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Found this on Chciago's Craigslist

http://chicago.craigslist.org/nch/msg/3406473004.html

Vintage pre CBS 1964 Fender Jazzmaster - Sunburst

$5695.00

This 1964 Fender Jazzmaster is a highly collectable investment instrument. There's just not that many around anymore in this condition so they command a much higher price.
This guitar will increase in value at a much higher rate being pre CBS.

This '64 is in totally original condition with no issues other than normal wear, minor nicks and scratches from playing it over the years.
The neck is a beautiful Birdseye maple. It plays like a Dream and functions perfectly.

The Brazilian rosewood fingerboard with clay dot inlays is beautifully figured and shows no wear. Frets are in almost new condition.

The Sunburst finish is in incredible condition. All the control knobs, hardware and switches are clean, shiny and like new.

It includes the original black tolex case with the dark orange interior in good condition
and the original tremolo arm, saddle cover and allen wrench.

The Jazzmaster has the distinction of being Fender's first guitar with a rosewood fingerboard. It was also the first to sport Leo's new floating vibrato and floating bridge.
Leo designed the unit for use with heavier-gauge strings that were more popular with Jazz Guitarists. In this design, the strings went over the bridge and attached to the vibrato tailpiece.
This was to limit sustain, furthering the guitar's pursuit of jazz tone. The bridge's two pointed anchor posts rest on metal cups sunk into the body. By pivoting on these pointed legs,
the bridge could move along with the strings when the vibrato was deployed. This setup effectively limited friction on the strings.

There was more "newness" to the Jazzmaster. Arguably the most useful and important was its pickup-switching system, which utilized separate circuits for regular and rhythm settings.
Developed by industrial engineer Forrest White (Fender GM '53 - '67) for a hobby guitar he built in 1942. The circuit was engaged via a slider switch above the neck pickup.
The second setting let the player roll off his treble and volume without touching either knob. The Jazzmaster was the first production Fender guitar with such capability

Leo also opted to equip the Jazzmaster with pickups that had wider, flatter coils. With an aesthetic borrowed from his early steel guitar designs, Their white covers and centered pole pieces made them unique.

The final new mechanical element was the Jazzmaster's "Trem-lock," which allowed the guitar to function in a vibrato-free mode and boasted the added function of keeping the guitar in tune.

The Jazzmaster decal was redesigned in the summer 1964. The Fender portion was enlarged matching the Jaguar's decal and straight gold flake was used.
Patent numbers increased to 6 (Pat 2,573,254 2,960,900 2,817,261 2,972,923 3,143,028 DES 186,826) The solid gold style has the entire line fit below "With Synchronized Floating Tremolo".

This guitar was made at the Fullerton Plant (Fender - Pre CBS Era), USA

Weight: 7.8 Lbs.
Serial Number: L48354

TIDBITS:
The Ventures 1960's song "Walk Don't Run," featured guitarist Bob Bogle on a Jazzmaster.
Carl Wilson of The Beach Boys was also renowned for the way he displayed Jazzmaster guitar tones.

I don't know if that is a good price

Bob
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original compositions (low-level demo stuff /out of tune, etc) myStuff not my best, but i don't like to be in a musician community without anything to show

I'm always a bit suspicious of ads that tell you all about the guitar model, but not much about the guitar for sale.

"This guitar will increase in value at a much higher rate being pre CBS" Really? Is this an absolute dead cert?

So we know all about the design of the Jazzmaster, and who played it and why Leo made it, but the condition and playability of it is dismissed in one paragraph.

And besides, I can't afford it.

http://thewaterboarders.bandcamp.com/

It's even a faux-burst - one of the ones where the grain was sufficiently ugly that they painted over it with solid yellow and faux grain lines, instead of dying it yellow to show the wood. That's why the burst looks so day-glo (plus, a classic example of a "target burst" I guess.

Those are the best pics I've seen on CL ad. Interesting guitar. Nerdy observations: that is about the earliest you would ever see those kind of knobs (if they are original to that guitar) and that close dot spacing at the 12th, and with clay inlays make this a transition type guitar. Fender went to pearl just months later.

FWIW, pictures of the '64-65 "target burst" often make it look a lot more cartoonish than it is in person.

Regarding the asking price, it's worth what someone is willing to pay. And, the CL ad seems to have been written by a politician...lots of talking points with little substance.

Even in the height of the vintage guitar boom in the early 2000's, a very nice sunburst mid-'60's Jazzmaster or Jaguar could be had for $2500 or less. Current dealer/guitar show prices are higher nowadays but they don't seem to be flying off the shelves.

The '60's Fenders that bring the big money are the custom color ones with the original finish intact - Fiesta Red, Olympic White, Lake Placid Blue, Surf Green and so on. Unfortunately the collectors have snapped up a lot of these "for investment" which is why non-wealthy players like me who want a real vintage, non-refinished Fender have to settle for a more common sunburst one.

Jack Booth
(aka WoodyJ)

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websurfer wrote:

the earliest you would ever see those kind of knobs (if they are original to that guitar) and that close dot spacing at the 12th, and with clay inlays make this a transition type guitar. Fender went to pearl just months later.

You see, that's the sort of information I want on a guitar ad!!

http://thewaterboarders.bandcamp.com/

If this was a '63 I could see that price. Still high but '63 and before is a more sought after era. The instruments are still amazing, but something about the necks '63 and before... Come '64 they just aren't as amazing, still amazing.

Doing a gbase search shows that the seller is asking far more than most dealers for a sunburst guitar of this vintage. That is custom color territory.

well yes the 64 necks are very different than than the 63 pre 63's were slab boards neck way better then the later ones I have a 64 #L9 that's in much better shape than this one their are still a great guitar,but I much prefer my new AVRI's JM and JAG $5000 is about the going rate these days but it is a buyer market so it might sell for a lot less than that price

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I think this is a fake ad. I've done some comparisons of the logo shots. The logos are different in the front/back headstock shot and the logo in the variety shot(bottom photos). An ad with similar pictures was floating around eBay and I had reported it as being fake. I think this is the same thing here.

The serial number also doesn't match up with the witch-hat knobs. Furthermore, two of the pictures (bottom two) have a '65 Jazzmaster with binding on the neck. Look at the placement of the guitar in the case as well. It has much more room in the shot with the binding on the neck than in the first shot with the neck-straplock. It looks like the '65 binding guitar is in a bass case in those pictures too.

I call this ad a FAKE!!!!!!!!

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Last edited: Nov 15, 2012 20:33:50

Wow, I had no idea, just show what i don't know
Bob

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