togergo
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Budapest
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Posted on Mar 16 2013 06:26 AM
It's not common, but can you tell me some trios - I know just some well known bands (Dick Dale, Slacktone, Messer Chups)?
Thanks!
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beachbreak
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Brisbane
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Posted on Mar 16 2013 07:40 AM
great question togergo
Keen to hear the answers here too (maybe a list would be good)
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CrazyAces
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Nashville, TN.
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Posted on Mar 16 2013 09:18 AM
We played as a trio for about a year and it was fun, pretty raw in a rock n roll sort of way but I'm really happy we found a new guitar player and are back to a quartet.
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revmike
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North Atlantic
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Posted on Mar 16 2013 09:19 AM
My band, Urban Surf Kings, is a trio. I really like the musical flexibility it gives us to take things "off script". Another thing I like about the trio format is that space/silence can play a big role in our sound (not that it couldn't be done with a bigger group). Plus there is one less person to pay.
Rev
Other instro trios from Canada:
Shadowy Men
Atomic 7
Huevos Rancheros
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LoeD
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Germany
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Posted on Mar 16 2013 09:23 AM
we are also only three. As mentioned above, it´s a more raw way sounding to play that way. the guitarist needs to add rhytm parts and the bassist needs to add melody, to fill gaps. Sometimes I´d like to have another guitarist next to me sometimes I don´t. However, I am used to playing in trios as my former band was also a trio for many years. But we had a singeer back then, so in fact you have one more instrument. Now with instrumental songs it´s really only three instruments that need to sound "complete". that´s tough sometimes, but also makes a bit of a unique sound.
LoeD
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simoncoil
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Berlin, Germany
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Posted on Mar 16 2013 09:36 AM
Good question!
I really love the transparent sound you get by playing in a trio and have been playing surf in trios a lot myself. And because of that I have always kind of been in the lookout for other surf trios to steal... err learn from. However trios seem to be pretty much a third wave thing - only four persons or more on stage in the 60s. And in the studio almost every trio seems to add additional guitars...
My favorite trios are:
Astromama (Germany, defunct and almost forgotten)
King Charles Head (Netherlands, now defunct, but their album is still available on Kamikaze Records)
Langhorns (Sweden)
Man or Astro-Man? (were a trio on the first album at least)
Mermen / Shi-Tones
Razorblades (Germany - they were a four piece in the beginning)
Shadowy Men on a Shadowy Planet (Canada, defunct/reunited)
Slacktone (USA)
Surf Coasters (Japan)
Threesome (Serbia)
Am I wrong or are trios really a more popular format outside the USA?
— Los Apollos - cinematic surf music trio (Berlin)
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OzReverb
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Victoria
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Posted on Mar 16 2013 09:46 AM
Martin Cilia often does when not with The Atlantics. We played as a trio for a period of time (no bass player) and it does change the sound for sure, not just the bottom end. My amp blew a fuse on the last song a couple of gigs ago (we are a four piece again) so I went out into the audience and had a listen. It sounded pretty good.
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fenderfan
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Posted on Mar 16 2013 10:05 AM
Our band is a trio (the Royal Aces), and I wouldn't have it any other way. Easier to organize, better distribution of pay, and our trio format has never had any negative impact on our ability to secure lots of gigs. There are some tunes where I'd like to hear a rhythm guitar chunking away, but not so seriously that I would actually want a fourth person. And, I like the extra "air" and dynamics of a three-piece.
When recording, it's fun to add acoustic or electric rhythm tracks, lightly mixed in, but for gigs the trio approach has worked just fine.
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Brian
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Posted on Mar 16 2013 12:34 PM
The Secret Samurai
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skeeter
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Virginia, USA
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Posted on Mar 16 2013 01:04 PM
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togergo
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Budapest
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Posted on Mar 16 2013 03:50 PM
Thanks the answers, there are a lot of trios out there, good.. I just asked it, because I've found my 'bass brother' (when I left my 'ex' band I said - never play with somebody, if we don't match perfect - if I don't find anybody, I'll never play in a band). This guy was a guitar player, plays with a pick, play chords, double stops, and his father had got a Shadows tribute band, and he (the bass player) learnt to play with old instros, so.. it's really good, I never thought, that there's a guy in this little country, who plays like him. I think we don't need another guitar player, just a good drummer - ok it's the hardest part..
So, I'm just curious, how trio sounds when it's not DD, or Slacktone. I don't worry about it, because in the last year I practiced alone, and my new songs are 'solo pieces' - it sounds a little bit 'boastful' - but it's not a big deal, I play more chords between the notes of the melody, and use some tricks from jazz guitar playing, and some rockabilly/country type finger picking. So - I think - it will be great. 
Anyway, thanks your answers again, and I'm goin' to listen all trios now :))
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drumsdick
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Central CT, USA
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Posted on Mar 16 2013 10:58 PM
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revmike
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North Atlantic
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Posted on Mar 17 2013 11:10 AM
simoncoil wrote:
And in the studio almost every trio seems to add additional guitars...
The studio is definitely a different beast. I look at it as a different opportunity than a live trio thing. One to to experiment with a variety of sounds and instruments.
Rev
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norcalhodad
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Posted on Mar 17 2013 11:51 AM
The Infrareds and early Ghastly Ones were 3 piece. I'm impressed with Messer Chups' live clips. Their records seemed so chopped, processed and sampled, but that guitar player conveys some of that studio weirdness pretty well in the live setting.
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da-ron
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The original Plymouth, UK.
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Posted on Mar 17 2013 01:14 PM
The Waterboarders are a trio. I never really thought about getting another guitarist. A good and creative drummer is essential for a trio, I've found. I guess Slacktone get by with Dusty though. 
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TFJ
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Posted on Mar 17 2013 01:21 PM
I think a trio needs to have really special players and/or a virtuoso (or two) of sorts (Slacktone), unless they play off-the-wall crazy stuff (Mermen) or their original compositions are written for a 3-piece. Three regular players trying to noodle through the standards which should have a distinct rhythm guitar (or organ) just sounds thin/hollow in my opinion. Of course, in the studio, you can do whatever you want, but what does it sound like live?
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norcalhodad
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Posted on Mar 17 2013 01:47 PM
^Definitely.
I've never seen the Mermen but have seen the Shi-tones(3-piece) and Jim Thomas used a looper to layer the guitar sound. Slacktone I've seen and they are collectively talented enough to produce a whirling vortex of sound. Brian mentioned the Secret Samurai who I have not seen live, but I've seen the videos and Ryan (Ruhar) plays his ass off to fill the sound while the drummer and bassist kind of lay back and let him go.
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simoncoil
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Posted on Mar 17 2013 02:07 PM
I disagree in part: I have played/play in a three piece and I am not a virtuoso guitar player as Dave Wronski and I don't go as far as Jim Thomas (but they are both huge inspirations for me). The key element of making a trio work in a surf context is really songwriting an arrangements. Of course playing certain songs from the "standard repertoire" is difficult (some are impossbile, I think), but when you start writing your own stuff for just three people you get forced into doint something other than "standard stuff", which is one of the things I admire in all the trios I mentioned above (who by the way don't sound thin or hollow at all).
— Los Apollos - cinematic surf music trio (Berlin)
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revmike
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North Atlantic
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Posted on Mar 17 2013 02:22 PM
TFJ wrote:
I think a trio needs to have really special players and/or a virtuoso (or two) of sorts (Slacktone), unless they play off-the-wall crazy stuff (Mermen) or their original compositions are written for a 3-piece. Three regular players trying to noodle through the standards which should have a distinct rhythm guitar (or organ) just sounds thin/hollow in my opinion. Of course, in the studio, you can do whatever you want, but what does it sound like live?
What it sounds like live is part of the fun for us. If we play a tune that has more than guitar-bass-drums on the recording, then it's just a matter of working out an arrangement that'll work. That's the adventure. It certainly depends on the standard though. Be wise in what tunes one selects.
Rev
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Las_Barracudas
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Surf City, NC
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Posted on Mar 17 2013 03:24 PM
I find that even the best Surf trios sound a bit lacking to my ears. I always say to myself "wow that's a great song but wouldn't it sound even better with another guitar part."
I also think that most Surf trios seem to lean a bit more towards a Garage Rock sound due to the stripped down nature of the band.
We (Meteor Men) have discussed doing a trio more than once but I'd much rather perform with another good guitarist. When I write an original song it generally always has two guitar parts and while I can pull it off by myself to a degree live, it never sounds quite the same or as full. A good 2nd guitar just adds so much more to the mix and creates a more dynamic live sound. With the right musician it's just a win / win imho.
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