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wow... Looks like they will sell a lot of these. I wonder if they have properly wound jazzmaster pickups? Crazy price and stellar looks.

Last edited: Sep 24, 2011 18:21:19

It wouldn't be too far out to think that some will upgrade the electronics and/or hardware, first chance they get.

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I bought one of these two weeks ago and there is a lot I like about it. I already have two Jap Jazzy's: one a surf green 66 (with Novaks) and the other a stock CIJ candy red.

Mascis Squire : It plays great out of the box especially with the sanded neck and has good action and regular frets on a good thin profile rosewood neck ( I can't manage the baseball bats). The pickups actually sound really good - perhaps a tad hotter than normal Jazzy pups but I like them. I today tried the exact same guitar against one with SD antiquity II's in it as I thought I wanted to get these to put in it. After comparing the two I decided there was no need. The tremelo is cool too, more of a bend in the arm which really helps. All this for $300 - stoked!

Surfabilly wrote:

It wouldn't be too far out to think that some will upgrade the electronics and/or hardware, first chance they get.

I have done the following to mine:

Black Pickguard
Staytrem Bridge
AVRI Trem with Staytrem arm
SD Antiquity I pickups
Rewired it using cloth pushback wire
Switchcraft switches and jack
new rhythm circuit with cts pots, switchcraft switches, and nos cap
Added fender brass shielding plates and used tape shielding in body.

To be honest, it didn't need all these upgrades. Out of the box it was a great guitar with no real problems. The only upgrades that I feel that I NEEDED were the bridge and the trem arm. I will probably upgrade those on every JM or Jag I will ever own. The rest was for fun.

Its a great guitar for those on a budget. Heck, its a great guitar period.

Has anyone tested the difference between the J Mascis and the Vintage Modified one ?

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I've had one about 6 months, sounded good with no mods. I did bend the trem arm to my liking as I found it was way too far off the body for what I like. Never owned a Jazzmaster so I can't comment of the differences. Trem works great w/o mods. Thinking of selling it as it spends most of the time in the case.

clepak wrote:

Has anyone tested the difference between the J Mascis and the Vintage Modified one ?

Not sure about many differences. I know that one that has been me tioned a few times is that the break angle between the bridge and tremolo is tighter, i.e. the trem is closer to the bridge.

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I have a nearly new 50's vibe Squier Strat in about the same situation, I'll trade you. Pm sent.

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I've had one about 6 months, sounded good with no mods. I did bend the trem arm to my liking as I found it was way too far off the body for what I like. Never owned a Jazzmaster so I can't comment of the differences. Trem works great w/o mods. Thinking of selling it as it spends most of the time in the case.

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The mods I'm thinking of doing are as follows:

  1. Red tortoiseshell pickguard - thought the gold anodised is growing on me.
  2. Changing the "rhythm" circuit so that each roller controls the volume independently on each pickup - I like blending pickups - usually suits my ears more than a tone control. AKA like a Telecaster 72 Deluxe or Custom. Those roller knobs are in a good spot for that too.
  3. Some cool stickers!

does the whole cloth wiring thing do much?

elwrongo wrote:

does the whole cloth wiring thing do much?

If i kept all of the same pots and switches I probably wouldn't notice a difference. I just like the cleaner classier look of the wire, even though no one else will ever see it. It also seems easier to work with when soldering.

As for your other mods: Red tort on the aged white looks good! Be sure to post some pics. And that idea for a modified rhythm circuit sounds cool. That would make it a very very versatile guitar.

as for vmjm versus jmjm, the trem placement, bridge, and pickups are more vintage correct on the vmjm. The jmjm pickups are wound more like P90s and have individual pole adjustment and the bridge is a tune-o-matic style. So any one out there that want a cheap surf guitar that they would keep mostly stock, I'd say the Vintage Modified series is better for that.

The one thing, for me, that makes the jmjm better is the neck. Satin finish, perfect width, big frets... its so easy to play it damn near plays itself!

elwrongo wrote:

does the whole cloth wiring thing do much?

No, please don't waste your time and money on cloth wire. Cloth wire is nice to work with because instead of stripping plastic insulation, you just push back on the cloth to expose the conductor. Other than that, there's no need to rip out your perfectly good wire just so you can replace it with something different.

Another money-waster is those expensive tone capacitors that some people buy for their guitars:

http://www.musiciansfriend.com/accessories/gibson-historic-bumblebee-capacitors-2-pack

Capacitors do sound different in tube amplifiers but that's because they are exposed to high voltages and large signals. But guitars only have tiny signals in them, and those don't bring out the interestingness of capacitors. The stock capacitors will be fine, and if you want to experiment with different values, the caps at Radio Shack are just as good as the expensive ones.

If it ain't broke, fix it until it is.

you're right about caps. .022mfd or whatever value of one cap is.. .022mfd

Are there differences between the mascis and squire VM necks? Such as radius, nut width and shape? I think the mascis' have jumbo frets where the VM has medium jumbo's. What does the difference between the fret sizes mean to the guitarist?

Here's what the Fender site says the neck specs are:

Vintage Modified
Neck Finish: Polyester
Neck Shape: "C" Shape
Scale Length: 25.5" (648 mm)
Fingerboard: Maple
Fingerboard Radius: 9.5" (241 mm)
Number of Frets: 21
Nut Width: 1.650" (42 mm)

J Mascis
Neck Material: Maple
Neck Finish: Gloss Urethane
Neck Shape: "C" Shape
Scale Length: 25.5" (64.8 cm)
Fingerboard: Rosewood
Fingerboard Radius: 9.5" (241 mm)
Number of Frets: 21
Fret Size: Jumbo
String Nut: White PPS
Nut Width: 1.675" (42.5 mm)
Position Inlays: Dot
Truss Rods: Standard
Truss Rod Nut: 5 mm Hex
Neck Plate: 4-Bolt Squier®

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BJB wrote:

elwrongo wrote:

does the whole cloth wiring thing do much?

No, please don't waste your time and money on cloth wire. Cloth wire is nice to work with because instead of stripping plastic insulation, you just push back on the cloth to expose the conductor. Other than that, there's no need to rip out your perfectly good wire just so you can replace it with something different.

Another money-waster is those expensive tone capacitors that some people buy for their guitars:

http://www.musiciansfriend.com/accessories/gibson-historic-bumblebee-capacitors-2-pack

Capacitors do sound different in tube amplifiers but that's because they are exposed to high voltages and large signals. But guitars only have tiny signals in them, and those don't bring out the interestingness of capacitors. The stock capacitors will be fine, and if you want to experiment with different values, the caps at Radio Shack are just as good as the expensive ones.

I just did it for fun and to learn more about what makes my guitar tick. So I wouldn't say any of it was a waste of anything. And it really wasn't that expensive. So many vendors and people selling online, prices are lower than you think. But i'd like to reiterate what I said before and that NONE OF THESE MODS HAD TO BE DONE. Its a GREAT guitar out of the box. I just like modding and learning while I do it Cool

Thanks, hockey puck. .5 mm wider on the nut, I think that's about .020" Wonder if you could tell the difference?

Thanks Hockeypuck, BJB, Josheboy and others.

Yes now I look they are jumbo frets. I agree with Josheboy - the thing plays great. It embarrassing that I pick it up more than much more expensive JMs I have. The satin neck is very nice and I'm looking to replicate it on other guitars ASAP. I like the frets and nut width too, suits me very well. I will post some pics when I do the pickguard. Like to get some witchhat knobs too...

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