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Hello. This is my first posting to an SG101 forum! yay! haha. anyways. I was wondering if anyone of you can show me how to get the same bass tone as Bob Bogle's bass tone? And this including the effect he uses for the 'Caravan' bass solo.

This is what I only know for now...
Mosrite Bass
Fender __ amp and cab (I dunno if its Showman, Band Master, or Bassman).

Thanks everyone!

I believe during that tour Bob Bogle mostly used a Bassman amp, while Nokie and Don played through single 15" Showmans. At least that's what's indicated in the pictures I've seen, and in the Beloved Invaders video. They also used Japanese Guyatone piggyback amps as well, as per "The Ventures on Stage" album that supposedly was not a live album at all. Not sure I subscribe to that theory, though.

The bass solo sound in Caravan you are referring to was Mel Taylor drumming on Bogle's E string. They always used to do this song in their concerts back in the day. Some will disagree, but I much prefer the version of Caravan that is on the aforementioned (and hard to find on CD - thanks IronMaiden!) "On Stage" album. The Guyatone piggybacks are shown on this album cover, while the Fenders are on the "Live in '65 one".

Here's a pic of that album cover:

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Hope this helps!

Jack Booth
(aka WoodyJ)

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Last edited: Apr 01, 2007 09:20:13

Roundwound strings would be the most important thing in this equation. It appears that he was using a blonde Bassman on stage, but i believe the debate here is whether or not these amps were Japanese copies. No effect on Caravan from what I hear.

Really, just play a Mosrite Bass (neck pickup if a two pickup model) through a tube amp running wide open. Instant Bogle in Japan...

Ha, cool. I guess it IS the Mosrite sound. Im trying to get the same sound through my P bass with some foot pedals. I even add a little bit of overdrive to get that sound but its still nowhere close.

About the "solo" on carvan.

WoodyJ says "The bass solo sound in Caravan you are referring to was Mel Taylor drumming on Bogle's E string."

I think maybe we are referring to a different section. But you know how the drums play a solo first right? And then the bass comes in playing a few riffs on A and then Bob does that muted glissando thing on the bass from A up the neck of the bass and then back down (usually at this part, the crowd cheers haha). But, the thing is, i am thinking, how does he get that great clicking sound? It sounds like a fuzz pedal but is that really a fuzz pedal?

Anyways, thank you guys for your quick replies. and I am going to try out the flatwounds for my bass! And when i have enough money, Ill get a Mosrite too! Thanks for the picture WoodyJ!

Here's a similar thread:
Ventures 65 Japan Tone

I think the conclusion was Mosrites+totally cranked Fender amps=Best tone ever.

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