A note to musicians who are disappointed with a lack of response to their posts

Brian

Joined: Feb 25, 2006
Posts: 19340
Des Moines, Iowa, USA
United States

Posted on Aug 13 2013 01:55 PM

Ok, ok, I'll change my avatar to this:

care bear

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Noel

Joined: Mar 15, 2011
Posts: 8528
Back in Piitsburgh, Pennsylvania, where I grew up.
United States

Posted on Aug 13 2013 01:57 PM

Okay with me if it's holding a guitar.

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morphball

Joined: Dec 23, 2008
Posts: 3324
Pittsboro, NC
United States

Posted on Aug 13 2013 01:59 PM

Nah, real shitheads get run out of town pretty quick. And I think Nigel's just expressing an opinion, nothing shitheaded about it; many here will just disagree with it. But you're right, absolutely no reason to lose tempers over something so minor.

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Stormtiger

Joined: Dec 12, 2006
Posts: 2687
Ventura, CA
United States

Posted on Aug 13 2013 02:13 PM

Now this makes me want to bang my head against a wall.
Brian wrote:

Ok, ok, I'll change my avatar to this:

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WhorehayRFB

Joined: Jun 12, 2008
Posts: 3331
Huntington Beach, CA
United States

Posted on Aug 13 2013 02:25 PM

Brian wrote:

Ok, ok, I'll change my avatar to this:

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http://www.facebook.com/pages/Radio-Free-Bakersfield/172410279636
http://www.sandiegojoe.com/rfb.htm

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WhorehayRFB

Joined: Jun 12, 2008
Posts: 3331
Huntington Beach, CA
United States

Posted on Aug 13 2013 02:27 PM

RobC wrote:

Brian: Well done on the web site in general. It is an awesome resource for us reverb freaks but a relatively thankless job. I imagine herding cats is actually easier than herding musicians/guitarists particularly with the veil of relative anonymity the web provides.

Maybe we could all toughen up a bit to overcome avataphobia

Whorehay: Your shows f*#kin' rock. I dig it completely.

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Surfocaster

Joined: Jan 16, 2010
Posts: 214
Somerset, England

Posted on Aug 13 2013 02:28 PM

You are correct Morphball, purely opinion, I shall keep them to myself in future. However, it is not Brians site, but on reflection I will concede that it is not the users site either, more of a symbiotic relationship which of course is why people should get on, and by and large do just that.
Im going to plug my Sonic Blue thin skin jag into my reissue tank (modded a la SG101 advice) into my reissue Vibroverb (modded a la SG101 advice) and forget I ever had this conversation.

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caddady

Joined: Feb 14, 2010
Posts: 802
N.E. Ohio
United States

Posted on Aug 13 2013 02:30 PM

Please add rainbows, unicorns and sparkles to complete the package.

I am now moved to make my yearly contibution to the donations kitty.

Greg

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Noel

Joined: Mar 15, 2011
Posts: 8528
Back in Piitsburgh, Pennsylvania, where I grew up.
United States

Posted on Aug 13 2013 02:32 PM

I've herded cats. Brian's job is WAAAY tougher.

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wooza

Joined: Apr 24, 2006
Posts: 1618
Ithaca, NY
1 Download Pin

Posted on Aug 13 2013 02:49 PM

Family therapy! Fun!

This thread seems to be drifting into a second topic of newbies feeling left out, but it's pretty related to the original topic. In fact, I've seen multiple instances where someone's first post or two is simply a link to a personal project with little/no explanation, and in those instances these issues are one and the same.

I think Brian's strategy of referring people to new threads is right on the money. It's helpful and constructive, but just an unfortunate misunderstanding if it's construed as dismissive.

The fact is that many people have been on this site for over -holy crap- SEVEN years at this point, myself included, and after that long there really is no need for another thread about 'which reverb pedal' or which is the best amp/guitar/cable/etc. They're pretty subjective issues anyways, and after scores of posts on the matter over the course of years, I frankly find those topics screamingly boring. I'm more extreme in that opinion than most people here, but still I'm sure many regulars would see little need in re-beating those classic dead horses. But of course a new guy/gal doesn't have that same perspective, so if they ask direct them to join in where the conversation left off. If they have something new to contribute, all the better.

As far as people frustrated with a lack of response to their music: agreed, the best approach is to engage in the site first. A simple link to your soundcloud page doesn't excite me about your music at all - there's nothing enticing about an anonymous hyperlink! But if I've seen someone has recently joined the site and contributed some valid, interesting posts on the subject of actual surf music, when I see they have a band I'm usually much more interested to hear their try at it. What frustrates me as a site regular is that that type of conversation has regressed over the years here.

It's also frustrating to hear people say they don't think they have enough 'expertise' to warrant contributing a song review or something. I think that's total bullcrap! By all means put it out there! People here are all fans of the same genre from different perspectives, but just because some are better at guitar or music theory than others doesn't make their tastes more valid. I find it fun and interesting to hear when people have a totally different take on a song/album than mine. Those discussions are cool.

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Brian

Joined: Feb 25, 2006
Posts: 19340
Des Moines, Iowa, USA
United States

Posted on Aug 13 2013 03:06 PM

Surfocaster wrote:

You are correct Morphball, purely opinion, I shall keep them to myself in future.

Please don't.

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mom_surfing

Joined: Feb 27, 2006
Posts: 5320
the outer banks of north carolina
1 Calendar Pin

Posted on Aug 26 2013 08:46 PM

i laughed the first time i saw brian's avatar. it's how i feel often in my store except the computer would have a cash register attached to it.

by the way, i love your broadcasts whorehay

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WhorehayRFB

Joined: Jun 12, 2008
Posts: 3331
Huntington Beach, CA
United States

Posted on Aug 26 2013 09:04 PM

mom_surfing wrote:

i laughed the first time i saw brian's avatar. it's how i feel often in my store except the computer would have a cash register attached to it.

by the way, i love your broadcasts whorehay

Thanks Mom!

DISCLAIMER: My avatar is an actual screenshot of a dream I had after eating French pastry.

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Brian Joined: Feb 25, 2006 Posts: 19340 Des Moines, Iowa, USA	Posted on Aug 13 2013 01:55 PM Ok, ok, I'll change my avatar to this: — Site dude - S3 Agent #202 Need help with the site? SG101 FAQ - Send me a private message - Email me "It starts... when it begins" -- Ralf Kilauea Top
Noel Joined: Mar 15, 2011 Posts: 8528 Back in Piitsburgh, Pennsylvania, where I grew up.	Posted on Aug 13 2013 01:57 PM Okay with me if it's holding a guitar. — This is Noel. Reverb's at maximum an' I'm givin' 'er all she's got. Top
morphball Joined: Dec 23, 2008 Posts: 3324 Pittsboro, NC	Posted on Aug 13 2013 01:59 PM Nah, real shitheads get run out of town pretty quick. And I think Nigel's just expressing an opinion, nothing shitheaded about it; many here will just disagree with it. But you're right, absolutely no reason to lose tempers over something so minor. — Mike http://www.youtube.com/morphballio Top
Stormtiger Joined: Dec 12, 2006 Posts: 2687 Ventura, CA	Posted on Aug 13 2013 02:13 PM Now this makes me want to bang my head against a wall. Brian wrote: Ok, ok, I'll change my avatar to this: Top
WhorehayRFB Joined: Jun 12, 2008 Posts: 3331 Huntington Beach, CA	Posted on Aug 13 2013 02:25 PM Brian wrote: Ok, ok, I'll change my avatar to this: — Radio Free Bakersfield--60 Minutes of TWANG, CRUNCH, OOMPH. http://radiofreebakersfield.com http://www.facebook.com/pages/Radio-Free-Bakersfield/172410279636 http://www.sandiegojoe.com/rfb.htm Top
WhorehayRFB Joined: Jun 12, 2008 Posts: 3331 Huntington Beach, CA	Posted on Aug 13 2013 02:27 PM RobC wrote: Brian: Well done on the web site in general. It is an awesome resource for us reverb freaks but a relatively thankless job. I imagine herding cats is actually easier than herding musicians/guitarists particularly with the veil of relative anonymity the web provides. Maybe we could all toughen up a bit to overcome avataphobia Whorehay: Your shows f*#kin' rock. I dig it completely. — Radio Free Bakersfield--60 Minutes of TWANG, CRUNCH, OOMPH. http://radiofreebakersfield.com http://www.facebook.com/pages/Radio-Free-Bakersfield/172410279636 http://www.sandiegojoe.com/rfb.htm Top
Surfocaster Joined: Jan 16, 2010 Posts: 214 Somerset, England	Posted on Aug 13 2013 02:28 PM You are correct Morphball, purely opinion, I shall keep them to myself in future. However, it is not Brians site, but on reflection I will concede that it is not the users site either, more of a symbiotic relationship which of course is why people should get on, and by and large do just that. Im going to plug my Sonic Blue thin skin jag into my reissue tank (modded a la SG101 advice) into my reissue Vibroverb (modded a la SG101 advice) and forget I ever had this conversation. Top
caddady Joined: Feb 14, 2010 Posts: 802 N.E. Ohio	Posted on Aug 13 2013 02:30 PM Please add rainbows, unicorns and sparkles to complete the package. I am now moved to make my yearly contibution to the donations kitty. Greg — http://www.reverbnation.com/thegreasemonkeyz Top
Noel Joined: Mar 15, 2011 Posts: 8528 Back in Piitsburgh, Pennsylvania, where I grew up.	Posted on Aug 13 2013 02:32 PM I've herded cats. Brian's job is WAAAY tougher. — This is Noel. Reverb's at maximum an' I'm givin' 'er all she's got. Top
wooza Joined: Apr 24, 2006 Posts: 1618 Ithaca, NY	Posted on Aug 13 2013 02:49 PM Family therapy! Fun! This thread seems to be drifting into a second topic of newbies feeling left out, but it's pretty related to the original topic. In fact, I've seen multiple instances where someone's first post or two is simply a link to a personal project with little/no explanation, and in those instances these issues are one and the same. I think Brian's strategy of referring people to new threads is right on the money. It's helpful and constructive, but just an unfortunate misunderstanding if it's construed as dismissive. The fact is that many people have been on this site for over -holy crap- SEVEN years at this point, myself included, and after that long there really is no need for another thread about 'which reverb pedal' or which is the best amp/guitar/cable/etc. They're pretty subjective issues anyways, and after scores of posts on the matter over the course of years, I frankly find those topics screamingly boring. I'm more extreme in that opinion than most people here, but still I'm sure many regulars would see little need in re-beating those classic dead horses. But of course a new guy/gal doesn't have that same perspective, so if they ask direct them to join in where the conversation left off. If they have something new to contribute, all the better. As far as people frustrated with a lack of response to their music: agreed, the best approach is to engage in the site first. A simple link to your soundcloud page doesn't excite me about your music at all - there's nothing enticing about an anonymous hyperlink! But if I've seen someone has recently joined the site and contributed some valid, interesting posts on the subject of actual surf music, when I see they have a band I'm usually much more interested to hear their try at it. What frustrates me as a site regular is that that type of conversation has regressed over the years here. It's also frustrating to hear people say they don't think they have enough 'expertise' to warrant contributing a song review or something. I think that's total bullcrap! By all means put it out there! People here are all fans of the same genre from different perspectives, but just because some are better at guitar or music theory than others doesn't make their tastes more valid. I find it fun and interesting to hear when people have a totally different take on a song/album than mine. Those discussions are cool. Top
Brian Joined: Feb 25, 2006 Posts: 19340 Des Moines, Iowa, USA	Posted on Aug 13 2013 03:06 PM Surfocaster wrote: You are correct Morphball, purely opinion, I shall keep them to myself in future. Please don't. — Site dude - S3 Agent #202 Need help with the site? SG101 FAQ - Send me a private message - Email me "It starts... when it begins" -- Ralf Kilauea Top
mom_surfing Joined: Feb 27, 2006 Posts: 5320 the outer banks of north carolina	Posted on Aug 26 2013 08:46 PM i laughed the first time i saw brian's avatar. it's how i feel often in my store except the computer would have a cash register attached to it. by the way, i love your broadcasts whorehay — www.surfintheeye.com Top
WhorehayRFB Joined: Jun 12, 2008 Posts: 3331 Huntington Beach, CA	Posted on Aug 26 2013 09:04 PM mom_surfing wrote: i laughed the first time i saw brian's avatar. it's how i feel often in my store except the computer would have a cash register attached to it. by the way, i love your broadcasts whorehay Thanks Mom! DISCLAIMER: My avatar is an actual screenshot of a dream I had after eating French pastry. — Radio Free Bakersfield--60 Minutes of TWANG, CRUNCH, OOMPH. http://radiofreebakersfield.com http://www.facebook.com/pages/Radio-Free-Bakersfield/172410279636 http://www.sandiegojoe.com/rfb.htm Top

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