horax
Joined: Mar 23, 2011
Posts: 518
colorado springs
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Posted on Sep 14 2012 12:27 AM
Ok, I have read the other amp threads but didn't find anything.
I have specific.needs here:
Reverb
Headphone out
Drive
Good for.blues and surf
Cheap
This will be a practice amo and needs to be good enough
To play with a bass guitar, lead guitar, and drum machine.
Saving up for a good tube amp so don't want to break the bank.
Am selling a line 6 75 watt spider iv to help finance it, but
Haven't had any leads yet.
rued a frontman 25r, but some shredder next to me was blowing
Me out of the store so I couldn't hear how good the reverb was.
Any ideas on what I should get?
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Jetpack
Joined: May 28, 2008
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Los Angeles
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Posted on Sep 14 2012 12:47 AM
My first thought would be to get a good old red knob Fender used on C-list or eBay. It'll be cheap so you can keep saving for that tube amp and it will be made in the USA. I still have a Fender Eighty-Five that is hella loud, clean, has phones out, preamp out/ power amp in, drive channel (who's sound is loved by some/hated by more) but use your favorite pedal and you will have a solidly built, very cheap American amp.
I have used it for guitar, bass, and drum machine, as well as an extra PA speaker.
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horax
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colorado springs
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Posted on Sep 14 2012 12:50 AM
I was looking at some fender ultimate chorus, Princeton chorus, rinceton 112 plus, etc.
All solid state
I just hate buying an amp without playing it, and locally I can't find crap.
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horax
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colorado springs
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Posted on Sep 14 2012 12:50 AM
Oh, and I think the mustangs are horrible. I played some tonight and the gc employees couldn't dial in any kind of reverb that sounded authentic.
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normj
Joined: Apr 26, 2010
Posts: 882
central Indiana
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Posted on Sep 14 2012 03:00 AM
horax,
I saw this one on Yardsalr quite a while ago. Back in June or July. If the seller still has it, he may be flexible on the price. An old Fender Twin Reverb should fill your needs.
http://yardsellr.com/for_sale/#!/classic-fender-the-twin-reverb-amp-4759579
Later,
Norm
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horax
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Posts: 518
colorado springs
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Posted on Sep 14 2012 08:30 AM
The link doesn't work for me.
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jonfender
Joined: Mar 09, 2011
Posts: 273
Melbourne FL USA
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Posted on Sep 14 2012 10:08 AM
Please go back to the store & "surf the shredder outta' there"....then listen close to the reverb on the Frontman 25 R. (Pretty darn good)!! Also, I'd reccomend a "Princeton Chorus"...they're GREAT ! (& affordable). I don't have anything to add except: Make SURE it's just a "Princeton Chorus" (not the "Ultimate Chorus" or the "Princeton 112" or any other "amalgamation of a Princeton chorus")....it's even mentioned in Tom Wheeler's "Soul of Tone" book how superior the "Princeton Chorus" was. After making it 10 years (or so) they "had to change something" & those other models are somewhat questionable from all reports. I have 2 Princeton Chorus black knobs from 90's (cos' they're very affordable) & they surf pretty good & sound amazing !
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horax
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Posts: 518
colorado springs
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Posted on Sep 14 2012 10:53 AM
so I've been seeing these online...what's wrong with teh ultimate chorus in comparison with the princeton chorus?
The P Chorus is all Solid State as well, right?
I was looking at:
deluxe 112 plus
princeton 112 plus
ultimate chorus
princeton chorus
princeton red knob (made in usa)
ultra chorus (made in usa)
stage 112 se
I just asked my new band mate what he plays, and he plays a 65 twin reverb...so I don't want to get blown away TOO badly. Wish I had the kind of $$$ to throw around like he has. 
Would the 25R stand up to that?
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jonfender
Joined: Mar 09, 2011
Posts: 273
Melbourne FL USA
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Posted on Sep 14 2012 11:16 AM
A 25R will not stand up to a tube Twin Reverb......(well maybe CRANKED !!....In the 60's the Twin Reverb was the loudest amp on the planet for it's size). I think a Princeton Chorus would do pretty well next to a Twin, those (Princeton Chorus) are LOUD amps if need be...(25 watts per chan-total 51). The P Chorus is all Solid State. There is not anything wrong w/any of em' (we hope), it's just that some models play (WAY) better than others. I had a "Deluxe 85" red-knob that I thought was ok until I heard the Princeton Chorus (just way better in advanced features & quality). I asked my amp tech Lars (he's GOOD believe me) & he points to the "Princeton Chorus" & that's it. I played an ultra chorus & tho' higher powered than the Princeton Chorus, the sound was not as good...not as defined as w/the Princeton Chorus. (& for what it's worth, you'll get a great chorus unit in the amp). The reverb in the Princeton Chorus is surfable..& the Overdrive Channel is really good ! You can most likely grab a Princeton Chorus for $$$ anywhere between $150-$450.
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horax
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colorado springs
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Posted on Sep 14 2012 11:42 AM
Best I can do is $140 after shipping on one with torn tolex and cloth cuts.
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Bob_Kennedy
Joined: Feb 27, 2012
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Mesa, AZ.
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Posted on Sep 14 2012 01:57 PM
How about a Mustang I, II or III?
Reverb? - Yep
Headphone out? - Yep
Drive? - Yep
Good for Blues & Surf? - Yep
Cheap? - Yep
Looks like the Mustang series meets your requirements.
— Otto & The Ottomans
Kennedy Custom Guitars
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so1om
Joined: May 10, 2012
Posts: 492
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Posted on Sep 14 2012 07:46 PM
Vox Pathfinder 15r. Reverb, trem, boost, headphone, line out, ext speaker, etc..
otherwise since i love my 212r, try the 25r.
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normj
Joined: Apr 26, 2010
Posts: 882
central Indiana
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Posted on Sep 14 2012 10:43 PM
Here is another attempt at posting the link.
Twin Reverb at Yardsalr
Hopefully, that link will work for you.
Later,
Norm
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tubesNtweed
Joined: Sep 07, 2011
Posts: 507
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Posted on Sep 14 2012 11:33 PM
I'd go w/ the Fender Frontman style amps. Wasn't impressed w/ the Mustang, sounded mushy and hard to operate (and I'm not an old guy). Go for a basic clean, w/ a drive knob, they're closer to a vintage Fender amp than a modeling amp IMO. I tried the frontman 65 a long time ago and for what it is it's a pretty cool amp. For $140 you could pick up a Fender s.s. amp used and be satisfied until you save up for a tube amp.
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horax
Joined: Mar 23, 2011
Posts: 518
colorado springs
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Posted on Sep 14 2012 11:37 PM
I actually fixed my line 6.
Turns.out.it was a noise gate setting that I had to play with.
Tonight.I.played with some.guys and the lead had a 65 fender twin deluxe reverb.
I played the line 6 model that is based in it and it sounded exactly.like it! Amazing how close some of these can.get.
Only prob was the amp.started crackling when.my hands would touch the.body.
Static cling maybe?
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