Removing the trem arm from my AVRI Jag

Surfocaster

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Posted on Jun 15 2012 03:15 PM

Hi All
Slightly embaressed to ask this but how do I remove the trem arm from the Jag? Its been in since ive had it (about a year and a half as it sits in the case with the arm in) but im having it set up shortly and will ask the guys to put a slight kink in the arm so that it doesnt flop around. Is it a push in type? I guess it is as nothing happens when I spin the arm around. Im just reluctant to pull too hard on it in case I damage anything.
Cheers
Nigel

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Noel

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Posted on Jun 15 2012 05:21 PM

Nigel, you're not the first person I know of who cases his offset with the tremolo arm inserted, but I've always been told it's a bad idea. I have a Fender-brand hard case and there's no room to close it on the arm.

I'd set the trem lock botton (assuming it locks the trem plate) and give the tremolo arm a firm yank straight up.

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JakeDobner

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Posted on Jun 15 2012 05:26 PM

Yeah, its a push in type. Google images search "jaguar tremolo assembly" and you can look at it and see how it is pieced together.

I've owned a lot of Jags/Jazzmasters and have never took the arms out when I put them in cases.

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tubeswell

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Posted on Jun 15 2012 11:57 PM

The trem arm just pulls out.

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Surfocaster

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Posted on Jun 16 2012 01:59 AM

Thanks guys. Honestly, im pulling really hard and its just not shifting, thats with the slider in both locked and unlocked position. Any ideas? Ive got buzzing on the top two strings which is why im taking it in but im worried the guys wont know much about jags and I cant even get the arm out myself.
Cheers.
BTW Noel, the case it came with is a G and G which has a soft lid but it does push the arm down a fair bit on closing.

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tubeswell

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Posted on Jun 16 2012 05:36 AM

Hmmm, I wonder if its not a vintage-type trem, but some other thing thats threaded in? (If its a pull-out type arm, then if you turn it around ad-infinitum ad-nauseum, it will stay in place)

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Surfocaster

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Posted on Jun 19 2012 12:36 PM

Hi tubeswell

The guys pulled the arm out but it was quite a struggle. It is the push in type and not threaded. Maybe a year of putting the guitar in the case with the arm in affected the end of the arm or something and it didnt want to come out. I remove the arm every time now.
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Ariel

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Posted on Jun 19 2012 01:03 PM

Surfocaster, just for your consideration, maybe it's not such a good idea. Installing/removing the arm repeatedly may weaken the collet, you already saw how much pressure it takes, as it sits very tight, but the collet teeth are fragile. This CLACK! is a bit scary, as you witnessed. On the other side, I see no harm in leaving it in all the time.
Simple mechanical logic - more movement/change of pressure - more weakening of the material.

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Surfocaster

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Posted on Jun 19 2012 03:21 PM

I certainly will consider that. its a toss up between caseing it or leaving it at the mercy of two small children and two cats!!
Cheers
Nigel

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Surfocaster

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Posted on Jun 20 2012 04:48 PM

Has anybody seen these?

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Tremolo-upgrade-for-Fender-Jaguar-Jazzmaster-Eliminates-sloppy-tremolo-arm-/180895589620?pt=UK_Guitar_Accessories&var=&hash=item2a1e37a4f4

Cheers
Nigel

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LeeVanCleef

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Posted on Jun 20 2012 05:07 PM

Yup, look here.

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Noel

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Posted on Jun 20 2012 05:38 PM

Surfocaster wrote:

Has anybody seen these?

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Tremolo-upgrade-for-Fender-Jaguar-Jazzmaster-Eliminates-sloppy-tremolo-arm-/180895589620?pt=UK_Guitar_Accessories&var=&hash=item2a1e37a4f4

Cheers
Nigel

Also yup. I've been thinking a lot about it. But I still have no idea how anyone can close a hard case on a Jag's/JM's installed tremolo arm. Have you cut out the padding to make a slot for it or do you use a custom case that has a cutout already?

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Sobriquet

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Posted on Jun 20 2012 05:43 PM

The StayTrem is awesome. Came stock on my Johnny Marr Jaguar.

FWIW, I pull the arm every time I case it up.

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Posted on Jun 20 2012 06:21 PM

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Surfocaster Joined: Jan 16, 2010 Posts: 214 Somerset, England	Posted on Jun 15 2012 03:15 PM Hi All Slightly embaressed to ask this but how do I remove the trem arm from the Jag? Its been in since ive had it (about a year and a half as it sits in the case with the arm in) but im having it set up shortly and will ask the guys to put a slight kink in the arm so that it doesnt flop around. Is it a push in type? I guess it is as nothing happens when I spin the arm around. Im just reluctant to pull too hard on it in case I damage anything. Cheers Nigel Top
Noel Joined: Mar 15, 2011 Posts: 8528 Back in Piitsburgh, Pennsylvania, where I grew up.	Posted on Jun 15 2012 05:21 PM Nigel, you're not the first person I know of who cases his offset with the tremolo arm inserted, but I've always been told it's a bad idea. I have a Fender-brand hard case and there's no room to close it on the arm. I'd set the trem lock botton (assuming it locks the trem plate) and give the tremolo arm a firm yank straight up. — This is Noel. Reverb's at maximum an' I'm givin' 'er all she's got. Top
JakeDobner Joined: Feb 26, 2006 Posts: 12159 Seattle	Posted on Jun 15 2012 05:26 PM Yeah, its a push in type. Google images search "jaguar tremolo assembly" and you can look at it and see how it is pieced together. I've owned a lot of Jags/Jazzmasters and have never took the arms out when I put them in cases. Top
tubeswell Joined: Sep 24, 2011 Posts: 1424 Wellington, NZ	Posted on Jun 15 2012 11:57 PM The trem arm just pulls out. — He who dies with the most tubes... wins Surf Daddies Top
Surfocaster Joined: Jan 16, 2010 Posts: 214 Somerset, England	Posted on Jun 16 2012 01:59 AM Thanks guys. Honestly, im pulling really hard and its just not shifting, thats with the slider in both locked and unlocked position. Any ideas? Ive got buzzing on the top two strings which is why im taking it in but im worried the guys wont know much about jags and I cant even get the arm out myself. Cheers. BTW Noel, the case it came with is a G and G which has a soft lid but it does push the arm down a fair bit on closing. Top
tubeswell Joined: Sep 24, 2011 Posts: 1424 Wellington, NZ	Posted on Jun 16 2012 05:36 AM Hmmm, I wonder if its not a vintage-type trem, but some other thing thats threaded in? (If its a pull-out type arm, then if you turn it around ad-infinitum ad-nauseum, it will stay in place) — He who dies with the most tubes... wins Surf Daddies Last edited: Jun 16, 2012 05:38:50 Top
Surfocaster Joined: Jan 16, 2010 Posts: 214 Somerset, England	Posted on Jun 19 2012 12:36 PM Hi tubeswell The guys pulled the arm out but it was quite a struggle. It is the push in type and not threaded. Maybe a year of putting the guitar in the case with the arm in affected the end of the arm or something and it didnt want to come out. I remove the arm every time now. Cheers Top
Ariel Joined: Aug 29, 2009 Posts: 1556 Israel	Posted on Jun 19 2012 01:03 PM Surfocaster, just for your consideration, maybe it's not such a good idea. Installing/removing the arm repeatedly may weaken the collet, you already saw how much pressure it takes, as it sits very tight, but the collet teeth are fragile. This CLACK! is a bit scary, as you witnessed. On the other side, I see no harm in leaving it in all the time. Simple mechanical logic - more movement/change of pressure - more weakening of the material. Top
Surfocaster Joined: Jan 16, 2010 Posts: 214 Somerset, England	Posted on Jun 19 2012 03:21 PM I certainly will consider that. its a toss up between caseing it or leaving it at the mercy of two small children and two cats!! Cheers Nigel Top
Surfocaster Joined: Jan 16, 2010 Posts: 214 Somerset, England	Posted on Jun 20 2012 04:48 PM Has anybody seen these? http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Tremolo-upgrade-for-Fender-Jaguar-Jazzmaster-Eliminates-sloppy-tremolo-arm-/180895589620?pt=UK_Guitar_Accessories&var=&hash=item2a1e37a4f4 Cheers Nigel Last edited: Jun 20, 2012 16:48:49 Top
LeeVanCleef Joined: Oct 05, 2011 Posts: 744 France	Posted on Jun 20 2012 05:07 PM Yup, look here. — Old punks never die... They just become surf rockers. Top
Noel Joined: Mar 15, 2011 Posts: 8528 Back in Piitsburgh, Pennsylvania, where I grew up.	Posted on Jun 20 2012 05:38 PM Surfocaster wrote: Has anybody seen these? http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Tremolo-upgrade-for-Fender-Jaguar-Jazzmaster-Eliminates-sloppy-tremolo-arm-/180895589620?pt=UK_Guitar_Accessories&var=&hash=item2a1e37a4f4 Cheers Nigel Also yup. I've been thinking a lot about it. But I still have no idea how anyone can close a hard case on a Jag's/JM's installed tremolo arm. Have you cut out the padding to make a slot for it or do you use a custom case that has a cutout already? — This is Noel. Reverb's at maximum an' I'm givin' 'er all she's got. Top
Sobriquet Joined: May 31, 2012 Posts: 8	Posted on Jun 20 2012 05:43 PM The StayTrem is awesome. Came stock on my Johnny Marr Jaguar. FWIW, I pull the arm every time I case it up. Top
Number9 Joined: Jul 18, 2009 Posts: 499	Posted on Jun 20 2012 06:21 PM . Last edited: Mar 01, 2020 08:08:28 Top

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