vintagesurfdude
Joined: Nov 28, 2011
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Prescott Valley, AZ
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Posted on Jul 25 2013 10:41 AM
This is a copy of an email I recieved from Jamie Glaser ( the jazz player) in case you might be interested.
"Hi All
The music business and the record industry has changed greatly as you all know. One thing that hasn't changed is if you read music, you can always make a great living. If you read music the world opens up for you as a musician!
After hearing this musician joke for the 100th time, many times aimed at guitarists....
How do you get a musician to turn down?
Put music in front of them to read
I decided to give away the tricks and technique of what I have always done best, always made a great living from....
Sight reading and reading music.
Whether you are a guitarist or singer, drummer, or horn player its a whole different solid career when you can read music, unless of course you get in a famous band, or get lucky as a solo artist.
My new video TURN IT UP will have you reading with the best in the world with only 12 days of learning the techniques.
TURN IT UP is being released on August 10th and is set up with 3 levels for every lesson. Beginner , advanced and professional. ( all included in the video)
Audio examples, a full PDF workbook and tools as well as the video are included for 15 dollars.
For the people on my friend list I am offering TURN IT UP for $10 dollars as a pre-order and you must order by August 1st to claim this price. On August 10th you will be sent the special personal link for your video.
Let me help you to easily change your life. I am forever thankful that reading music has been my strong suit
and I so want to share what I know with you!
Please go to http://www.gotocyberschool.com/downloads.html to PRE ORDER your copy of TURN IT UP at a reduced price of only 10 dollars ( only good till August 1st)
All the best
Jamie"
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DannySnyder
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Berkeley, CA
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Posted on Jul 25 2013 10:48 AM
He's right - learn to read music. The mere act of translating music into notation will show you the many nuances involved in creating a melody that aren't apparent from just playing by ear. From learning how harmony works, and how notes relate to keys and chords, to separating the rhythmic components of the notes from the tone itself, and finally to communicate with other players exactly what you'd like them to do and for they to have you do. Artistic license is all well and good, but there are times when instruments play in tandem in a very tight fashion, and when you're "all on the same page" it helps!
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Matt22
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Fredericksburg, Virginia
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Posted on Jul 25 2013 11:21 AM
I knew how to read music at one time and then forgot it when everyone else I was playing with in bands didn't know how to do so. If one doesn't use something, one will lose it. I'd be interested in buying his tutorial just to get back in the swing of things. I remember thinking it was really cool to be able to follow along with notation, and the truly neat thing about it is it's in the same language in nearly every part of the world.
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Noel
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Back in Piitsburgh, Pennsylvania, where I grew up.
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Posted on Jul 25 2013 12:33 PM
I believe today the most short-sighted thing I ever did as a kid was sabotage my Dad's attempts to teach me to read musical notation, or at least sight-read a score. It likely contributed significantly to my decision to quit learning to play guitar. And it's holding me back again now.
I'm gonna get this package. It can't hurt and just may help a lot.
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jdmcduders
Joined: Jan 14, 2013
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Indianapolis, IN
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Posted on Jul 25 2013 12:43 PM
I've spent most of the last 6 years studying jazz. I could read music but it was slow at the beginning. Now I'm pretty good, I can't sight read great but I'm good enough that I dont need tab anymore. The best part is now I'm trying to pick up stuff that I wouldn't have even considered years ago. The people who say learning to read music and learning theory stifle your playing just don't make sense to me. Without this knowledge I would have plateaued as a player.
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midwestsurfer
Joined: Aug 09, 2007
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Indianapolis
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Posted on Jul 25 2013 02:43 PM
I definitely wished I'd learned to read music. I've certainly missed out on some opportunities over the years, most recently a job as a guitar instructor. I could try to learn now, but it would have been so much easier when I was a kid and had the luxury of free time.
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CousinMary
Joined: Nov 16, 2009
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San Francisco Bay Area
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Posted on Jul 25 2013 06:13 PM
Like most good girls in that era, I took piano lessons and can only play if I am reading music. So I always figured that I could never learn to play by ear. This topic is kind of saying the opposite (converse?) in a way. Food for thought.
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vintagesurfdude
Joined: Nov 28, 2011
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Prescott Valley, AZ
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Posted on Jul 26 2013 12:49 AM
What Jamie is saying in his ad is that the music business, as we knew it in the day, has pretty much gone to hell, but you can still make a good living if you can sight read.
If you're not familiar with Mr. Glaser, he's quite a versatile talent, I met him in Utah while I was backing a country singer whom Jamie had co-produced a CD for. His credits could fill pages. (check his bio at www.jamieglaser.com) He's a really great guy and I've pre-ordered the class and thought I'd share. Anyway it's worth a couple of minutes to check out his web site.
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casey
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Posted on Jul 26 2013 04:15 AM
I've been working through this book for years: "A Modern Method for Guitar". I think it is still being used a Berkley. It teaches you to read and does so using original music of high quality. It also includes some basic music theory. Great stuff. Being able to read has allowed me to play and arrange a lot of songs that would have been very difficult or impossible to tackle otherwise.
http://www.musiciansfriend.com/books-sheet-music-media/berklee-press-a-modern-method-for-guitar--volume-1-book-dvd-rom?source=3WWRWXGP&kwid=productads-plaid^57300142267-sku^943053000000000@ADL4MF-adType^PLA-device^c-adid^30432802827&tandt_rdir=1&aR=true
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simoncoil
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Berlin, Germany
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Posted on Jul 26 2013 04:18 AM
CousinMary, you can learn to play by ear even if you have so far been exclusively playing written music. It is just a matter of practice.
As I kid I was kind of forced by my parents to learn playing tenor horn (think of it as a small tuba), and the lessons of course included how to read music. Then as a teenager I fell in love with surf music and started playing guitar in consequence, this time only using chord symbols and tabs, but in the long run I started picking up things by ear (simply because most surf instrumentals are not available in tabs or standard notation anyway).
Then I went to university and studied musicology, which again meant reading a lot of music and also a lot of theory. Nowadays both parts play an equal role for me in writing songs and also in learning them: Having access to an abstrac level of music (which is what notation and theory are essentially) makes it far more easy to recognize patterns and relate them to what you already know.
And it definetely takes away some tension from my life that I just need to draw some dots on paper to avoid the well known problem of "What was that thing I played yesteray?" 
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da-ron
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Posted on Jul 26 2013 07:10 AM
CousinMary wrote:
Like most good girls in that era, I took piano lessons and can only play if I am reading music. So I always figured that I could never learn to play by ear. This topic is kind of saying the opposite (converse?) in a way. Food for thought.
Years ago I once had a 'jam' with a pianist. I am a self taught guitar hacker, with the barest of musical theory. My fellow jammer was an exceptional Grade X pianist. Whatever music I put in front of him, he could play, no hesitation, no pointing of finger and silently mouth F-A-C-E... I was awestruck. "I wish I could do that" I said.
Later, I was twiddling away, a riff popped out from under my fingers so I developed it a bit before I noticed he was watching. He wanted to know what I was playing, and I said - "No idea, I'm making it up as I go along." I believe it's called 'improvisation'.
He said, "I wish I could I do that". I was a bit stunned, and told him he was an amazing pianist, I'd just seen him play anything.
But he said no, he can only play music that is written out in front of him. "If I start playing two notes that were in a piece I've had to practice, I just start playing that piece" He said. So we looked at each other, both envious of the others musical background.
While i like the idea that I can create music while he found that difficult, I do wish my musical theory, and sight reading was better. The advent of tab didn't help! It's similar to learning a language, something I also struggle with!
Needless to say, that was the first and only jam...
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revmike
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North Atlantic
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Posted on Jul 26 2013 09:26 AM
Reading music & playing by ear both require a lot of time and practice. Very few people can just do either without a lot of work. Both are extremely important in becoming a well rounded musician. I've played gigs where i've spent the night sight reading charts (playing in Red Skeleton's pick up band), other shows where everything was picked up by ear, and many that were a combination of the two. It certainly makes you more employable.
As most guitarist, I developed my ear by picking stuff off records. My sight reading skills were developed by spending a half hour a day with a Real Book reading melody after melody with a metronome. Time spent is what both have in common for me.
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jglaser333
Joined: Sep 04, 2013
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Posted on Sep 04 2013 11:51 PM
Thanks everyone! Been enjoying reading all these posts
all the best
Jamie G
if you haven't seen the trailer for the video here it is
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pmWxQHcV6YQ
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vintagesurfdude
Joined: Nov 28, 2011
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Prescott Valley, AZ
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Posted on Sep 05 2013 01:53 AM
Thanks for dropping in, Jamie! I'ma workin' on it ! 
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jglaser333
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Posted on Sep 05 2013 07:33 AM
Chris... seems like a very cool forum. Thanks for turning me onto this place.
I bet you're doing great with the vid.. if I can be of any help you know how to reach me.
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LHR
Joined: Aug 23, 2006
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The jungle
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Posted on Sep 05 2013 05:47 PM
I'll go one better than simply learning to read: take piano lessons.
— SSIV
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Noel
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Back in Piitsburgh, Pennsylvania, where I grew up.
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Posted on Sep 05 2013 08:31 PM
LHR wrote:
I'll go one better than simply learning to read: take piano lessons.
If I had followed this advice when my dad gave it to me, back when I was a kid, I would at least have had the chance to be a professional musician like he was. I really wish I had. Everything I'm trying to do now would be so much easier, and better.
Great advice then. Great advice now!
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jglaser333
Joined: Sep 04, 2013
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Posted on Sep 05 2013 08:53 PM
All my private students get to take their guitar lesson here and I bring them to the keyboard to try out whatever theory Ive taught
The info is good but way better if you actually use it.
I think in all the years that's been the best comment from my students I had when I taught at GIT, and in Vienna that I worked on applying it.
The piano can be really helpful to play in a compositional way, cause you are forced to think of the spectrum of sound,..,,bass to treble. Not a bad suggestion at all guys.
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