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Permalink Strymon Flint, still digging it?

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After being happy with the quality of my El Capistan, I recently picked up a Flint. The main attraction was it has my two favorite effects in one compact box. Build quality is great and the technology of the Strymon stuff is always pretty slick.
Overall I love it. While it doesn't top real tube/spring units and I don't see me ever using it in the studio I do feel it's a great addition to my live rig, especially if I'm feeling lazy and don't want to take my tanks out.
A few folks posted about these when they came out, do you sill like them?

Glad to hear you're digging it!
I'm still lusting after one super hard.

Just out of curiosity, is the 60's reverb more amp style or reverb unit style?

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Fortunately I had some money to spent a couple of months ago, so I bought one. The most expensive pedal I ever bought. I really love the Flint for its hifi sounds. The 80's reverb is great for ambient and the tremelo sounds are even better than my Voodoo Labs, that I hardly use since I got the Flint.
The spring reverb isn't drippy enough though, I use my FRV-1 for the real surfy stuff (sorry good tanks are hard to get in Europe). But the Flint is my go to rockabilly sound, (in combination with a slabback echo).

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I like my Strymon El Capistan a lot, but I haven't tried the Flint. However, anyone looking for a pedal emulation of a reverb tank should be made aware of the new Digitech Hardwire Supernatural Reverb pedal. I haven't tried one, but the demos sound INCREDIBLE. There's an SG101 thread about it already: http://surfguitar101.com/forums/topic/20152/
Check it out! Only $179 (only available through ProGuitarShop, for some reason).

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I have to agree with Ivan. The Digitech Hardwire Supernatural Reverb, based on the demo videos, seems to finally be another good pedal substitute for a tank, along side the Boss FRV-1.

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Yep, I'm easily influenced..... My Hardwire Supernatural will be here this week. Damn youse guys!

David, I'd say this is probably closer to amp style in terms of overall sound. Nothing really compares to the real deal though. Space in the band vehicle has become an issue so I've been forced to downsize!

I haven't gotten a chance to try the Flint.

I really like the '63 Spring in the Line 6 M9. I also have Build Your Own Clone Reverb2 that I put together that sounds surprisingly good.

For non-spring I love the old Alesis Wedge reverb. It's a line level device, so it needs to be run in an effects loop. Still, it's great for really big, atmospheric, long, ambient reverbs.

Of course, I always prefer to use the 'verb in my old Pro Reverb when I can.

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arny wrote:

The spring reverb isn't drippy enough though, I use my FRV-1 for the real surfy stuff (sorry good tanks are hard to get in Europe). But the Flint is my go to rockabilly sound, (in combination with a slabback echo).

The spring reverb isnt drippy enough??? Good joke. Sorry but you dont use the Flint in the RIGHT way I guess! You have to learn and understand this pedal.
There is a range where the spring reverb sound is simply fantastic.
Mix about 6 or 7 or a little bit more, color about 5, 6 or 7, Decay also about 5,6 or 7. Not more!
Then you get perfect surf sounds.
I use the Flint live and for studio meanwhile.
Flint and El Capistan: For me the best pedals ever!
And I have got really good sounding reverb tanks, believe me.

...just my Flinty cents... Smile

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ERay wrote:

While it doesn't top real tube/spring units and I don't see me ever using it in the studio

Hm, for me it tops real tube/spring units easily. So the Flint is the REAL deal for me.
In a studio its good to try different things. I would try the Flint AND tanks. You cant take a decision before trying it, man.

Two days ago I was in a studio for recording and the studio boss was asking me for the Flint pedal, haha! He had also Reverb tanks, but the best sound and real deal was the Flint again. Smile (When the recording and mastering and everything is done I can send a link to the sound.)

...the BOSS FRV1 pedal is total crap for me! I sold it very fast. I know many people like it but for me it was also wasted money. The BOSS didn`t worked for me (I speak from playing live, not at home!).

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ERay wrote:

David, I'd say this is probably closer to amp style in terms of overall sound. Nothing really compares to the real deal though.

The Flint is far away from an amp style reverb.
I don`t agree with you at all.

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ERay wrote:

Yep, I'm easily influenced..... My Hardwire Supernatural will be here this week. Damn youse guys!

Let us know what you think. I use the Digitech Hardwire Reverb now and its great.

I was trying to remember what Hardwire pedal you were using JD.I'll let you know what I think of the Supernatural once I've had a chance to monkey with it.
Yeah Ralf, it is definitely nice and I anticipate using the hell out of it but something about the modern technology doesn't quite give me the drive a real tube unit does. This is a very subjective topic, what sounds great to you may not sound so great to the next guy.

ERay wrote:

Yeah Ralf, it is definitely nice and I anticipate using the hell out of it but something about the modern technology doesn't quite give me the drive a real tube unit does. This is a very subjective topic, what sounds great to you may not sound so great to the next guy.

Yes, its subjective at last. And.... maybe in half a year I will say "Dont use this digital pedal!!!". This can happen. My ears are not the same every week.
At last its the same with guitar sounds: This week my Yamaha is the noplusultra in surf sound and next week its one of my Jazzmasters again.

Have a nice reverb day!

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HallmarkSweptWinger wrote:

ERay wrote:

David, I'd say this is probably closer to amp style in terms of overall sound. Nothing really compares to the real deal though.

The Flint is far away from an amp style reverb.
I don`t agree with you at all.

According to Strymon the spring reverb sound on the Flint is, in fact, modeled after a "60's combo amp spring tank". They even mention that is specifically different than the "3-spring stand-alone counterpart". Which is weird that they say that, standalone units have traditionally been 2-spring tanks.

http://www.strymon.net/2012/04/12/flint-reverb-summary-paper-three-classic-reverb-types/

Last edited: Jan 30, 2013 14:31:11

I got the Supernatural about a month ago and used it at a few rehearsals.
General impression is that it is a very good impersonation of a spring reverb but not significantly better than the Boss FRV-1, just different.

It doesn't have the harshness of the FRV-1 and has more drip, but it is very dark sounding even with the liveliness (tone) control all the way up. Played solo it sounds great, but in a band mix it doesn't cut though in certain situations. It also has a very full sound, which again sometimes just made the overall band mix muddy.

The opinion of the rest of the band was that it sounded better for some songs but that they were very close.

In the end, when it was time for a gig I stuck with the FRV-1 and sent the Supernatural back. I will be trying out the Styman Flint though.

This was just based on the spring settings of course. The other settings sounded great.

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Reverb17 wrote: I got the Supernatural about a month ago and used it at a few rehearsals.
General impression is that it is a very good impersonation of a spring reverb but not significantly better than the Boss FRV-1, just different.

Thanks for the heads up. I think I'll pass on the supernatural and start saving for a tank. I'd love to hear a side by side of the Flint vs. FRV-1 ,I'm really starting to dislike my FRV-1.

I initially bought my Flint for the trem side, but the reverb side is really, really good. It won't beat a tank, but I've found I sometimes like it better than the onboard reverb on my 60s Bandmaster Reverb. Since that's what they stated they were emulating, I think that says a lot.

I tried my friends FRV-1 once, and I don't think it comes even close to the Flint, much less a real tank.

IvanP wrote:

I like my Strymon El Capistan a lot, but I haven't tried the Flint. However, anyone looking for a pedal emulation of a reverb tank should be made aware of the new Digitech Hardwire Supernatural Reverb pedal. I haven't tried one, but the demos sound INCREDIBLE. There's an SG101 thread about it already: http://surfguitar101.com/forums/topic/20152/
Check it out! Only $179 (only available through ProGuitarShop, for some reason).

Pro Guitar Shop are the "go to" shop for pedals, so every now and again they get in touch with companies to build them exclusive versions of pedals. The original Solid Gold FX "deluxe" reverb, the Catalinbread Galileo etc. The Supernatural is another.

FWIW A guy who seems to know his stuff on another forum has both the standard Hardwire RV-7 and the Supernatural. Prefers the RV-7 live and the Supernatural for recording.

Last edited: Feb 04, 2013 15:00:51

I got the Strymon Flint about 3 weeks ago, and after having used it at a couple of rehearsals and a gig, I'd have to say it's the real deal.

While it may not have as much drip as a real tank, it has enough for most surf applications. It also has more drip than the Boss FRV-1 without the harshness.

I'm not sure if it is patterned after the tank or on-board reverb, but by using the the decay control, I was able to get good long & short spring simulations.
Another cool feature is being able to boost the volume to make up for any loss of bass with the extreme settings.

The tremolo settings are extra cool. My favorite being the '63 tube tremolo. The '61 harmonic tremolo setting has a great vibrato feel.

At $300 it is pretty reasonable when you consider you are getting 2 great effects in 1 box.

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Last edited: Apr 08, 2013 13:29:27

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