@LeeVanCleef: so its really impossible to swap to jag to a standard mustang bridge? what would happen, if i do? string to high above the fretboard? and hows about that adjustable saddles? do i have to buy them single or is there a bridge where they are included?

edit: would this one be working? http://www.warmoth.com/Modified-Mustang-Bridge-Chrome-P616C700.aspx

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ok, thank you

If the wood is such a big deal then how do you account for the AMAZING sounds Les Paul got out of "the log?" It was basically just a 4 x 4 chunk of pine. Pine isn't exactly the choice wood for guitar. I think these are going to be great. In my opinion, a great way for someone to get a Jag or Jazzy for good money and upgrade the electronics whenever they can afford it. Pickups, electronics, and amp are the most important.

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Well let's see...

Squier J Mascis signature Jazzmaster
MSRP=$599
US street price=$399
Europe street price=€399

Squier Vintage Modified Jaguar/Jazzmaster/Mustang
MSRP=$499
You do the math

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I think the main reason of the mustang bridge is the because strings are lsss likely to pop out, no?

With the price of this guitar, i hope to hve enough spare change left over to find a used Boss/Fender reverb pedal... That all wacked up thru my vibro champ? oh yeah..

No controversy at all.

The majority of tone from a solid body electric guitar comes from the pickups, the electronic componants, the type of strings, the amp settings and the finally, the plectrum - pretty much in that order.

Unless we're talking about archtop jazz guitars, or nice 4 figure flattops with straight-grain spruce, or expensive Flamenco/Classical guitars, -- wood figures little in the tone equation.

Fender, for instance, doesn't select Alder, Ash, or Basswood for 'tone'...those are the hardwoods of choice for crafting, finishing and price/availability reasons.

P.S. For anyone who believes that you can't buy tone, get rid of your expensive vintage blonde Showman or brownface Bandmaster and save some money with a nice mid-80's solid-state Peavey.

Louie7 wrote:

The majority of tone from a solid body electric guitar comes from the pickups, the electronic componants, the type of strings, the amp settings and the finally, the plectrum - pretty much in that order.

I agree. But whenever I play my electric guitars unplugged I can hear and feel a difference in resonance between them. That difference comes most likely from the variation in body shapes, bridge/vibrato system and wood. Or possibly it's all in my head. Anyway this difference is mostly perceptible acoustically, but I believe it also plays a part indirectly in the amplified sound, although obviously much less significant than the pickups or the amp.

The important word here is "believe". I don't know enough about physics and acoustics to support this and I admit I might very well be 100% wrong. But if I am, I'm sure you wouldn't mind trading a vintage Jazzmaster body (or at least an AVRI) for a basswood one, right?

As for the influence of the electronic components, I'm perplexed about all the people upgrading their guitars' tone circuits with Orange Drops and similar mojo capacitors... I've always heard the difference between various types of caps isn't significant at low voltages.

Old punks never die... They just become surf rockers.

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so1om wrote:

as for caps, orange drops, whatever.. .022uF is .022uF. Electrons can't tell the difference with that. So it goes directly to the "perception" and what people believe what they are hearing. If someone can here the difference in a cap over another, i got a job for you. You can start monday.

I doubt that I could hear it, but I could probably measure it. No electronic component is entirely linear in its response. I haven't done those equations in a long, long time (thankfully since college), but there's probably some differential stuff going on there, too. Doesn't mean it's significant, just like it's not significant tone-wise whether the pickup has a lead that 6" or 7" long.

And where I work, we have guys whose whole job is to pick the right caps and suchlike. And others to reject those selections in favor of cheaper ones.

Sonic Blue Jazzmaster and Surf Green Jaguar...Fender USA should be doing those colors!!!!

Matt "tha Kat" Lentz
Skippy and the Skipjacks: 2018-2020
Skippyandtheskipjacks.net
https://www.facebook.com/skippyandtheskipjacks
Otto and the Ottomans: 2014-2015
The Coconauts surf band: 2009-2014
www.theamazingcoconauts.com
Group Captain and the Mandrakes 2013
http://www.gcmband.com/
The Surfside IV: 2002-2005, 2008-2009
the Del-Vamps: 1992-1999, 2006-2007
http://www.dblcrown.com/delvamps.html

Finally it seems they got it right
$299 street price.

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