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Joined: Oct 05, 2012 Posts: 1725 Austin, Texas 
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Posted on Jul 02 2013 03:18 PM
The les paul has p-90's. The firebird has minihums, Jake has a lot of experience with those. Supposedly work fine for surf. You can make bright humbuckers sound delicious, and there are dark singles as well, that to my ears sound terrible for surf. Seems that it all boils down to personal taste.. And you are your harshest critic. —IMO. |
Joined: Feb 27, 2006 Posts: 2063 Virginia, USA
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Posted on Jul 02 2013 04:46 PM
You are correct, that Les Paul does have P-90s, I didn't look at it very well. Paul |
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Posted on Jul 02 2013 07:34 PM
Interesting thread. Also makes me feel more justified wanting to get a Gretsch when I don't really need one. |
Joined: Feb 26, 2006 Posts: 12159 Seattle
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Posted on Jul 02 2013 07:40 PM
PrestonRice wrote:
The Firebird is a humbucker and mini, but they aren't what are referred to as mini humbuckers. There are PAF style mini humbuckers which are called mini humbuckers by most people and then there are Firebird Mini Humbuckers. Completely different construction! Dark singles, I love them. The amount of wire/windings is the largest culprit on a 'dark' sound. Some people call it full, some call it dark. It being a humbucker doesn't really make it dark/full except humbuckers usually have a lot of wire/windings. |
Joined: Jul 02, 2013 Posts: 79 Pisgah Forest, NC
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Posted on Jul 03 2013 05:07 AM
I use humbuckers, but I switch them to single coil mode. The humbuckers are too thick and throaty for me personally. I like a very crisp single coil sound. I have been using my JS2400 for all my instrumental stuff and I like the way it cuts through. I have Strats but I prefer the JS2400. To each his own. It's best just to experiment and find what you like. A couple examples here on you tube —My Music recordings - http://el34world.com/Misc/Music/music1.htm Last edited: Jul 03, 2013 05:08:33 |
Joined: Feb 27, 2006 Posts: 1054 Chicago IL.
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Posted on Jul 03 2013 07:18 AM
I've got two humbucker equipped Gibsons. A Les Paul and a SG. The SG on the bridge pickup picked near the tune-o-matic and you'd think it was a Telecaster. Cranked through a big amp like a Twin Reverb it breaks up and gets a twangy almost Mosrite tone. My Les Paul is muddier. —"as he stepped into the stealthy night air... little did he know the fire escape was not there" https://www.facebook.com/reluctantaquanauts/ |
Joined: Dec 17, 2012 Posts: 519 Vienna 
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Posted on Jul 03 2013 07:42 AM
BillAqua wrote:
True! —http://www.surfgrammeln-san.org |
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Posted on Jul 03 2013 10:53 AM
horax wrote:
Personally I think you would have alot of trouble surfing with a single coil pickup. They are so small I would not consider them a viable replacement for an actual surf board. In all seriousness though, on one of my Fender strats I use the Dimarzio Paul Gilbert Injector set. Very versatile, quiet, and you can make them sound like strat pups or buckies. they have a very distinctive strat voice and I always feel the middle position on that one is best for surf as it is definitely the most strattiest pickup in the bunch. I like strats! Last edited: Jul 03, 2013 11:02:44 |
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Posted on Jul 07 2013 10:24 PM
I concur that you can surf with anything. But there is often that visual image i get from all the old movies, videos, album art, photos... Surf, like rockabilly, southern rock, mod/pop, punk.. the all have their associated gear. |
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Joined: Feb 26, 2006 Posts: 12159 Seattle
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Posted on Jul 07 2013 10:33 PM
so1om wrote:
It all comes down to how good the music is! Somebody trying to copy the old surf classics with a Les Paul and Marshall even with a tank is probably going to fail. Somebody with the same set up playing original music that is a reflection of the person, is probably going to have success. |
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Posted on Jul 08 2013 06:44 AM
Listen to Elliot Easton's Tiki Gods album Easton Island. Firebird (Tiki ird model) a 335 and a Barney Kessel. Sounds fantastic. |
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Joined: Feb 27, 2006 Posts: 1054 Chicago IL.
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Posted on Jul 08 2013 09:48 AM
I think a Gibson SG looks just as era appropriate for first wave surf as any Fender.
"as he stepped into the stealthy night air... little did he know the fire escape was not there" https://www.facebook.com/reluctantaquanauts/ |
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Posted on Jul 08 2013 09:51 AM
"as he stepped into the stealthy night air... little did he know the fire escape was not there" https://www.facebook.com/reluctantaquanauts/ |
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Joined: Jul 02, 2013 Posts: 79 Pisgah Forest, NC
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Posted on Jul 08 2013 09:54 AM
Hmm, not too sure about that personally —My Music recordings - http://el34world.com/Misc/Music/music1.htm |
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Joined: Oct 05, 2012 Posts: 1725 Austin, Texas
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Posted on Jul 08 2013 09:55 AM
JohnnyA wrote:
I believe one of the other Tiki God's guitarists uses an Italia Modena as well. Again with the mini hums! Easton has always been a kind of out of the box guitarist, too. —IMO. |
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Joined: Feb 26, 2006 Posts: 12159 Seattle
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Posted on Jul 08 2013 09:58 AM
EL34 wrote:
Well, so is somebody with a single coil guitar and fender amp as well. Copying gets one nowhere. |
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Joined: Oct 05, 2012 Posts: 1725 Austin, Texas
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Posted on Jul 08 2013 10:00 AM
JakeDobner wrote:
It worked for Dick Dale and the Ventures. —IMO. |
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Joined: Feb 26, 2006 Posts: 12159 Seattle
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Posted on Jul 08 2013 10:10 AM
PrestonRice wrote:
I don't like the Ventures, and I hardly think we can accuse Dick Dale of copying! |
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Joined: Mar 23, 2011 Posts: 518 colorado springs
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Posted on Jul 08 2013 10:19 AM
The Ventures are great, IMO. ;) |
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Joined: Mar 23, 2011 Posts: 518 colorado springs
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Posted on Jul 08 2013 10:19 AM
But I REALLY like the Bambi Molesters! |
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