isn't on a stand, it's in my case.
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JakeDobner
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Seattle
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Posted on Apr 11 2007 08:14 PM
I carry a stand so I never have to have two guitars leaning against my amp. If I only played with one guitar I wouldn't bother with a stand. It is no danger nor problem to lean your guitar against something.
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revmike
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North Atlantic
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Posted on Apr 11 2007 08:50 PM
I have one of those 3 gtr stands: One for my Strat, one for the baritone, and the bass player usually puts his bass in the 3rd spot.
Rev
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dp
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mojave desert, california
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Posted on Apr 11 2007 09:31 PM
when I play at gigs, my bass (or guitar) is either on me...or in the case...
I don't worry too much about "the spare", it's tuned and in its case if needed...which is, like never.
too many drunk idiots at gigs that can damage or steal guitars on stands...it's hard enough keeping the sound guy's beer bottles and water bottles off of my amp and speakers!
...stands are cool in the studio or at home, on stage it's just one more thing to trip over.
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MikeG
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Springfield, Oregon
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Posted on Apr 11 2007 09:58 PM
Thinkin' about gettin' us some bikini-clad chicks to hold our guitars when we aren't playing them.
The guitars I mean.
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JakeDobner
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Seattle
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Posted on Apr 11 2007 10:25 PM
MikeG
Thinkin' about gettin' us some bikini-clad chicks to hold our guitars when we aren't playing them.
The guitars I mean.
I disagree. I don't want to see a scantly clad woman in a dirty club. Dirty dirty girl. And we are surf musicians so we don't play anywhere other than dirty clubs.
Who was at the Seattle Pilgrims show? The Mercury IVs dancers were an eyesore to look at. They probably aren't very ugly in real life but I couldn't handle those two. Even if she didn't have that caesarian scar.
Oh yeah, and womens lib and all that stuff.
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Klas
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Stockholm, Sweden
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Posted on Apr 12 2007 04:33 AM
We never used any guitar stands on stage in the Daytonas. Coming to think of it, we didn't carry any backup guitars either for that matter. More than once the other guitar player had to replace a string in the middle of a set while the rest of us drank beer waiting for him to get ready again...
BTW, I played a vintage mid 60s Jaguar on every show with the Daytonas (except for the California tour and maybe 5 other shows) and never broke a string on stage.
(Stockholm, 1994)
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WR
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netherlands
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Posted on Apr 12 2007 05:58 AM
diceophonic
with all good intention
that goes without saying Kyle! to be honest, Im a bit confused about this. if you'd ask me are you careful with your stuff, Id say yes. I have a case not a gigbag for the jag cause of the delicate tremsystem, no smoking around our studio gear, and drinks on amps are an absolute no go. but at the same time, I have to admit Im not really careful with guitars, and if Im honest, I dont want to be. too much hassle, and to me, guitars are things. and mine arent even unique things. I dont treat them with respect, people deserve respect, not things. I might treat them with care, I dont damage them purposely or do stupid things with 'em like throw 'em around or set 'em on fire. but I only give the level of care that comes naturally, and only if it doesnt get in the way of my normal way of doing things.
financially, that's a completely stupid philosophy, I know. but hey, money is means to have a life, life's not a means to make money.
it's funny you should bring up cars. you should see mine. I mean, Im a careful driver out on the road, but when I put the mofo in reverse, all you parking meters best beware something I really couldnt care less about.
as for
You katz in Europe have your ways and and beliefs and work ethics, your ways our not our ways
I think that's too broad a generalization to hold, but it might well be the difference between you and me! nonetheless!!
WR
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Anonymous
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Posted on Apr 12 2007 07:16 PM
see the two fellas to the left? that is why i never used guitar stands at the gigs. rarely even brought 2 guitars to the gig also. once i stopped trying to be pete townsend, i stopped breaking strings. whatever. peace
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