LaFleur
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Leipzig
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Posted on Jun 03 2012 01:51 PM
We had some problems here and there with the made in Japan and made in Mexico guitars. Its not possible to set them up correctly. So the tuning was a big problem with all of them. We could fix it here and there with some pitch correction plug in's, but unfortunately we had to kick out El Dorado.
If anyone of you knows a really good tool to get recorded guitars in tune, maybe even automatically, feel free to contact me!
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JakeDobner
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Seattle
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Posted on Jun 03 2012 02:34 PM
It is possible to set those guitars up correctly. You are better off recording the parts again once you get the guitars set up correctly. I've owned these guitars before, they definitely are set-up worthy.
Using a program to auto-correct pitch is going to be noticeable or really expensive if the program you recorded with doesn't have it built in.
What is the issues with the guitars? Is your intonation off?
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Ariel
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Israel
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Posted on Jun 03 2012 03:06 PM
Well, there's Melodyne, that does multi-timbral correction.
Just know that manipulation of the audio signal on that big a scale can really degrade it, suck the life out of it. Could be passable for a demo, but if it's a full release, and/or on every track (not just a small local correction) - avoid solutions like that, and like Jake said - fix the problem at the source.
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LHR
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The jungle
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Posted on Jun 03 2012 03:39 PM
LaFleur wrote:
Its not possible to set them up correctly.
First, it is extremely rare to find a modern guitar that cannot be intonated. I would suggest busting out the tuner and the screwdriver and making it happen.
More importantly though, why would anyone waste his or her time playing seriously or recording an instrument with obviously poor intonation? No one would record a piano, for example, that could not produce the correct pitches. You'd just get another piano that worked, right?
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vintagesurfdude
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Posted on Jun 03 2012 05:45 PM
I believe Jake and LHR are correct, you should be able to correctly intonate pretty much any recent production guitars. The only one's I've had issues with were bad Floyd installs where the correct bridge take off point is beyond the range of adjustment of the bridge saddles. "auto-tuning" is a difficult solution at best, not well suited for stringed instruments. Best to recut the tracks with a properly intonated and tuned instrument. Believe me, you'll be happier with the results.
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LaFleur
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Leipzig
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Posted on Jun 04 2012 07:38 AM
The problem is that the intonation screw is already at the end. There are no more possibilities to get the saddle closer to the right side of the guitar. At no point, from the left to the right, the intonation is correct.
Wouldn't be myself if I haven't already tried every possibility on this.
The problem is that we have a strict release date and so we have to get the CD to the pressing plant on wednesday. We also do not have the possiblity to rerecord again cause we don't have the equipment anymore.
Maybe the pitch is just slightly out of tune and I listend to it too much in detail. Maybe someone else won't even realize it. Meanwhile I think the rythmguitar which is a DiPinto Galaxy is the problem.
Thanks for the hint with the program we will try it out today.
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JakeDobner
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Seattle
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Posted on Jun 04 2012 09:08 AM
Did you try not using a flat/roundwound string on that string? I'm guessing it is the g-string, and a switch would fix the intonation problem.
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killbabykill34
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Posted on Jun 04 2012 09:53 AM
I am with Jake. If not that, add a set of strings that have a wound 3rd. It has worked wonders for me in regard to issues with the G string.
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Stormtiger
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Posted on Jun 04 2012 11:05 AM
We have used pitch correction on some demos and I can't tell. Our drummer works for Line 6 and he uses some of their newer software, not sure of the name, that will let you adjust the pitch of one string in chord, it is amazing.
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Big_Ryan
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San Diego
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Posted on Jun 04 2012 11:28 AM
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PolloGuitar
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San Francisco
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Posted on Jun 04 2012 11:31 AM
Yeah, I have to agree with Big Ryan and others. Pitch correction is useful for a stray bad note, not an entire performance. Get that guitar tweaked, it will cost a lot less than having to redo a whole session.
Good luck with your project, I look forward to hearing it.
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LaFleur
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Leipzig
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Posted on Jun 05 2012 03:35 AM
Thanks for the help guys! We just found out that the problem is not my guitar. Its the DiPinto Rythm Guitar which is slightly bent too much. But we could fix it with the pitch correction. 
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LaFleur
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Leipzig
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Posted on Jun 05 2012 03:06 PM
Thanks for the hint with melodyne, its simply amazing!
It worked really well to get the guitar in tune without any noticeable difference in sound. I also think the guys who programmed this must be insane...
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