Time based effects should be at the end of the effects chain...fine.
But where do YOU put the delay/echo. Before or after the outboard reverb?

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Outboard is always last in my chain.

And time effects don't always have to be at the end of the chain. I often use tremolo, POG, and Rat after delay. I use two delay pedals on my board, Boss Space Echo is the first pedal, that will often get reverb reverb with it or tremolo. And my analog is third in my chain, with a TS-808 as second in the chain. The TS-808 is more or less a clean boost, but not always. Tremolo, Reverse Reverb, POG, RAT, outboard all after the delay. I'll have a fuzz face first in the chain every now and then. Fuzz isn't my favorite effect, sounds good a certain way with the POG though. I don't delay the POG ever, but I have another delay(analog) I'd put after it if that was my desire.

I would never use a noise reduction pedal, it just doesn't bother me enough to spend any money at all on it, or to take up the space.

It could be worth noting that I don't like my delays very noticeable, I'd rather individual repeats not be very distinct, reverb after the fact helps mask this. With slapback, this wouldn't be desirable, but I don't use slapback.

Tremolo before reverb washes out the trem. You may or may not like the result. However, the classic setup is guitar-reverb-amp, which places tremolo at the end of the chain.

I use a vibrato pedal, and unlike tremolo, I find that reverb actually intensifies the vibrato. It turns out the Magnatone amps with vibrato and reverb place the vibrato before reverb. This differs from Fender tremolo/reverb amps, which place tremolo after reverb.

My chain is relatively simple and goes delay-vibrato-reverb-harmonic vibrato-amp/tremolo. The 'harmonic vibrato' is a pedal that reproduces the tremolo used in some brown and blonde amps. I think it chops up the reverb in a rather interesting way.

If it ain't broke, fix it until it is.

Onslow_Beach wrote:

Curious, BJB, what harmonic vibrato pedal are you
using?

It's one I designed and built myself. My bandmate built a tube version of Fender's harmonic vibrato circuit which sounded great but it is rather large and inconvenient. I had recently made a Magnatone-style vibrato pedal so I thought I should try to make an equivalent harmonic vibrato circuit in convenient pedal form. So I did.

There are some commercial versions that are available now, but I haven't tried any of them. There are a few different circuits that Fender used and a few different ways to implement the circuit, so I wonder what these other people wound up doing in their pedals.

If it ain't broke, fix it until it is.

Matter of taste, or matter of pedal capability as well. A good tremolo pedal isn't going to be bothered by reverb after it. Even a crappy tremolo pedal with reverb after has to sound as good as blackface onboard tremolo.

Some makes act better with gain afterwards and other with the gain before, at least to my playing around.

...so where does everyone put their BBE Sonic Stomp (Sonic Maximizer)?

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Do you use that? The only pedal I use on my bass is a BOSS RV-5 set on full modulate which is a subtle modulated hall reverb. It sounds cool and gives my bass a slightly metallic sound that really stands out.

As for reverb and delay, I guess I'm really old-fashioned. Strat >> tuner >> delay >> tremolo >> reverb >> amp (Fender Stage 112SE). I often use my
amp's spring reverb behind the delay or behind the tremolo. I don't often find a use for tremolo and delay at the same time unless I'm trying to immitate a 1950's movie flying saucer sound with up and down glissandos
(it sounds amazing). I've experimented with my FRV-1 and the delay and tremolo pedals, but usually have to turn it down to basically match the amp's reverb on 10. I usually use either delay with amp reverb or my
FRV-1.

I'll be ordering a Quilter MicroPro-200 later this week, a Texotica outboard reverb soon after that and a BOSS Space Echo later. I expect these to change a lot of things.

OOPS! I left out my fuzz but I generally use it by itself or with the amp's reverb and very little delay or tremolo if I use them at all.

Strat >> tuner >> fuzz >> delay >> tremolo >> reverb >> amp.

dp wrote:

...so where does everyone put their BBE Sonic Stomp
(Sonic Maximizer)?

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This is Noel. Reverb's at maximum an' I'm givin' 'er all she's got.

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On a shelf next to my flanger pedal

Danny Snyder

"With great reverb comes great responsibility" - Uncle Leo

I am now playing trumpet with Prince Buster tribute band 'Balzac'

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Formerly a guitarist in The TomorrowMen and Meshugga Beach Party

Latest surf project - Now That's What I Call SURF

@dp: my wah is placed after gain/od/dist but before all the other mod/time based effects.

@danny:

@Jake: I'm using the mxr stereo tremolo, so no question regarding quality here, I think. What happens when I use it before the reverb is that you get some extra drips out if the reverb (square wave and mix at max). So the signal goes stutter stutter splash stutter. But again: this might be the effect someone is looking for...I'll upload an example.

http://soundcloud.com/whitespy/stutter

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