Hi guys, I'm a newbie here, been lurking for a long time. I've got a '63 reissue tank that I use in my Surf/Instro band but I don't need it for everysong so I've been using the footswitch to bypass it. I've noticed that it drastically changes the tone. is there anything that can be done about it? Other than unplugging it when i don't need it?b thanks!
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Bypassed Reverb Tank Tone Suck
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Joined: Dec 15, 2012 Posts: 11 Carbondale, IL 
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Posted on Jan 16 2013 01:06 PM
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Joined: Oct 13, 2011 Posts: 251 Byron Bay, Australia 
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Posted on Jan 16 2013 02:22 PM
Hey Andrew, For me its not a huge change in volume buts its there. I have a set of songs I use the tank for and some songs I use digital reverb for, I have just got use to reaching over to the amp master volume and adjusting. —'Surf Music Lasts Forever' Last edited: Jan 16, 2013 14:23:48 |
Joined: Apr 03, 2010 Posts: 3201 Jacksonville, AL
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Posted on Jan 16 2013 02:31 PM
I have only recently moved up to a full-on tank. However, I have about 3 years using the FRV-1 63 Reverb Pedal. When disengaged there was always a volume drop, which I assumed was characteristic of the original outboard. Worst Case, I would consider using an A/B box to switch. However, I have a feeling that the inherrant characteristics of the reverb create a volume leap when on, and when off the volume is closer to your actual signal. —THE KBK ... This is the last known signal. We offer Sanctuary. www.thekbk.com |
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Joined: Dec 15, 2012 Posts: 11 Carbondale, IL
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Posted on Jan 16 2013 02:54 PM
Thanks guys. I'll either mess with the master or use my nocturne pedal to boost the signal. — |
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Joined: Apr 03, 2010 Posts: 3201 Jacksonville, AL
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Posted on Jan 16 2013 03:08 PM
You might also consider a boost pedal(Which the Nocture substitutes nicely for) to accomodate the volume drop. —THE KBK ... This is the last known signal. We offer Sanctuary. www.thekbk.com |
Joined: Feb 26, 2006 Posts: 12159 Seattle 
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Posted on Jan 16 2013 03:53 PM
A reverb unit is a pre-amp, essentially. The pre-amp that goes in front of 95% of surf recordings. It is just part of the sound. You can always pull it out of the chain with an a/b/whatever cable. Probably your best best! |
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Joined: Dec 15, 2012 Posts: 11 Carbondale, IL
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Posted on Jan 16 2013 08:36 PM
Thanks Jake. I'm really just concerned about the tone of the guitar when I'm not using teh tank. I've got an A/B pedal. I'll try that. — |
Joined: Jul 01, 2006 Posts: 657
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Posted on Jan 17 2013 07:59 AM
andrewstaff wrote:
Use a true-bypass loop switcher to remove it from the chain. This is a normal characteristic of a Fender Reverb Unit. Some people like the tone change created from the "loading" of the signal by the Reverb Unit. Realize also, that if you use the Reverb Unit footswitch, the pure reverb signal travels down that cable to the switch, and can degrade the reverb sound. |
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Posted on Jan 18 2013 11:09 AM
Something like the Boss LS-2 might work well since it will allow you to set the level of the reverb unit in relation to the bypassed signal. |
Joined: Aug 23, 2006 Posts: 2123 The jungle 
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Posted on Jan 18 2013 09:30 PM
Just turn the dwell knob down. — |
Joined: Feb 26, 2006 Posts: 1339 Escondido, CA
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Posted on Jan 18 2013 09:59 PM
That is one of the main reasons I have a loop switching device (that and crappy $50 Fender tuner pedal). Ran — |
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Posted on Jan 19 2013 03:24 AM
This could put the reverb unit in it's own loop. And it has a volume boost you use if needed. The Tonebone products I've used have been great as far as maintaining your signal's tone; relatively expensive but quality products. When the effects are out of the loop you get a "plugged straight into the amp" sound , versus a lot of A/B or switch boxes I've used which seem to degrade your guitar's sound. http://www.tonebone.com/tb-loopbone.htm Last edited: Jan 19, 2013 03:29:29 |
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Posted on Jan 20 2013 05:07 AM
SlacktoneDave wrote:
Is this true about the Deluxe/Super/Twin Reverb amps' reverb and tremolo effects? —https://zakandthekrakens.bandcamp.com/ |
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Joined: Dec 15, 2012 Posts: 11 Carbondale, IL
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Posted on Jan 20 2013 08:05 AM
I've never noticed that with the effects on my Deluxe. I think it has to do with the Outboard unit being it's own preamp. The reverb and trem circuits in the amp com after the preamp stage. — |
Joined: Mar 02, 2006 Posts: 1683 Georgia
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Posted on Jan 20 2013 09:54 AM
LHR wrote:
This is what I've always done and it seems easier than anything else being suggested. —The Mystery Men? |
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Posted on Jan 20 2013 10:58 AM
LHR wrote:
I think the Mix knob is what you want to turn to 0. |
Joined: Feb 27, 2006 Posts: 25704 Anaheim(So.Cal.)U.S.A.
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Posted on Jan 20 2013 10:30 PM
SlacktoneDave wrote:
I was gonna say that too, but I didn't. Jeff(bigtikidude) Last edited: Jan 21, 2013 23:07:29 |
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Posted on Jan 21 2013 04:34 PM
I've only had a tank for 3 weeks, so for what its worth ... turning down the dwell seems to be the best way to "turn off" the unit without using the footswitch. Using the mix control changes the volume of the dry signal and when turning it up the dry signal lowers a bit. And looking at the schematic turning the dwell all the way down simply stops any signal from going to the tank and retains the character of the dry signal. YMMV. |
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Posted on Jan 21 2013 05:13 PM
Thanks for the confirmation Deadlands |
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