Recommend a mic for surf guitar recording

CrazyAces

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Posted on Dec 30 2012 10:52 AM

Vintagesurfdude, I just used one of those MXL 990's to single mic a drum kit from behind the kit, about 6 feet high. Sounded really good!

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Las_Barracudas

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Posted on Dec 30 2012 11:18 AM

I use an Audix I5, but a Shure SM57 is a tried and true workhorse.

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nedorama

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Posted on Dec 30 2012 01:56 PM

On close vs. room micing - no need to choose. Do both and record to 2 different tracks. Watch the phase and blend to taste. This way you have the best of both worlds. Your MXL will work fine as a mono room mic and get a e906 or a 57 for close micing.

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vintagesurfdude

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Posted on Dec 31 2012 12:48 AM

CrazyAces wrote:

Vintagesurfdude, I just used one of those MXL 990's to single mic a drum kit from behind the kit, about 6 feet high. Sounded really good!

And they're cheap too ! The wifey got me the recording kit (990 and a 991)from MF under $70 USD

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Aaron

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Posted on Jan 05 2013 05:38 PM

nedorama wrote:

On close vs. room micing - no need to choose. Do both and record to 2 different tracks. Watch the phase and blend to taste. This way you have the best of both worlds. Your MXL will work fine as a mono room mic and get a e906 or a 57 for close micing.

I just did this a couple weeks ago. I ran the room mic through a reverb petal to give it an even more open feel. It turned out great.

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pipeline50

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Chicago
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Posted on Jan 23 2013 11:23 PM

I've got a few vintage (70's) Shure Unidyne III 545's...i think they sound awesome and they are about $100.

http://www.musiciansfriend.com/pro-audio/shure-unidyne-iii-545sd-dual-impedance-unidirectional-microphone

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Aaron

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Posted on Feb 09 2013 06:47 PM

pipeline50 wrote:

I've got a few vintage (70's) Shure Unidyne III 545's...i think they sound awesome and they are about $100.

Try ebay. You can grab those for about $20 every once in a while.

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CrazyAces

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Posted on Feb 09 2013 07:17 PM

Spent the afternoon doing demos with a Nady RSM-5.
Sounded great!
Cheap!

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Noel

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Posted on Feb 10 2013 07:45 AM

CrazyAces wrote:

Spent the afternoon doing demos with a Nady RSM-5.
Sounded great!
Cheap!

Do you plug it directly into your iPad? The iPad seems to be the direction I'm going, though I just got a Tascam DR-05 so I can at least get started recording without completely taking over the PC I borrow.

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CrazyAces

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Posted on Feb 10 2013 10:33 AM

Noel,
Not this time. I ran it through my very basic Pro Tools rig consisting of my old iMac and an original series Mbox.
FWIW, this is a different Nady Ribbon Mic than I had mentioned previously and I like it more. A little crisper sounding. I still find these ribbon mics the easiest to use to get a good sound quickly without fuss of placement.
As has been stated before in this thread, it's tough to beat a Shure 57 but I like these ribbons more.
There are some nice, reasonably affordable mic pre's for use with the iPad available through the big box stores. One of those and a multitrack app or garageband and you're off and running although for demos and fun I almost always use the garageband amps. The demo I sent you a while back was all garageband amps.

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Noel

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Posted on Feb 10 2013 12:05 PM

That demo sounded great. Not using an actual amp; is that for the convenience? Do the amp simulators in Garageband really sound like actual amps recorded in a room, or isn't that natural room sound what you're after?

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CrazyAces

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Posted on Feb 10 2013 01:10 PM

Noel,
The amps in the iPad version of garageband sound pretty darn good, you can adjust the "knobs" on each amp just like a real amp.
As far as ambient sounds....you can add reverb and echo/delay to the guitar sounds or mix right in garageband.
It is quite convenient. I took a breather to answer your query but at the moment I'm doing a demo at our kitchen table with headphones on while my wife reads the paper. All sounds are being made on the iPad, amps etc. and I'll email you the song later so you can hear another demo using the built in sounds.
In contrast, the demo I was working on yesterday in pro tools, using real amps, I had mic cables, mics and mic stands all over the room, an amp blasting out (not too loud actually)....a lot of gear just to demo a song.
It's still easier than years ago, we've got it made but making todays demo is akin to surfing the web effort wise.

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CrazyAces Joined: Jul 31, 2012 Posts: 4053 Nashville, TN.	Posted on Dec 30 2012 10:52 AM Vintagesurfdude, I just used one of those MXL 990's to single mic a drum kit from behind the kit, about 6 feet high. Sounded really good! — http://www.facebook.com/CrazyAcesMusic http://www.youtube.com/user/crazyacesrock http://www.reverbnation.com/crazyacesmusic Top
Las_Barracudas Joined: Apr 24, 2011 Posts: 1087 Surf City, NC	Posted on Dec 30 2012 11:18 AM I use an Audix I5, but a Shure SM57 is a tried and true workhorse. — METEOR IV on reverbnation Top
nedorama Joined: Oct 10, 2009 Posts: 226 South Bay, CA	Posted on Dec 30 2012 01:56 PM On close vs. room micing - no need to choose. Do both and record to 2 different tracks. Watch the phase and blend to taste. This way you have the best of both worlds. Your MXL will work fine as a mono room mic and get a e906 or a 57 for close micing. — '65 Fender Tremolux, '74 Princeton; 77 Vibrolux Reverb; '81 Princeton Reverb '65-66 Hilgen Basso Grande Dr. Z MAZ 18 Jr. + 1x12 Cab Various Telecasters and noise-making pedals Farfisa Compact Duo Top
vintagesurfdude Joined: Nov 28, 2011 Posts: 795 Prescott Valley, AZ	Posted on Dec 31 2012 12:48 AM CrazyAces wrote: Vintagesurfdude, I just used one of those MXL 990's to single mic a drum kit from behind the kit, about 6 feet high. Sounded really good! And they're cheap too ! The wifey got me the recording kit (990 and a 991)from MF under $70 USD Top
Aaron Joined: Sep 13, 2011 Posts: 100	Posted on Jan 05 2013 05:38 PM nedorama wrote: On close vs. room micing - no need to choose. Do both and record to 2 different tracks. Watch the phase and blend to taste. This way you have the best of both worlds. Your MXL will work fine as a mono room mic and get a e906 or a 57 for close micing. I just did this a couple weeks ago. I ran the room mic through a reverb petal to give it an even more open feel. It turned out great. Top
pipeline50 Joined: Dec 26, 2012 Posts: 20 Chicago	Posted on Jan 23 2013 11:23 PM I've got a few vintage (70's) Shure Unidyne III 545's...i think they sound awesome and they are about $100. http://www.musiciansfriend.com/pro-audio/shure-unidyne-iii-545sd-dual-impedance-unidirectional-microphone Top
Aaron Joined: Sep 13, 2011 Posts: 100	Posted on Feb 09 2013 06:47 PM pipeline50 wrote: I've got a few vintage (70's) Shure Unidyne III 545's...i think they sound awesome and they are about $100. Try ebay. You can grab those for about $20 every once in a while. Top
CrazyAces Joined: Jul 31, 2012 Posts: 4053 Nashville, TN.	Posted on Feb 09 2013 07:17 PM Spent the afternoon doing demos with a Nady RSM-5. Sounded great! Cheap! — http://www.facebook.com/CrazyAcesMusic http://www.youtube.com/user/crazyacesrock http://www.reverbnation.com/crazyacesmusic Top
Noel Joined: Mar 15, 2011 Posts: 8528 Back in Piitsburgh, Pennsylvania, where I grew up.	Posted on Feb 10 2013 07:45 AM CrazyAces wrote: Spent the afternoon doing demos with a Nady RSM-5. Sounded great! Cheap! Do you plug it directly into your iPad? The iPad seems to be the direction I'm going, though I just got a Tascam DR-05 so I can at least get started recording without completely taking over the PC I borrow. — This is Noel. Reverb's at maximum an' I'm givin' 'er all she's got. Top
CrazyAces Joined: Jul 31, 2012 Posts: 4053 Nashville, TN.	Posted on Feb 10 2013 10:33 AM Noel, Not this time. I ran it through my very basic Pro Tools rig consisting of my old iMac and an original series Mbox. FWIW, this is a different Nady Ribbon Mic than I had mentioned previously and I like it more. A little crisper sounding. I still find these ribbon mics the easiest to use to get a good sound quickly without fuss of placement. As has been stated before in this thread, it's tough to beat a Shure 57 but I like these ribbons more. There are some nice, reasonably affordable mic pre's for use with the iPad available through the big box stores. One of those and a multitrack app or garageband and you're off and running although for demos and fun I almost always use the garageband amps. The demo I sent you a while back was all garageband amps. — http://www.facebook.com/CrazyAcesMusic http://www.youtube.com/user/crazyacesrock http://www.reverbnation.com/crazyacesmusic Top
Noel Joined: Mar 15, 2011 Posts: 8528 Back in Piitsburgh, Pennsylvania, where I grew up.	Posted on Feb 10 2013 12:05 PM That demo sounded great. Not using an actual amp; is that for the convenience? Do the amp simulators in Garageband really sound like actual amps recorded in a room, or isn't that natural room sound what you're after? — This is Noel. Reverb's at maximum an' I'm givin' 'er all she's got. Top
CrazyAces Joined: Jul 31, 2012 Posts: 4053 Nashville, TN.	Posted on Feb 10 2013 01:10 PM Noel, The amps in the iPad version of garageband sound pretty darn good, you can adjust the "knobs" on each amp just like a real amp. As far as ambient sounds....you can add reverb and echo/delay to the guitar sounds or mix right in garageband. It is quite convenient. I took a breather to answer your query but at the moment I'm doing a demo at our kitchen table with headphones on while my wife reads the paper. All sounds are being made on the iPad, amps etc. and I'll email you the song later so you can hear another demo using the built in sounds. In contrast, the demo I was working on yesterday in pro tools, using real amps, I had mic cables, mics and mic stands all over the room, an amp blasting out (not too loud actually)....a lot of gear just to demo a song. It's still easier than years ago, we've got it made but making todays demo is akin to surfing the web effort wise. — http://www.facebook.com/CrazyAcesMusic http://www.youtube.com/user/crazyacesrock http://www.reverbnation.com/crazyacesmusic Top

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