Do Hi-Hats Have A Place In Surf Music?

pipeline50

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Posted on Feb 19 2013 12:16 PM

I play drums and, personally, I say No...anyone else?

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Stormtiger

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Posted on Feb 19 2013 12:26 PM

Is this a trick question?

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psychonaut

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Posted on Feb 19 2013 12:31 PM

Are you joking? I can think of 75 million examples of Hi-Hat use in Surf music. You might as well say the guitar has no place in surf.

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norcalhodad

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Posted on Feb 19 2013 12:34 PM

This guy's hat is pretty high.

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JONPAUL

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Posted on Feb 19 2013 12:40 PM

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LoeD

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Posted on Feb 19 2013 12:43 PM

sure they do have a place right next to the crash cymbal and the snare...

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killbabykill34

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Posted on Feb 19 2013 12:48 PM

I know that SG101 has been suffering from some lulls in conversation lately, but do we really need another one of these?

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websurfer

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Posted on Feb 19 2013 01:04 PM

pipeline50 wrote:

I play drums and, personally, I say No...anyone else?

If you are serious about it, I would urge anyone interested in this question to read the surf drumming subjective thoughts thread. Many of the best drummers in the genre give their thoughts on the use of the hi hat in surf, along with lots of other things. It's one of the best threads on the forum.

(Short answer, it's not as easy as "yes or no".)
http://surfguitar101.com/forums/topic/145/?page=1

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Brian

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Posted on Feb 19 2013 01:15 PM

Good call websurfer. That Surf Drumming thread is a goldmine of information.

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bu2b

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Posted on Feb 19 2013 02:14 PM

After all the time I have played the drums I have found that if you know your instrument and understand the music you would know where hats toms and such fit in. Experience will tell you.

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tubesNtweed

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Posted on Feb 19 2013 05:28 PM

killbabykill34 wrote:

I know that SG101 has been suffering from some lulls in conversation lately, but do we really need another one of these?

You're tellin me. No offense but we need something else exciting to talk about besides same old gear threads and stuff like this. But what to talk about I don't know...

Last edited: Feb 19, 2013 17:29:15

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bigtikidude

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Posted on Feb 19 2013 05:49 PM

Yes, but. Don't bash away on it like a regular rock song.
Surf is all about the Ride cymbal.
Crash and hi-hat should be used sparingly.

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PrestonRice

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Posted on Feb 19 2013 06:24 PM

Depends. Thin, washy hats are great for surf. Intros are great spots for hats, and bridges.

Don't use thick, chunky hi hats, though. Those sound blech.

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Stormtiger

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Posted on Feb 19 2013 06:52 PM

Unless you are Dusty Watson. Listen to Jon & Nightriders Earthquake at Surf City, Slacktone's Rell Sunn Aloha and Blast Bolero. The hi hat abides.

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Brian

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Posted on Feb 19 2013 07:00 PM

tubesNtweed wrote:

You're tellin me. No offense but we need something else exciting to talk about besides same old gear threads and stuff like this. But what to talk about I don't know...

Oh I dunno, surf music?

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PrestonRice

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Posted on Feb 19 2013 07:02 PM

Dusty is amazing. His work with Slacktone is just killer.

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Surfersaurus

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Posted on Feb 19 2013 07:24 PM

Flight of the Surf Guitar -
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=17X6561NeTE

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tubesNtweed

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Posted on Feb 19 2013 07:30 PM

Brian wrote:

tubesNtweed wrote:

You're tellin me. No offense but we need something else exciting to talk about besides same old gear threads and stuff like this. But what to talk about I don't know...

Oh I dunno, surf music?

Brilliant!

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killbabykill34

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Posted on Feb 19 2013 07:49 PM

How about that? Discussing surf music... A novel idea... I will go further. How about we start discussing some current, new surf music. There is a ton of great music being made these days.

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Posted on Feb 19 2013 08:30 PM

"How about that? Discussing surf music... A novel idea... I will go further. How about we start discussing some current, new surf music. There is a ton of great music being made these days."

Here Here!
I love the first wave stuff as much as anybody, those old recordings can stop me dead in my tracks, the sound, the feel, BUT.....
Genres should grow and change and creating rigid guidelines such as does Hi Hat belong or how much, in my mind, limits the creative possibilities.

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pipeline50 Joined: Dec 26, 2012 Posts: 20 Chicago	Posted on Feb 19 2013 12:16 PM I play drums and, personally, I say No...anyone else? Top
Stormtiger Joined: Dec 12, 2006 Posts: 2683 Ventura, CA	Posted on Feb 19 2013 12:26 PM Is this a trick question? Top
psychonaut Joined: Dec 08, 2007 Posts: 1303	Posted on Feb 19 2013 12:31 PM Are you joking? I can think of 75 million examples of Hi-Hat use in Surf music. You might as well say the guitar has no place in surf. — https://www.facebook.com/coffindagger http://coffindaggers.com/ http://thecoffindaggers.bandcamp.com Top
norcalhodad Joined: May 25, 2006 Posts: 537	Posted on Feb 19 2013 12:34 PM This guy's hat is pretty high. — > Top
JONPAUL Joined: Apr 29, 2010 Posts: 2468 Venice, CA	Posted on Feb 19 2013 12:40 PM — Insect Surfers The Tikiyaki Orchestra The Scimitars Lords Of Atlantis Fiberglass Jungle - Surf Radio Top
LoeD Joined: Feb 29, 2012 Posts: 310 Germany	Posted on Feb 19 2013 12:43 PM sure they do have a place right next to the crash cymbal and the snare... — here comes the WEST SAMOA SURFER LEAGUE Top
killbabykill34 Joined: Apr 03, 2010 Posts: 3201 Jacksonville, AL	Posted on Feb 19 2013 12:48 PM I know that SG101 has been suffering from some lulls in conversation lately, but do we really need another one of these? — THE KBK ... This is the last known signal. We offer Sanctuary. www.thekbk.com http://www.deepeddy.net/artists/thekbk/ www.reverbnation.com/thekbk www.facebook.com/thekbkal Top
websurfer Joined: May 14, 2007 Posts: 1753	Posted on Feb 19 2013 01:04 PM pipeline50 wrote: I play drums and, personally, I say No...anyone else? If you are serious about it, I would urge anyone interested in this question to read the surf drumming subjective thoughts thread. Many of the best drummers in the genre give their thoughts on the use of the hi hat in surf, along with lots of other things. It's one of the best threads on the forum. (Short answer, it's not as easy as "yes or no".) http://surfguitar101.com/forums/topic/145/?page=1 Top
Brian Joined: Feb 25, 2006 Posts: 19295 Des Moines, Iowa, USA	Posted on Feb 19 2013 01:15 PM Good call websurfer. That Surf Drumming thread is a goldmine of information. — Site dude - S3 Agent #202 Need help with the site? SG101 FAQ - Send me a private message - Email me "It starts... when it begins" -- Ralf Kilauea Top
bu2b Joined: Nov 18, 2012 Posts: 32	Posted on Feb 19 2013 02:14 PM After all the time I have played the drums I have found that if you know your instrument and understand the music you would know where hats toms and such fit in. Experience will tell you. Top
tubesNtweed Joined: Sep 07, 2011 Posts: 507	Posted on Feb 19 2013 05:28 PM killbabykill34 wrote: I know that SG101 has been suffering from some lulls in conversation lately, but do we really need another one of these? You're tellin me. No offense but we need something else exciting to talk about besides same old gear threads and stuff like this. But what to talk about I don't know... Last edited: Feb 19, 2013 17:29:15 Top
bigtikidude Joined: Feb 27, 2006 Posts: 25568 Anaheim(So.Cal.)U.S.A.	Posted on Feb 19 2013 05:49 PM Yes, but. Don't bash away on it like a regular rock song. Surf is all about the Ride cymbal. Crash and hi-hat should be used sparingly. — Jeff(bigtikidude) Top
PrestonRice Joined: Oct 05, 2012 Posts: 1725 Austin, Texas	Posted on Feb 19 2013 06:24 PM Depends. Thin, washy hats are great for surf. Intros are great spots for hats, and bridges. Don't use thick, chunky hi hats, though. Those sound blech. — IMO. Top
Stormtiger Joined: Dec 12, 2006 Posts: 2683 Ventura, CA	Posted on Feb 19 2013 06:52 PM Unless you are Dusty Watson. Listen to Jon & Nightriders Earthquake at Surf City, Slacktone's Rell Sunn Aloha and Blast Bolero. The hi hat abides. Top
Brian Joined: Feb 25, 2006 Posts: 19295 Des Moines, Iowa, USA	Posted on Feb 19 2013 07:00 PM tubesNtweed wrote: You're tellin me. No offense but we need something else exciting to talk about besides same old gear threads and stuff like this. But what to talk about I don't know... Oh I dunno, surf music? — Site dude - S3 Agent #202 Need help with the site? SG101 FAQ - Send me a private message - Email me "It starts... when it begins" -- Ralf Kilauea Top
PrestonRice Joined: Oct 05, 2012 Posts: 1725 Austin, Texas	Posted on Feb 19 2013 07:02 PM Dusty is amazing. His work with Slacktone is just killer. — IMO. Top
Surfersaurus Joined: Feb 10, 2010 Posts: 352 Australia	Posted on Feb 19 2013 07:24 PM Flight of the Surf Guitar - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=17X6561NeTE Top
tubesNtweed Joined: Sep 07, 2011 Posts: 507	Posted on Feb 19 2013 07:30 PM Brian wrote: tubesNtweed wrote: You're tellin me. No offense but we need something else exciting to talk about besides same old gear threads and stuff like this. But what to talk about I don't know... Oh I dunno, surf music? Brilliant! Top
killbabykill34 Joined: Apr 03, 2010 Posts: 3201 Jacksonville, AL	Posted on Feb 19 2013 07:49 PM How about that? Discussing surf music... A novel idea... I will go further. How about we start discussing some current, new surf music. There is a ton of great music being made these days. — THE KBK ... This is the last known signal. We offer Sanctuary. www.thekbk.com http://www.deepeddy.net/artists/thekbk/ www.reverbnation.com/thekbk www.facebook.com/thekbkal Top
CrazyAces Joined: Jul 31, 2012 Posts: 4052 Nashville, TN.	Posted on Feb 19 2013 08:30 PM "How about that? Discussing surf music... A novel idea... I will go further. How about we start discussing some current, new surf music. There is a ton of great music being made these days." Here Here! I love the first wave stuff as much as anybody, those old recordings can stop me dead in my tracks, the sound, the feel, BUT..... Genres should grow and change and creating rigid guidelines such as does Hi Hat belong or how much, in my mind, limits the creative possibilities. — http://www.facebook.com/CrazyAcesMusic http://www.youtube.com/user/crazyacesrock http://www.reverbnation.com/crazyacesmusic Top

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