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This little cable mod is supposed to turn your first channel into a dwell and tone control, to simulate a outboard reverb unit. It's an easy cable to put together, 1/4" male on one end RCA female on the other........

Any one heard of this or tried it?

yeah...even 10 bucks (plus s/h) sounds over-priced for that cable.
Most guys have cables like that falling out of drawers and bags.......

Well, aye do, anyway... I'll give it a shot and report.

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oh, btw...I found this somewhere.... it accomplishes the same thing, I believe...

_This is an easy mod which requires no soldering. Most people rarely ever use the normal channel on dual channel Fender amps with reverb. So what you can do is turn the normal channel into a reverb unit.
1. Get an RCA to 1/4" cable from your local electronics store or Radio Shack.

1. Plug the RCA end of the cable into the output jack of the reverb pan.
   

2. Plug the 1/4" end into the input of the Normal channel.
   

Now your reverb knob is a "dwell" control. And the Volume knob on the Normal channel controlls the overall reverb volume. The new EQ adjustments you now have, give you control over your reverb much like that of the Fender Reverb Unit. _

i've tried it, although i do not have a fender amp, but its very similar.

it did give me a bit more drip, i didnt know that the reverb turned into a dwell, though, so i might give that another try and toy around with it.

yeah, its a lot cheaper to get your own wires and solder them yourself.

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I'have never tried it but the Normal and Vibrato channels on Fender amps are out of phase with each other and I would't think it would allow you to get a tank's performance out of it. I could be wrong. Dan Torres has a "Righteous Reverb Mod" that he claims really opens up the sound of the reverb. I have never ordered the kit, but I do have his "Full House" kit in my #1 Dual Showman Reverb head and it will blow the crap out of the other six that I have. His mod makes the tone controls really work and the overall gain in the amp is up maybe 25% over a stock one. I always use that head when playing outside.

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The two channels are out of phase once the reverb is "recovered" by the reverb channel. However, in this case, I think you're going straight from the tank into the Normal channel and bypassing the "output" jack/recovery section of the Reverb channel. So, the Normal channel is acting as the "recovery" circuit instead and won't be out of phase with anything. At least, I think that's how it's supposed to work.

I've heard one person use this (on a BF pro Reverb). It sounded pretty good.

Reverse the + and - on the jack that you wire up to the rca cable if they're out of phase. Not saying that they are because I haven't tried it but that would be the way to reverse it.

BTW I split my signal and run my outboard tank into the normal channel of one of my amps through a volume pedal so I can get no reverb or maximum and all the flavors in between.

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As a variation on this theme, I was thinking of trying out using two amps - with one just for reverb.... i.e: FX send to tank, then tank out to a second amp. I tried it at home and it sounded pretty good. Not sure if I'll try it at a gig - maybe it's a bit over the top...... hmmm, but then .... and this would work on the system you were discussing as well ..... then you could put a delay unit in the line from the tank to amp (or channel) two..... think of the drip with the reverb signal delayed 200ms or so ....hmmmm

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As a variation on this theme, I was thinking of trying out using two amps - with one just for reverb.... i.e: FX send to tank, then tank out to a second amp. I tried it at home and it sounded pretty good. Not sure if I'll try it at a gig - maybe it's a bit over the top...... hmmm, but then .... and this would work on the system you were discussing as well ..... then you could put a delay unit in the line from the tank to amp (or channel) two..... think of the drip with the reverb signal delayed 200ms or so ....hmmmm

with my set up i just daisy chain the tank between normal and vibrato channels with a patch cable. It allows you to have the Normal channel clean and the vibrato channel as wet as it can get, by adjusting the volume and tone controls you can get a wide wide range of drip. also with the all clean channel it really adds some puch to the tone, i find allowing me to push the volume more

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The mod referenced in the OP only affects the return side of the reverb circuit - to increase the drip to the level of an outboard tank you have to drive the pan harder with the send amp. That's what the DWELL control (and the 4-watt driver tube/OT) in the tank circuit does; with this mod the amp's Normal Channel's VOLUME control is in fact acting like the tank's MIX control, not a DWELL. I've done this mod internally to some Fenders - it does enhance the EQ=ing capability of the reverb and can provide more gain to the return, but that's it. In short, DON'T SELL YOUR OUTBOARD TANK, this won't duplicate it.

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BJB, the only way I've seen to approximate the outboard tank's drive with a two-channel Fender reverb combo is to rewire the 12AT7 driver socket for an EL84 and replace the original reverb driver tranny with a reissue tank-type driver tranny (EL84 = same output impedance as the 6K6/6V6). Rewiring the Normal channel as a classic 3-knob circuit (at the instrument input) will then get you pretty darn close, but that's a lotta work.

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