Latherman87
Joined: Dec 20, 2012
Posts: 178
Oklahoma
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Posted on Jan 07 2013 09:20 PM
Ok some of you may consider this sacrilegious to the art of surf guitar......I DO NOT KNOW MY CHORDS. With that said can anyone recommend a good video or site that I can teach myself properly...iv played guitar for over 10 years but never taught myself chords.....I only played around with tabs and thats all. I now wish I had learned my chords because I feel it is really hindering my learning of the 'surf' guitar. So even without knowing my chords does anyone know of a good song that I can learn on guitar thats surf style? No tremolo picking or anything...something chill and relaxing like the song "The Breeze and I" ...Slacktones rendition. Anyways....any advice will be greatly appreciated.....I need help and trying to learn surf guitar has made me realize what a poor guitar player I am. Gimme Metallica or anything and I can play it for you in a flash minus solos...but my god tell me to play you a surf song without a single mistake or having to pause in the middle of playing...you can forget about it. I want to be a better player but cant really afford guitar lessons so I dont know what to do.I want to know all the basics of beginner surf guitar but it seems all the videos on youtube lack what I really want to know...or maybe its because I dont quite know how to put into words what im wanting to really learn...I dunno. And if I do learn chords for surf...what chords are the most common? Thanks in advance I really appreciate any and all input.
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Brett
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PrestonRice
Joined: Oct 05, 2012
Posts: 1725
Austin, Texas
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Posted on Jan 07 2013 09:33 PM
Minor chords are great. God knows I hate stapp, but creed's one last breath was an amazing help for my guitar in general. Helps finger independence like nothing else, so you can learn melodies over bass lines. Try walk don't run too, It's fairly easy and will teach some bar chords. Also surfing safari has a great surfy chord progression. Probably all bad suggestions, but try them.
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Latherman87
Joined: Dec 20, 2012
Posts: 178
Oklahoma
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Posted on Jan 07 2013 09:36 PM
Altar wrote:
Minor chords are great. God knows I hate stapp, but creed's one last breath was an amazing help for my guitar in general. Helps finger independence like nothing else, so you can learn melodies over bass lines. Try walk don't run too, It's fairly easy and will teach some bar chords. Also surfing safari has a great surfy chord progression. Probably all bad suggestions, but try them.
Hey thats more info then I had to begin with so I will definitely give them a try! Thanks!
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Brett
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Staredge
Joined: Sep 27, 2008
Posts: 1149
Damascus, Maryland
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Posted on Jan 07 2013 09:46 PM
— Will
"You're done, once you're a surfer you're done. You're in. It's like the mob or something. You're not getting out." - Kelly Slater
The Luau Cinders
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PrestonRice
Joined: Oct 05, 2012
Posts: 1725
Austin, Texas
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Posted on Jan 07 2013 09:54 PM
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normj
Joined: Apr 26, 2010
Posts: 882
central Indiana
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Posted on Jan 07 2013 09:59 PM
Hello there,
First here is a chord chart in a PDF file. Download it and keep it handy.
http://www.humboldtmusic.com/resources/guitarchords.pdf
Barre Chords are the beginner's nightmare. Congrats you avoided them, but sooner or later we all got to learn them. The key is to get the technique right. Here is a video. This guy does a pretty good job of explaining how to form barre chords.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PvVj1TZ4r_4
Take some of the songs you know the lead part for. Record a track of the lead part for a few of those. Then grab the chords for the rhythm part for those songs. Play the rhythm part as you play back your recorded lead part. You already know those songs, so you can get a feel for the rhythm part much faster.
I see kids all the time on Yahoo Answers all hung up on strum patterns. Don't sweat it. Strum patterns are some mix of up and down. Practice some chords doing both so you hear the difference in sound. Yes, the same chord does sound different depending on whether you strum down or up. Create your own strum patterns to go along with those lead parts you recorded.
If you don't know arpeggios, work on those. A nice way to play a chord but work in a differnet feel.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gtNC1Mfkfwg
Talk to you later,
Norm
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PrestonRice
Joined: Oct 05, 2012
Posts: 1725
Austin, Texas
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Posted on Jan 07 2013 10:05 PM
Agreed. Barre chords are easier if you start with a good setup and light strings, and work up in gauges.
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Latherman87
Joined: Dec 20, 2012
Posts: 178
Oklahoma
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Posted on Jan 07 2013 10:51 PM
Thanks guys thats going to help me ALOT!!!tomorrow I will get started on this stuff for sure!
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Brett
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DannySnyder
Joined: Mar 02, 2006
Posts: 11053
Berkeley, CA
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Posted on Jan 07 2013 11:38 PM
Here's how I learned: The Ramones first album, play along every night for a month, ignore the pain.
— Danny Snyder
"With great reverb comes great responsibility" - Uncle Leo
Playing keys and guitar with Combo Tezeta
Formerly a guitarist in The TomorrowMen and Meshugga Beach Party
Latest surf project - Now That's What I Call SURF
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dp
Joined: Feb 26, 2006
Posts: 3546
mojave desert, california
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Posted on Jan 08 2013 09:28 AM
DannySnyder wrote:
Here's how I learned: The Ramones first album, play along every night for a month, ignore the pain.
Danny, I did the same thing but I played along with: The Clash, DEVO, B-52s, Ramones, Black Flag, Adolescents and Agent Orange.
For a couple years, all I knew were those "punk two-finger power chords", eventually I learned the more standard barre chords (E-shape, A-shape, Em-shape, Am-shape, and C-shape). Lastly, about two or three years into playing guitar, I finally learned some open chord shapes and started learning some scale/mode patterns.
My main focus in music has been bass playing: my initial reason learning any guitar at all was in order to understand what the guitar players were trying to do on their instruments.
Eventually, I was able to develop a minimal skill set on guitar.
I didn't use tab much until about 1995 or so...by then, I had 15 years fiddling around with the guitar.
The one book that helped me out all along the way was "The Guitar Handbook" by Ralph Denyer. It's one book I would recommend for any guitarist/bassist.
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norcalhodad
Joined: May 25, 2006
Posts: 537
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Posted on Jan 08 2013 09:41 AM
I'd also suggest learning triad chord shapes, both major and minor key, up and down the neck, concentrating on those with the root note on the hi-E, B, and G strings. Pretty easy stuff and very useful for both rhythm and lead parts.
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dp
Joined: Feb 26, 2006
Posts: 3546
mojave desert, california
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Posted on Jan 08 2013 09:46 AM
norcalhodad wrote:
I'd also suggest learning triad chord shapes, both major and minor key, up and down the neck, concentrating on those with the root note on the hi-E, B, and G strings. Pretty easy stuff and very useful for both rhythm and lead parts.
Like Townshend'd "D-shaped Tommy-and-Live-at-Leeds-chords"?
Or like The Brothers Johnson/ James Brown super-funky high-string partial-chord triads?
My favorite triad is D Boon's (MINUTEMEN) "power triangle" chord shape!
Last edited: Jan 08, 2013 09:47:03
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Jay77
Joined: Nov 22, 2012
Posts: 71
Kitchener, ON
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Posted on Jan 08 2013 12:22 PM
Learn basic theory such as the major scale, intervals, triads, 7ths, pentatonics, relative minors, and modes.... that should keep you busy but not overloaded, and it will help your general playing immensely. Good luck!
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Latherman87
Joined: Dec 20, 2012
Posts: 178
Oklahoma
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Posted on Jan 08 2013 05:27 PM
dp wrote:
DannySnyder wrote:
Here's how I learned: The Ramones first album, play along every night for a month, ignore the pain.
Danny, I did the same thing but I played along with: The Clash, DEVO, B-52s, Ramones, Black Flag, Adolescents and Agent Orange.
For a couple years, all I knew were those "punk two-finger power chords", eventually I learned the more standard barre chords (E-shape, A-shape, Em-shape, Am-shape, and C-shape). Lastly, about two or three years into playing guitar, I finally learned some open chord shapes and started learning some scale/mode patterns.
My main focus in music has been bass playing: my initial reason learning any guitar at all was in order to understand what the guitar players were trying to do on their instruments.
Eventually, I was able to develop a minimal skill set on guitar.
I didn't use tab much until about 1995 or so...by then, I had 15 years fiddling around with the guitar.
The one book that helped me out all along the way was "The Guitar Handbook" by Ralph Denyer. It's one book I would recommend for any guitarist/bassist.
I actually forgot I own that book!!
— If you want the ultimate,you gotta be willing to pay the ultimate price.
Brett
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Rich
Joined: Jan 20, 2013
Posts: 30
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Posted on Jan 24 2013 07:13 PM
Miserlou can be played with virtually no chords, though you need to master double picking.
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