RaistMagus
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Posted on Feb 11 2012 01:00 PM
Hi all!
My 'sound' up to now when rehearsing and gigging is defined by my strat and my pedals. I haven't got a decent amp yet so I plug into whatever amp I find there.
How would the PowerBlock compare to a random transistor Marshall or a Hot Rod Deluxe? I'm considering getting one as my main amp. Is it bassman-like or blackface-like? Does it sound like a ss rectifier amp or does it sag? Mids scooped or normal?
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killbabykill34
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Posted on Feb 11 2012 01:12 PM
These are great little amps. I have been planning on picking one up as a touring backup for some time now. However, comparing them to and Fender Tube amp is futile. They are just not the same. They do have a great clean tone though. Mostly, though, your sound will still be defined by what pedals you are using.
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Posted on Feb 12 2012 12:01 PM
Power Blocks are clean transistor sound: sort of like a Roland keyboard amp, or an PA system. Takes the input signal and amplifies it with very little coloring of the tone. There is a bit of drive to a Power Block if you push the input volume. The tone section does boost or cut highs, mids and bass...the bass frequencies seem most pronounced.
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Posted on Feb 12 2012 05:20 PM
A powerblock is my main gigging amp right now ( until my silvertone is out of the shop ) and I love it.
Noah is dead on. The clean is good and you will have to use pedals. However i discovered that of you crank the gain all the way you get a very marshally/plexi-like growl. Plus it fits in my gear bag!
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Big_Ryan
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Posted on Feb 12 2012 05:54 PM
i have a friend with one, its really great thing to keep in your trunk just in case your tube amp craps out
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Posted on Feb 12 2012 10:58 PM
I usually use a Silvertone 1485 but I've been using a Powerblock with an old 15" Pyledriver lately for convience purposes. It's good for live situations and I don't mind using a solid state amp for live gigs but deff not recording, too shrill and hard sounding for me unless I'm running several amps and blending. Go ahead, get the Crate. I crank the level all the way, use the gain as my main, high at about 3:00, mid around 12:00 and low around 9:00, sounds good with my 15, don't know about a 12.
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Posted on Feb 12 2012 11:36 PM
A lot of us like the Powerblock. Mostly for a backup. I used mine on a gig and liked it. More discussion here:
http://surfguitar101.com/forums/topic/9404/
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RaistMagus
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Posted on Feb 13 2012 12:56 AM
Thanks for the info guys! I've read the other threads that discuss the Powerblock, I just wanted some more details.
When you say I'm going to need pedals you're talking about drive/distortion, right?
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killbabykill34
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Posted on Feb 13 2012 08:00 AM
Reverb...You can get some drive from the head, but you will probably want an overdrive pedal and/or distortion pedal.
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Posted on Feb 20 2012 07:41 AM
I bought a Powerblock yesterday! ![Smile Smile](/media/smiley/images/icon_smile.gif)
I listened to it through a 1x12 and a 2x12 cab and I A/B-ed it with a JTM45 (made with old stock materials)
Impressions
It sounds nice. I like the clarity and the definition of the notes. It does sound sterile but I think I am hearing what my guitar sounds like with no coloring whatsoever. Ofcourse it's colored by the speaker but I'm feeling it's the most neutral sound I've gotten. The JTM45 on 1-2/10 was much better, sounding full and spacious and alive, but this is to be expected when comparing a 130euro SS amp with a 1800euro handwired (old stock) tube amp.
I tried my Hardwire RV-7 reverb and a couple of overdrive pedals with it and I think the sterility remains. I'll have a better versed opinion after I've played it for some time.
Questions
What is a 'speaker cable', how does it differ form the usual 1/4" instrument cable and what happens if use the usual 1/4" instead of a 'speaker cable' to connect my Powerblock to a cab? (or any other amp head to a cab)
I found the Powerblock not loud. With level maxed, I needed the gain at 7/10 to get a loud enough sound for a miced gig through the 2x12. The 1x12 was even less loud. Is there any case my PB is broken?
What's with the multiple outputs? I know I shouldn't plug an amp into speakers with less impendance that the amp's designed for. I also know that amps shouldn't work without a load. PB has an 150W @ 8Ω MIN mono outpout and two (left-right) 75W @ 4Ω MIN outputs. If I have a 4Ω cab can I use only one mono output? Will it feed power to both L/R resulting in failure of the other mono output?
I know how I should match amp/cab imepdances but what about matching wattage? How is it fed and distributed to multiple speakers and what are the tolerances/acceptable deviations?
Has anyone tried the xlr line-out to a console? What do you think of the built-in speaker simulation, quality-wise?
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killbabykill34
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Posted on Feb 20 2012 08:08 AM
If the amp ends up sounding too sterile for you, I suggest picking up the Boss FDR-1 or FBM-1 pedals. That should do a decent job of giving you a fender amp tone, while using the power block as you power amp.
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Posted on Feb 20 2012 11:48 AM
Instrument cable vs. Speaker cable from Fender.com.
If you use an instrument cable as a speaker cable, you're probably OK at low signal levels. At high signal levels, though, trouble brews—all that amp power attempts to flow through the instrument cable's too-small conductor. The unhappy result is that a lot of amp power is converted to heat and never even reaches the speakers. You get reduced speaker output, some probable distortion and, in extreme situations, heat-induced cable or cable connector failure. And you definitely don't want your amp overheating.
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Ripley1046
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Posted on Feb 20 2012 12:34 PM
One thing to remember with the Power Block is it's only 75 watts per channel. To get the 150w you need 2 cabs. That may be the volume issue you're having.
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Stormtiger
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Posted on Feb 20 2012 02:10 PM
Mono is 150 watts, stereo is 75 watts per channel. 2 cabs is not necessary to get 150 watts.
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Posted on Feb 20 2012 03:34 PM
Ah, my bad. It's been a few years since I used one.
I was in a band with 2 other guitarist that used them. Almost bought one, but never got around to it. They are killer amps for anyone that uses a lot of effects or a processor. It's a good backup too.
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