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Permalink Fender Stratocaster bridge: Floating or fixed ....?

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Hi all¡¡¡ Long time not consulted anything here .....

Well I wanted to propose a topic that I hope will be of pleasure to all lovers of the Stratocaster .....

I recently bought a second hand Fender Stratocaster model "Fender Stratocaster MIM Classic 68 Reverse Headstock" (http://www.musiciansfriend.com/guitars/fender-60s-reverse-headstock-strat-electric-guitar).
When you make a change of strings and a general adjustment to suit my taste, has given me think wonder if I leave the jumper set in a "floating" to use the lever or instead to leave it fixed .... the five springs and close to the body ..... As I commented that detail the guitar has a Fender 57/62 pickups and the gauge strings I use on all my guitars is 011-052 .....
The "because" it is because I have plantearmelo three guitars but with lever (a Squier Jagmaster practically transformed into a Jaguar while the bridge is kind Stratocaster "Vintage", a Squier Standard Stratocaster with two pivot type bridge "American Standard" and repainted blank for "nitro" (more change GFS "Lipstick" pickups and other changes ...) and Eastwood Saturn 63 with bridge type Jaguar ....).
It has given me leave to think the fixed bridge to change more than anything .... besides the previous owner sent me to the bridge close to the body and the truth is that I really like how it sounds.
I think it would be nice that all those who have a Fender Stratocaster then discuss what your preferences for the adjustment of the tremolo .... (if you like "floating" fixed, with more docks, less .... etc. .. ..) and "benefits" / "disadvantages" you find differences in sound and when adjusted to have it one way or another ..... and incidentally what are your "tricks" and steps to adjust ... .
I imagine that will depend much the style that touches everyone, but I have to say (from what I've been looking ....) than in the same style of music there are guitarists who prefer the bridge one way and some another ..... . For example, in the Blues music and "Surf" which are the styles that I play more ground ..... some people the blues like Eric Clapton, John Mayer, Rory Gallagher ..... who prefer the bridge stratos stuck to his body and others like Ike Turner who liked to stick to good shots of his guitars .... as for the Surf, but their sound is associated with good moves to give leverage to the guitars mixed with lots of reverb .... people like Dick Dale who is considered the "King of Surf" and has the bridge close to the body with the five piers posts and do not use the whammy bar ....
As I mentioned earlier, I play much Blues and Surf .... but I also like other styles of music such as jazz, pop / rock "indie", etc ....

Well, to see if anyone is encouraged to leave their two cents and experiences with the various jumper settings of a Stratocaster .... I think that might be interesting and helpful .....

A greeting from Spain and I hope your answers¡¡

I prefer the strat bridge to be floating. It gives notes more of a vocal quality and really adds a whole other dimension to your playing if you can incorporate the use of the tremolo arm both above and below pitch. You can be that much more expressive in your playing.

With the strat, you need to balance the adjustment of the string tension, tremolo claw and saddle height all together as one unit. It can take some time to get it all in balance. But once, you do, you shouldn't have to mess with it for a long time. Until you change string gauges....

If you're new to setting up strats, I can't reccomend this book highly enough. It is an excellent resource to learning how to get your strat set up to your liking and saving you from going to the luthier for basic stuff.

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Last edited: May 15, 2012 10:07:55

I have a "2-pivot" bridge on my '91 Strat Plus & a "6 screw" in my "Highyway 1". Although I'm (trained) used to the 6 screw "older" version, I find the "2-pivots" allows me to eliminate the "bar", and just use my hand to pull up lightly on the bridge, giving a subtle vibrato bend. (You CAN bend it deeper, w/a lil' more "elbow(finger) grease"). I like them both equally. (I know this poses no "answer", but I'm 50/50 with either one). I'm used to the 6-bolt cos' I had it in my '66 for all those years, but the 2-pivot eliminates my need for a whammy bar (on that model). (I also "abuse" the effect a lot less this way & "it floats") !

Last edited: May 15, 2012 10:41:11

If you use the tremolo it should float, Fender recommends about 1/8" from the body. For me it is more important to have nice tremolo action than more sustain or resonance, which I assume is why some people prefer a fixed bridge. I have heard people say they don't need a tremolo because they bend strings but you can only bend up. Dick Dale does some dips by lifting the rear of the bridge with his finger but neither of these methods can give the shimmery pitch variation and expressiveness of a floating tremolo.

I have a nice old Japanese Electra sort-of Strat copy. I put a 6-screw Wilkinson trem in it with a push-in arm. At first, I adjusted the plate flush with the body, but later tried floating it about 1/8" and what a difference! I hate to say it, but I'm starting to prefer it to my Jag trem. What a range of expression. I also put JM pickups in the guitar and it SINGS.

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Last edited: May 15, 2012 13:02:38

I have it floating is well. The only way to properly play tunes by the Atlantics.

If it's fixed and pressed on the body, there is an amount of force required until it starts to move, making down-bends awkward and hard to control. If it floats, the slightest force apllication will have an effect, making the bends easier and more expressive. But if you play like Dick Dale or SRV, maybe you should have it fixed.

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Hello again¡¡
As I commented that I have adjusted the bridge of my Classic 68 to leave attached to the body.
I put five springs but I have not done is to put the piece of wood, as though he wanted to leave on the body, I preferred not to let it "locked" .... So, if I feel like from time to time , I can give some movement with the whammy bar to lower the note pitch ...
If it is true that it shows little more sustain and resonance .... also I think it helps that the previous owner of the guitar you put a good steel tremolo block.
I have also noticed that the guitar has improved in stability in the tuning as I've been "abusing" a conscience for a while and was virtually no tune .... The only "but" I have observed is that the touch the strings now is something harder or tense .... or at least that's the feeling that has given me .... I guess as with everything .... will be getting used.
What if I have no doubt that is whether to adjust the bridge to let him close to the body (as I did ...) you should press much or little the six screws that are at the base of the bridge .... I have tight until I noticed that made contact with the base of the bridge but I have not pressed or forced more .... I also have doubts of what I have to tighten the screws from behind, ie that adjust the springs .... I have been pressing to have the guitar tuned to more or less I have seen the bridge plate into contact with the body of the guitar.
See if someone gives me a hand with this ....
Many thanks for all the help¡¡
A greeting¡¡

I prefer floating trems for both 2-point and 6-point Strat trem units.

In fact, I feel as though I've done my Strats a disservice if they aren't set up to float! Uh-Oh

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I also prefer the floating trem. I have a 57 AVRI and it is setup to factory specs 3/32 on the trem. I use 11 gauge DR Pure blues strings and the sustain is great and this guitar stays in tune like you wouldn't beiieve! I'm using 4 springs on the tremolo. It plays amazingly well, awesome guitar.

Floating is surely the ultimate in surf guitar....but you better have a spare guitar for the gig cause when a string breaks with a floating bridge....bye bye music!

I like 'em floating. It's the way I believe they were designed to be used and it's the way I set the ones we build in our shop up when they ship out unless a customer requests otherwise. I also think they sound better this way.
As much as I like Bigsbys and Jag trems it's really hard to beat the feel of a well set up floating strat trem and if the nut is cut correctly and the bridge is adjusted properly, with care, they stay in tune great.

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