IvanP
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Posted on Dec 04 2012 09:51 PM
While watching the History Channel earlier today, I saw a preview of Wednesday night's episode of a show by name of American Restoration, and it'll be at least partially about a vintage Mosrite Ventures Model. (I don't watch this show, so I have no idea how good it is.) Wednesday, December 5th, 9 pm EST. I plan on tuning in, what the heck, could be interesting....
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JohnnyMosrite
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Posted on Dec 05 2012 06:47 AM
Ivan,
Thnaks for the heads-ups. A.R. is one of my favorite shows. The host and owner - by coincidence - is Rick (not Dick) Dale. He is a whiz at restoring what most would call junk. Top notch work.
Having restored several Mosrites over the years, I'll get to compare notes.. maybe I can learn something new.
He should have an easier time of it than I had. More Mosrite parts are available now than as rececent as 5 years ago.
thanks again, Ivan
J Mo'
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thefacialsgaragepunk
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Posted on Dec 05 2012 07:49 AM
Ah, I wish I could see it. If it ever appears on youtube, please share a link:-)
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skeeter
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Posted on Dec 05 2012 03:49 PM
Thanks for the heads up Ivan.That will be interesting.
I hope the guitar is not in working condition. Doesn't restoring a vintage guitar in working condition just decrease the value?
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brandonio
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Posted on Dec 05 2012 05:19 PM
I'll probably watch it tomorrow when it goes on up in Ixfinity on-demand
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psychonaut
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Posted on Dec 06 2012 06:53 AM
I think they had the Ed Roman guys refinish it. You couldn't possibly refinish a guitar in a couple of days, especially if the guy had no idea how to do it, and it was done in laquer, it would take at least a month. Also, they didn't show any of the process like they do for everything else they restore on that show. Thank heavens they didn't "customize" it
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WoodyJ
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Posted on Dec 06 2012 08:35 AM
psychonaut wrote:
Also, they didn't show any of the process like they do for everything else they restore on that show. Thank heavens they didn't "customize" it
Ditto on what psychonaut said...
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JONPAUL
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Posted on Dec 06 2012 08:59 AM
My favorite moment was when the Ed Roman guys were "educating" them about The Ventures, and just as they uttered that "The Ventures played Mosrites exclusively," an early press photo of them with Fenders was shown! Classic!
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DNAdude
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Posted on Dec 06 2012 09:22 AM
thefacialsgaragepunk wrote:
Ah, I wish I could see it. If it ever appears on youtube, please share a link:-)
History channel puts episodes online. The episode is Call the Count.
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Sonichris
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Posted on Dec 06 2012 10:18 AM
I watched it, and had to laugh. - I've had the "pleasure" of talking to the Ed Roman guy. He was nice as could be on the show, but that wasn't my experience. Total jerk...
The guitar looked good when it was finished. I don't think Rick did it.
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DNAdude
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Posted on Dec 06 2012 11:13 AM
Just watched it...now I'm sad...
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Brian
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Posted on Dec 06 2012 11:34 AM
I didn't see the show, but Ed Roman passed away in December 2011. Was he on it?
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DNAdude
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Posted on Dec 06 2012 11:39 AM
I don't think so. They worked for Ed Roman guitars, but the main guy was named....Scott...I think...if I'm wrong someone here will correct me 
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IvanP
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Posted on Dec 06 2012 11:51 AM
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skeeter
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Posted on Dec 06 2012 12:23 PM
Yeah, it was a bit of a let down.
I still think the guitar was probably worth more before they restored it.
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websurfer
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Posted on Dec 06 2012 12:48 PM
JONPAUL wrote:
My favorite moment was when the Ed Roman guys were "educating" them about The Ventures, and just as they uttered that "The Ventures played Mosrites exclusively," an early press photo of them with Fenders was shown! Classic!
I know they are trying to go with local (Vegas) instrument appraisers on these shows, but I am usually underwhelmed by their knowledge. Pawn Stars (which AR was spun off from) uses a guy from Cowtown guitars for on air guitar appraisals and history. He's o.k. but I thought he kind of blew it on the Ricky Frypan lap steel. He's better on the rock history, but still doesn't strike me as authoritative as the experts they bring in on other items.
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JohnnyMosrite
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Posted on Dec 06 2012 01:38 PM
Well.. I learned nothing from the episode and, frankly, I think I've done better work. Rick Dale seems to know his limitations so I have to think for the job done, (BTW the string action was still a bit high IMHO) it looks like the late Eddy Roman and his bandits did the job. That nitro job wasn't over a few days, either. We all have our thing and our limitations..
On the plus side
The correct trem arm was added, the body holes and dings filled. And it looks like it may have gotten a fret job and original frets are not to be had. (I've used mandolin fret wire)
This guitar is what I call a "mixed breed" - truss rod at base of neck but M knobs instead of smooth knobs. Moseley instead of Vibramute tailpiece. I have to say this a transitional model (if all correct) from late 1965 to early 1966.
The custom strap was a nice thought but a little too "Vegas razzle-dazzle" for my tastes - give me plain black.
Hope the kid enjoys it.
J Mo'
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Surfgitar
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Posted on Dec 07 2012 10:07 AM
IvanP wrote:
The whole thing was pretty disappointing.... 
Agreed. The only impression I was left with was it's nice to be liked by Rick Dale's wife. (And I wonder what she orignally paid for the beater.)
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JohnnyMosrite
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Posted on Dec 08 2012 09:38 AM
She might have scored it for $1500-$2000 and figure the restoration was at least another $1K or so. I doubt if R.D. actually did it.. there wasn't any scenes of the guitar apart for cleaning or paint, was there?
The kid is in for some hassle getting a case for it. An original brown alligator case is around $300.00 today - if you can find one. The typical stratocaster/telecaster Guitar Center case won't fit. Others cases might have "Ibanez" or "Kramer" stamped on them.
Biggest hassle I've had in restoring Mosrites - getting an original or plain black case that fits.
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vintagesurfdude
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Posted on Dec 09 2012 12:56 PM
Shoulda left it the heck alone. I'd expect the refin to drop the value. But I'm not a Mosrite expert. Anybody know for sure?
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