help lead guitar intro of "Malibu Run" by Fender IV

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help lead guitar intro of "Malibu Run" by Fender IV

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hlieboff59 Joined: Jun 27, 2008 Posts: 576 Marlboro, New Jersey	Posted on Aug 28 2012 08:35 AM Have all the chords figured out for Malibu Run. Now starting w/lead guitar. But with intro, rhythm guitar starts with Bminor for 8 beats and the next 8 beats, lead guitar comes in with this off-beat chord. Does anybody know what this. Driving me crazy. Any help is greatly appreciated. Thanks. Top
psychonaut Joined: Dec 08, 2007 Posts: 1305	Posted on Aug 28 2012 08:59 AM Isn't the song in C minor? sounds like he's playing a C minor triad at the 8 th fret across the first three strings, but that he's slightly out of tune, or his intonation is off. — https://www.facebook.com/coffindagger http://coffindaggers.com/ http://thecoffindaggers.bandcamp.com Last edited: Aug 28, 2012 09:05:27 Top
SanchoPansen Joined: Jan 04, 2011 Posts: 1588 Berlin L-Berg	Posted on Aug 28 2012 09:00 AM This will be very interesting. I've been struggling with this chord as well and finally gave up. Think it's 2 tones on B and E with a slight bend or something. — The Hicadoolas Top
hlieboff59 Joined: Jun 27, 2008 Posts: 576 Marlboro, New Jersey	Posted on Aug 28 2012 09:26 AM if you watch Banned From The Beach's Killer version of "Malibu Run," you can see the fabulous Billy playing rhythm and clearly it's B minor! But hard to see what Rob on lead is doing for the beginning! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C9egGYTU8ss&safety_mode=true&persist_safety_mode=1&safe=active Top
psychonaut Joined: Dec 08, 2007 Posts: 1305	Posted on Aug 28 2012 09:31 AM hlieboff59 wrote: if you watch Banned From The Beach's Killer version of "Malibu Run," you can see the fabulous Billy playing rhythm and clearly it's B minor! But hard to see what Rob on lead is doing for the beginning! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C9egGYTU8ss&safety_mode=true&persist_safety_mode=1&safe=active Well, your title for this post clearly says Fender iv, not Banned from the Beach. Unless I'm completely insane, or my tuner is really out of whack, this is in C minor: http://youtu.be/O4kvWjrw7QU — https://www.facebook.com/coffindagger http://coffindaggers.com/ http://thecoffindaggers.bandcamp.com Last edited: Aug 28, 2012 09:39:27 Top
Brian Joined: Feb 25, 2006 Posts: 19342 Des Moines, Iowa, USA	Posted on Aug 28 2012 10:04 AM Part of the fun of figuring out 60's surf recordings is dealing with the tape being sped up / slowed down, tuning / intonation issues, and other anomalies. Randy Holden also stated in an interview with us that he tuned down to D, although it isn't clear if he meant Drop D, or how often he did so. — Site dude - S3 Agent #202 Need help with the site? SG101 FAQ - Send me a private message - Email me "It starts... when it begins" -- Ralf Kilauea Top
SanchoPansen Joined: Jan 04, 2011 Posts: 1588 Berlin L-Berg	Posted on Aug 28 2012 10:34 AM Tried it again and came to the result (and yes, it's C not B): `--15--15----15----15\-- --16--16----16----16\-- --17--17----17----17\-- ----------------------- ----------------------- -----------------------` Plus the guitar is slightly out of tune. Not sure about the slide, though. I'm pretty sure it's played like this. @Brian: I'm sure you know this, but it's impossible to tab something out correctly, as 3x - is 3x Is there a trick? — The Hicadoolas Last edited: Aug 28, 2012 12:01:13 Top
psychonaut Joined: Dec 08, 2007 Posts: 1305	Posted on Aug 28 2012 10:51 AM SanchoPansen wrote: Tried it again and came to the result (and yes, it's C not B): -15- -15- - -15- - -15slide- -16- -16- - -16- - -16slide- -17- -17- - -17- - -17slide- Plus the guitar is slightly out of tune. Not sure about the slide, though. I'm pretty sure it's played like this. @Brian: I'm sure you know this, but it's impossible to tab something out correctly, as 3x - is 3x Is there a trick? I think you may be right about 15 16 17. He's definitely out of tune. Anyone else ever notice the slight Ska influence in the Fender IV? — https://www.facebook.com/coffindagger http://coffindaggers.com/ http://thecoffindaggers.bandcamp.com Last edited: Aug 28, 2012 10:53:57 Top
hlieboff59 Joined: Jun 27, 2008 Posts: 576 Marlboro, New Jersey	Posted on Aug 28 2012 11:05 AM psychonaut wrote: Well, your title for this post clearly says Fender iv, not Banned from the Beach. Unless I'm completely insane, or my tuner is really out of whack, this is in C minor. psychonaut...you're absolutely correct with Fender IV's version in C minor. My bad for not mentioning it. I see alot of bands (on youtube) play it in B minor I think. Top
Brian Joined: Feb 25, 2006 Posts: 19342 Des Moines, Iowa, USA	Posted on Aug 28 2012 11:06 AM SanchoPansen wrote: @Brian: I'm sure you know this, but it's impossible to tab something out correctly, as 3x - is 3x Is there a trick? Yes: type or paste in your tab. Then select all lines with your mouse, then click the "Code block" icon (to the left of the smiley on the bar above the input box). That will shift all the lines 8 spaces or so to the right, which generates a "code block" (a block of text using a non-proportional font). For example: `-15---15-----15----15slide- -16---16-----16----16slide- -17---17-----17----17slide-` — Site dude - S3 Agent #202 Need help with the site? SG101 FAQ - Send me a private message - Email me "It starts... when it begins" -- Ralf Kilauea Last edited: Aug 28, 2012 11:08:02 Top
psychonaut Joined: Dec 08, 2007 Posts: 1305	Posted on Aug 28 2012 11:15 AM If Randy Holden was indeed tuned to D, that means he's playing it as if it were in D minor. Yeah, then there's the 'is the recording sped up or slowed down' thing. Let's remember too that cheap electronic tuners weren't around back then. People mostly tuned by ear giving everyone a unique and personal temperance to their instruments. This accounts for a lot of the "sound" on sixties and earlier records. This is something which is all but lost in the modern age. Although I use a tuner live in order to minimize any potential problems, I always tune by ear when I record. — https://www.facebook.com/coffindagger http://coffindaggers.com/ http://thecoffindaggers.bandcamp.com Top
SanchoPansen Joined: Jan 04, 2011 Posts: 1588 Berlin L-Berg	Posted on Aug 28 2012 12:02 PM Brian wrote: SanchoPansen wrote: @Brian: I'm sure you know this, but it's impossible to tab something out correctly, as 3x - is 3x Is there a trick? Yes: type or paste in your tab. Then select all lines with your mouse, then click the "Code block" icon (to the left of the smiley on the bar above the input box). That will shift all the lines 8 spaces or so to the right, which generates a "code block" (a block of text using a non-proportional font). Okay, that was easy and kind of embarrassing for me. Thanks for your help! — The Hicadoolas Top
SanchoPansen Joined: Jan 04, 2011 Posts: 1588 Berlin L-Berg	Posted on Aug 28 2012 12:05 PM psychonaut wrote: If Randy Holden was indeed tuned to D, that means he's playing it as if it were in D minor. Yeah, then there's the 'is the recording sped up or slowed down' thing. Let's remember too that cheap electronic tuners weren't around back then. People mostly tuned by ear giving everyone a unique and personal temperance to their instruments. This accounts for a lot of the "sound" on sixties and earlier records. This is something which is all but lost in the modern age. Although I use a tuner live in order to minimize any potential problems, I always tune by ear when I record. Dropped to D he had to play it like this: `--17--17----17----17\-- --18--18----18----18\-- --19--19----19----19\-- ----------------------- ----------------------- -----------------------` And now it makes perfect sense. I suppose his guitar didn't have a perfect intonation and you are very likely to bend the strings slightly up there when you pull that chord. Add the 'loose' strings due to dropped tuning and tah-dah...that's what we hear. — The Hicadoolas Last edited: Aug 28, 2012 12:08:03 Top
BillyBlastOff Joined: Feb 27, 2006 Posts: 1070 Ventura County, Calif.	Posted on Aug 28 2012 12:22 PM Yeah. Malibu Run is another one of those surf tunes that sort of have their own key. Like Cminor and 1/2. Lol. We threw it in Bm to make life easier. — Be careful following the masses. Sometimes the "M" is silent........................... Top
Brian Joined: Feb 25, 2006 Posts: 19342 Des Moines, Iowa, USA	Posted on Aug 28 2012 12:43 PM psychonaut wrote: Anyone else ever notice the slight Ska influence in the Fender IV? We asked him about that too... he gave us very brief answers with not a lot of detail in them unfortunately. Here is the interview: http://surfguitar101.com/news/story/61/ And here are some more great stories from the Cowabunga list days: http://surfguitar101.com/news/story/193/ — Site dude - S3 Agent #202 Need help with the site? SG101 FAQ - Send me a private message - Email me "It starts... when it begins" -- Ralf Kilauea Top
Number9 Joined: Jul 18, 2009 Posts: 499	Posted on Aug 28 2012 01:07 PM . Last edited: Mar 01, 2020 08:22:11 Top
NIB Joined: Aug 02, 2010 Posts: 111 Vienna/Austria	Posted on Aug 28 2012 04:12 PM could anyone be so kind to share a tab with the main riff, for noobs like me? xD Top
irv78 Joined: Jun 26, 2009 Posts: 99 Austria	Posted on Sep 02 2012 02:54 PM NIB wrote: could anyone be so kind to share a tab with the main riff, for noobs like me? xD Ok, I finally managed to cobble a tab for Malibu Run together (Lead and Rhythm guitar). My Tab is in B minor and standard tuning ... uploading it to the tab-section right now. — Top
NIB Joined: Aug 02, 2010 Posts: 111 Vienna/Austria	Posted on Sep 03 2012 02:40 AM Thx a lot! cant wait to grab up my guitar and give it a try Top

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