bigtikidude wrote:

anybody else get this?
or is Santa bringing it for x-mas?

I'm in the Santa camp, and really stoked about it!

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I got this and am very pleased. There is a ton of rare hard to find songs, and I'm pleased. If anyone has any questions let me know. I grabbed mine from itunes.

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LHR wrote:

Why not rip the discs and then use the open source TagScanner to update the ID3 metadata?

Where does TagScanner get the metadata from?

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Received this collection as a Christmas gift.
Really enjoying it. It is interesting to me though that the majority of these songs don't sound like they were played through Showmans.
I hear a myriad of other amps used. Very cool.

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ElMonstroPorFavor wrote:

The database that VLC media player uses already has it.

Why not rip the discs and then use the open source TagScanner to update the ID3 metadata?

you just made my life much better

It does seem to be the case that the album lacks metadata, while many others have it. Was this a deliberate design decision? Anyone have a pointer on the general subject?

Interesting, Brian. I definitely uploaded all four disks worth of material to the GraceNote service that iTunes uses. Using iTunes. But I did it in order, so perhaps there is some sort of a verifying process still playing out for 3 and 4. I did 1 and then a week or two later 2-4. If it were me the verifying process would involve comparing multiple uploads and taking into account whether the stuff came from the CD itself or had been hand entered, which mine was.

I am convinced there are CDs with the information built in and this set seems to lack that. iTunes seems to generate disks with the information in if you burn something. My belief that the information is sometimes already there comes from Real Player (which I think used to ask if you wanted it included in burns) and from the fact that GraceNote sometimes recognizes all the songs but wants to have you agree to submit the data when you first import the CD. Maybe I am wrong or confused.

My process for manually annotating and uploading is to indicate, when asked, that I don't want to import. Then I hand enter the data (pain in the butt) by selecting Get Info to assign the repeated parts and using tab or, better, clicking to move from field to field for the rest. Then I indicate manually that I want to submit CD track names (under Options) and then import.

They insist on some kind of genre information, but don't like many of the available options in the application, especially any you have added yourself. They don't seem to offer any at all that are reasonable for surf music. This is the point at which surf music gets coded as World or Religious or something else amusing by frustrated uploaders.

You can also annotate after importing, but at that point you can't submit the data any more.

All that said, I found this reference:

http://www.gracenote.com/company/faq/#upload

I thank you for your data entry efforts. I hope to reap the benefits of your work on discs 3 & 4 soon.

If you pop a CD into a computer drive you typically see a bunch of .wav files. I don't know if the .wav specification allows for track & artist metadata. Edit: Just checked, doesn't appear to allow that

I suspect there may be some disc formats that do have the meta data on them, because I remember a few years ago some car stereos were advertising that they could display such info if present on the disc. I get the impression most commercial music discs do not come with this information.

Gracenote makes it seem like they take your information in 2-3 days. But I can't help but wonder if they wait till they get at least X submissions and then maybe wait until enough submissions agree with each other. I'm just making that up. That's what I would do.

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spskins wrote:

Free rip has it for all 4 discs.
My disc 3 won't boot in 3 different computers, but plays fine in CD player...

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Ah, very interesting. See also http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CDDB.

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