heepeejeep
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Posted on Aug 29 2013 02:58 AM
Well, Black Metal has been Norway's largest export in music for a couple of decades so it's interesting to discover that someone's taking time and effort in covering bands like Burzum, Darkthrone, Mayhem etc. with surfer versions.
(almost there with the clip "The Darkthrones - Californian Hunger" and "The Beherits - The surf of Nanna") Haha..
Org. 1960's Trve Kvlt Music
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togergo
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Posted on Aug 29 2013 03:54 AM
the mayhem cover is my old favorite 
— original compositions (low-level demo stuff /out of tune, etc) myStuff not my best, but i don't like to be in a musician community without anything to show
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morphball
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Posted on Aug 29 2013 07:49 AM
We discussed these a while back, and I still think they're brilliant.
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Brian
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Posted on Aug 29 2013 08:01 AM
morphball wrote:
We discussed these a while back, and I still think they're brilliant.
Ha-ha, we did:
http://surfguitar101.com/forums/topic/12850/
http://surfguitar101.com/forums/topic/13469/
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heepeejeep
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Posted on Aug 29 2013 09:07 AM
Sorry, this is new to me and I did'nt know this being a topic in the past.
Funny how someone mentions The Fender IV's in the earlier post's, I was thinking the same thing when listening to the cut "The Emperors - I am the Surf Wizards".
Well, so who did all this, anyone in here maybe?
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morphball
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Posted on Aug 29 2013 09:17 AM
No one has ever come forward, and I wish they would! It obviously isn't for everyone, but I really have to admire the time and imagination they put into this.
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heepeejeep
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Posted on Sep 15 2013 05:47 PM
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klob
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Posted on Sep 17 2013 08:59 AM
That article is awesome. We have an Ulver cover on the back burner, better get working on it!
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morphball
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Posted on Sep 17 2013 09:23 AM
Did anyone notice the great Slayer cover mentioned in the article Rudi posted?
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bigtikidude
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Posted on Sep 17 2013 09:55 AM
Not perfect, but interesting.
I like the keys as vocals,
But strange how they did other lines.
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surferXmatt
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Posted on Sep 17 2013 02:22 PM
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HallmarkSweptWinger
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Posted on Sep 17 2013 02:33 PM
morphball wrote:
Did anyone notice the great Slayer cover mentioned in the article Rudi posted?
Oh! Very nice version! I like it!
To the video: Does ANYBODY know every movie / scene in this????
Many well known movies for me but a few scenes I never saw before.
Is there ANY moviefreak here who can list all the movies in the video easily?
Would be nice!
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psychonaut
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Posted on Sep 17 2013 02:34 PM
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bigtikidude
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Posted on Sep 17 2013 06:55 PM
Bwahahahaha!!!
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Gamma_Anteria
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Posted on Jan 15 2014 12:54 PM
Disclosure time! Or something....
I made the original Surf Black Metal tracks back in 2010. I had a Youtube channel with the monicker Mrmeddled. The 'Meddle' came from the Pink Floyd album, and Youtube added 'Mr' because there was already a 'Meddle' on there. Not a great start.
At the time I was sharing a house with three other guys. I was a student in my 3rd year at college. I got the idea of setting black metal tunes to a surf sound one night when I couldn't sleep. That was it.
As for the recordings, I used two guitars. One was an Aria Strat copy I had fitted a hotrails pickup (Artec I think) to the bridge position of. The other was an SG copy with repro PAF pickups and a bigsby vibrato. My pedals at the time were pretty sparing. I had a Zoom G2, an Ashdown bass drive that I used on guitar, an Arion EQ pedal and a Marshall delay pedal. I recorded all the tracks by looping a sampled drum rhythm from a borrowed Yamaha keyboard then recording each instrument, in mono, via the microphone jack on my laptop. I recorded everything to Audacity. As my laptop had latency issues I usually had to manually trim tracks to sit on the beat correctly, and even then there would be goofs where the audio was not recorded correctly. I mixed everything to have the thin, hollow sound of black metal coupled with the primitive, and sometimes lop-sided mixing of early stereo surf tracks. That was it. The 'trumpet' and organ parts went on last. I borrowed a Juno synth to fill in these parts, choosing a Farfisa-type organ patch and using the Zoom pedal to add the wide tremolo effect. No track took longer than an hour to record, "mix", etc etc... it took longer to upload them to Youtube via our heavily used Wifi connection.
I recorded them firstly to show to friends as a joke. I did I am the Black Wizards by Emperor first as it was a tune we listened to a lot when we would get together. I don't think I called it "I am the surf wizards". By the time I was done with my Youtube channel it had 50k+ views, and a few people had ripped the audio and made 'mirror' videos which also had plenty of views. For a while I entertained requests, which I got fairly often, but I thought it was a joke that was getting propagated too far. It did elicit responses from elitist metalheads (including one on this forum I see), which is always good. Always fun having 18 year old kids telling me I am selling a genre down the river for a cheap laugh...
My mistake was to use my regular Youtube account. One user got mightily offended that I had mixed the audio badly on the surf metal videos and took to following me around. As I tended to post on a wide range of videos I started getting bombarded with random posts, usually about how poorly I EQ'd the drums, or other buffoonery. At that point I had also applied for an MSc at university and was told that anything, Facebook and Youtube primarily, linked to my email account would be monitored. The relentless trolling, abuse, and lists of obscure 'trve cvlt' black metal bands that needed covering got tiring, fast. I never made any money from any of it, before you ask.
Any questions, or can this tired meme be put to bed already?
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morphball
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Posted on Jan 16 2014 07:34 AM
Welcome to SG101, and thanks for the background on these! I'd say most of us took these tracks in the spirit that was intended, even those of us not really familiar with the black metal bands you covered. I guess your sleep deprivation answered the "why surf?" question, but I was wondering if you researched first wave (or even newer) instro surf music to get that sound? Or was it just based on a more pop culture idea of what surf sounded like to you? (I mainly ask because 2010, and some would argue the entire decade leading up to it, was hardly a big year for the genre... perhaps it was even several times more obscure than Norwegian black metal.)
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heepeejeep
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Posted on Jan 16 2014 04:17 PM
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Gamma_Anteria
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Posted on Jan 18 2014 08:24 AM
morphball wrote:
Welcome to SG101, and thanks for the background on these! I'd say most of us took these tracks in the spirit that was intended, even those of us not really familiar with the black metal bands you covered. I guess your sleep deprivation answered the "why surf?" question, but I was wondering if you researched first wave (or even newer) instro surf music to get that sound? Or was it just based on a more pop culture idea of what surf sounded like to you? (I mainly ask because 2010, and some would argue the entire decade leading up to it, was hardly a big year for the genre... perhaps it was even several times more obscure than Norwegian black metal.)
An interesting question... I was aware of surf music but I hadn't immersed myself in it. I figured it was a crapshoot, because some of the stuff I downloaded (naughtily) sounded a lot like a guy with a Strat and a casio keyboard. I guess such a niche genre is going to be full of opportunists and delusional artists, much like metal for that matter... I would say the story is no different with black metal. I was no massive fan but I heard enough to get the gist (or the confidence to believe I got the gist). I hadn't researched surf music that much, but I had listened to a lot of surf music 'in the background' thanks to a friend who had grown up in California and heard a lot via his parents. The most standout track that I remember listening to at the time was Pipeline by the Chantay,s and the lopsided mix on that track was something I was always thinking about. I guess that is an early Wurlitzer electric piano buried off to one side of the mix? I really liked that piano tone. We all used to listen to that, and Bombora by the Atlantics a lot. I could never figure out how to make a guitar sound that clean but cut through everything without any overdrive or distortion. I presume it has something to do with pickup placement and the winding direction on the pickup coils and stuff, as well as smart EQing and compression. I've no idea what gear the Atlantics were using however, or what studio equipment they had at their disposal....
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morphball
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Posted on Jan 18 2014 10:04 PM
Hah, awesome that The Atlantics were part of your early exposure; I think if I had heard them as a metal-loving teen in the 80's, it may have become an obsession for me way sooner! As you can probably imagine, we have pages and pages of discussion about the surf sound, but the distinct tonality you hear is probably primarily due to outboard reverb units. Also, in the Dick Dale school of playing, surf guitarists tend to crank their amps pretty loud, adding that extra bite. (Some would also add thick strings to the equation, and of course technique.) Nothing special with the pickups though- traditionally they're just Fender guitars with either stock single coils or soapbars. (Re: The Atlantics' equipment, them and many other surf bands outside of the US used tape echo instead of reverb, but otherwise similar principle.)
— Mike
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