killbabykill34
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Posted on Aug 30 2011 04:00 PM
Be sure to run directly into your power in or effects return with your pedals if you are going to use the FDR-1. Otherwise you will get a colored version of its true tone.
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Noel
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Posted on Aug 30 2011 04:53 PM
Thanks. I use a power supply to power any pedals I use, and never rely on their batteries, if that's what you meant. I also chain together the ones I use. For example, BOSS TU-2 tuner into Rogue analog delay into Rogue analog tremelo into FRV-1 into amp. Should I be doing anything differently? As per BOSS, I'll insert the FDR-1 in front of the FRV-1, although I'd expect it to go after, since they use it as an amp head. I may try it both ways just to hear the difference. I'm still surprised BOSS won't sample the FRV-1 without one of the other pedals in front of it.
BTW, how do you like the FDR-1?
killbabykill34 wrote:
Be sure to run directly into your power in or effects
return with your pedals if you are going to use the
FDR-1. Otherwise you will get a colored version of its
true tone.
— This is Noel. Reverb's at maximum an' I'm givin' 'er all she's got.
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killbabykill34
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Posted on Aug 31 2011 08:14 AM
Noel, I think you misunderstood. The FDR-1 pedal is designed as a preamp, rather than a stompbox going into the front of your amp. What I was suggesting to do is, rather than plugging your pedal chain directly into the input on your amp, bypass your amps preamp. The way to do this is by plugging your pedals into the 'effects return' or 'power in', depending on what your amp has. This is common practice with any kind of amp modeling pedal. This is the only way to accurately get the true tone the pedal is providing.
Also, despite what Boss suggests, I do not recommend putting the FRV-1 pedal after your FDR-1. What you are trying to emulate is a classic surf setup, which is Guitar into outboard tank into amp. You will not get the same effect by following their directions.
Send me a pm if you need any more info.
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Noel
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Posted on Aug 31 2011 09:04 AM
THANK YOU, THANK YOU, THANK YOU! My Fender Stage 112SE has a Power Amp In jack. So, I'll run my guitar through the pedal chain and into that jack instead of either of the guitar channels, right? The guitar signal still has to go through all the pedals, yes? I did wonder, since BOSS describe the FDR-1 as a preamp, why they'd put it in front of the FRV-1 instead of after. I was going to try that anyway, but I wouldn't have thought to use the preamp jack.
Again, thanks. This is a big help. All the guitarists where I live that I know well enough to ask play blues, jazz, country, oldies, metal or punk, so this sort of thing is foreign to them.
killbabykill34 wrote:
Noel, I think you misunderstood. The FDR-1 pedal is
designed as a preamp, rather than a stompbox going into
the front of your amp. What I was suggesting to do is,
rather than plugging your pedal chain directly into the
input on your amp, bypass your amps preamp. The way to
do this is by plugging your pedals into the 'effects
return' or 'power in', depending on what your amp has.
This is common practice with any kind of amp modeling
pedal. This is the only way to accurately get the true
tone the pedal is providing.
Also, despite what Boss suggests, I do not recommend
putting the FRV-1 pedal after your FDR-1. What you are
trying to emulate is a classic surf setup, which is
Guitar into outboard tank into amp. You will not get
the same effect by following their directions.
Send me a pm if you need any more info.
— This is Noel. Reverb's at maximum an' I'm givin' 'er all she's got.
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killbabykill34
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Posted on Aug 31 2011 09:06 AM
Yes, your signal chain should be Guitar->FRV-1->FDR-1->Power Amp In...This will allow you to get the most out of your pedals.
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killbabykill34
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Posted on Aug 31 2011 09:07 AM
Just remember that the primary controls on your amp will not be functional with this setup. The FDR-1 will be where all of your amp controls are located.
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Rustan
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Posted on Nov 23 2011 03:31 AM
Instead od starting new thread regarding Boss FRV-1 I use this and hope there can be some tips from other users: what setting(s) on the Boss FRV-1 is the optimal to optain the most drippy sound?
More Mix over Dwell or the other way around? Max on all? Other settings?
Go ahead, share your experiences!
/ Rustan (just got my pedal and still try to figure iy out)
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killbabykill34
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Posted on Nov 23 2011 08:08 AM
6-6-6...But it also depends on your guitar. My Hallmark doesn't get much drip from this pedal but I plugged in a Strat and it was a drip machine.
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Noel
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Posted on Nov 23 2011 08:51 AM
I owe many thanks to Noah (Killbabykill34) for getting good-sounding drip from my FRV-1. If you go into the FDR-1 after the FRV-1, it will add a rich layer of undertones missing from the FRV-1 by itself. Plus, it can add tremolo and its own reverb tail if your amp or effects chain lack them.
On my Strat, if I set the FRV-1 to 10-5/6-10 for 1'st Wave tunes, it crashes and splashes while palm-muting very heavy and wet. I've found it faster to back down to the reverb I want, but that's just me and my Strat.
I have a guitar with Jazz humbuckers, and it hates these pedals. P90s sound almost as good as Strat pickups. Hope all this helps.
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Rustan
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Posted on Nov 23 2011 10:52 AM
Thanks guys! When you refer to settings 6, 10 and so on is that like on the real tank unit where 10 is max and 5/6 is halfway? I´m asking because some refer to settings clockwise.
But I suppose in this case Noel runs Mixer/Dwell to maximum?
I´m not using any other pedal (FDR-1 ore similar) but straight in to the amp. It´s a Laney Cub 12R, all tube.
The guitar is a Squier Strat, white of course
Any other with experiences of the optimal settings?
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Ariel
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Israel
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Posted on Nov 23 2011 11:23 AM
With my Jazzmaster I use mostly 6 - 4/5 - 6 (on a scale of 10).
I find the FRV-1 a bit harsh when using a lot of treble, digitally harsh - not good. But to get the splash and drip, you need the highs, so it's a compromise. Though, adding an EQ (or EQable) pedal right afterwards greatly improves your chances.
Judging by the varied answers so far in this thread, seems Boss did a good job dialing this pedal for different setups. Only thing I would change is narrow the tone range, say make the current 3-7 the full 1-10 range. And have the mix dial in an undigitized tone, and true bypass, but that's not Boss's style...
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DeadRanchHands
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Posted on Nov 27 2011 08:16 PM
Well, I just got one. Haven't spent much time with it, but it does seem to get a good "big picture" surf sound, but as has been said before, is more clacky than drippy. The devil is in the details, etc etc. I'll do a demo comparing it to Amplitube Fender, which is much better. Still, not bad for a 9V pedal. I wouldn't record with it, but I would play out with it.
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jonny_flatbottle
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Massachusetts
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Posted on Nov 27 2011 08:54 PM
I'm looking to get rid of my frv-1 if anyone wants one.
got a 63 reissue tank and don't need the pedal anymore.
pm me and make an offer if anyone wants it.
(I know I probably should have put this in the for sale section)
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ludobag
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at south of
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Posted on Nov 28 2011 03:19 PM
i think it depend of the volume you use it
my main rig actually is deluxe reverb plug in the vibrato channel on the 2 entry with tone setting bass 7 treble 5
volume at 2
the frv1 setting is 666
depend of the guitar plug in also ?
but with the volume i use it on appartement i haven' t harsh sound
maybe if i play it louder i will have to reduce the amount of the tone of the pedal ?
with that i have a really nice sound better than the onboard reverb who is too short for surf to my taste
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DeadRanchHands
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Posted on Nov 28 2011 04:17 PM
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stratomatic
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Posted on Oct 22 2012 11:41 PM
What makes a digital pedal better than your amps onboard spring reverb? For a while I owned an old solid state gibson falcon 3. The reverb assembly was so large that the springs were audible with the slightest shock to the amplifier. I never had a problem achieving enough reverb. I don't have any experience with the FRV-1. So is there any advantage using this pedal over say a larger reverb assembly like the one used in older amplifers? Thanks
Nick
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stratomatic
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Posted on Oct 22 2012 11:45 PM
Also does anyone know of a large reverb assembly I could retrofit in an amplifier? (IE will it shake and rattle when I'm hauling it around) Thanks again everyone
Nick
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DeadRanchHands
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Posted on Oct 23 2012 07:12 AM
stratomatic wrote:
What makes a digital pedal better than your amps onboard spring reverb? For a while I owned an old solid state gibson falcon 3. The reverb assembly was so large that the springs were audible with the slightest shock to the amplifier. I never had a problem achieving enough reverb. I don't have any experience with the FRV-1. So is there any advantage using this pedal over say a larger reverb assembly like the one used in older amplifers? Thanks
Nick
Depends on the amp. Some onboard reverb sounds pretty drippy, some doesn't. I guess the advantage of the FRV-1 is a more pronounced drip, although I think it's too clacky and unrealistic. I've bought and sold one twice now.
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killbabykill34
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Posted on Oct 23 2012 08:03 AM
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JONPAUL
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Posted on Oct 23 2012 12:07 PM
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