raito
Joined: Oct 16, 2008
Posts: 552
Madison, WI
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Posted on Oct 12 2011 09:39 AM
Back when I was doing that sort of thing, another reason that a band might throw in any sort of instrumental tune was to give the singer a break, especially if he had a weak voice. The band I worked for broke down to about 50% of the songs sung by the lead singer, maybe 20% each by the drummer and rhythm guitarist, and the bass player and lead guitarist had about a song each for the night. That meant that they played nothing instrumental, but that was OK.
Back then, bands playing their own music had a limited number of venues to play at locally, and got $250 a night tops (most paid a LOT less). Play the top 40 and you were playing bowling alleys, but for $600 a night.
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killbabykill34
Joined: Apr 03, 2010
Posts: 3201
Jacksonville, AL
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Posted on Oct 12 2011 11:17 AM
raito wrote:
Back when I was doing that sort of thing, another
reason that a band might throw in any sort of
instrumental tune was to give the singer a break,
especially if he had a weak voice. The band I worked
for broke down to about 50% of the songs sung by the
lead singer, maybe 20% each by the drummer and rhythm
guitarist, and the bass player and lead guitarist had
about a song each for the night. That meant that they
played nothing instrumental, but that was OK.
Back then, bands playing their own music had a limited
number of venues to play at locally, and got $250 a
night tops (most paid a LOT less). Play the top 40 and
you were playing bowling alleys, but for $600 a night.
Not much has changed for band playing original music. From my touring experience over the past year and from speaking to other touring bands that we have shared bills with, 250 a night is actually above average these days. It is a sad, sad state of affairs...
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SanchoPansen
Joined: Jan 04, 2011
Posts: 1588
Berlin L-Berg
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Posted on Oct 12 2011 02:19 PM
totally off-topic, but in europe it's the same payment. 250,00 EUR if you're lucky...
— The Hicadoolas
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reissue
Joined: Dec 14, 2006
Posts: 19
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Posted on Oct 12 2011 02:56 PM
I don't play out these days, but so much of it depends on the venue. Most of the working bands I know have carved out a niche. That usually requires maintaining a somewhat steady repertoire. For example the blues bands get bookings, decent contracts and steady work because the are working the same venues and the expectation is they draw a crowd based on what they are known for. The weekend hobbyist guys I know, the Sun. afternoon on a patio, no contract, no following etc. can get away with genre bending because the are background music at best.
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RaistMagus
Joined: Mar 30, 2011
Posts: 388
Copenhagen
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Posted on Oct 13 2011 07:28 AM
We mix surf with a bit of garage, add some progressiveness and occasionally perform in a punkish way. The resulting songs are hard to categorize. Our originals are not the standard 12-bar w/turnaround surf, there are lots of changes in the melodic lines and in drumming so we try to keep our set under 1 hour, 1:15 max.
I've found that you can hold the attention of the crowd with your overall presence including your enthusiasm, expression, motion, talking between the songs, shouts during the songs etc. Add 2-3 familiar tunes somewhere in between your originals and you're fine.
We also share the nights with similar-sounding bands with vocals (there are no other surf bands here, anyway)
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killbabykill34
Joined: Apr 03, 2010
Posts: 3201
Jacksonville, AL
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Posted on Oct 13 2011 09:26 AM
RaistMagus wrote:
We mix surf with a bit of garage, add some
progressiveness and occasionally perform in a punkish
way. The resulting songs are hard to categorize. Our
originals are not the standard 12-bar w/turnaround
surf, there are lots of changes in the melodic lines
and in drumming so we try to keep our set under 1 hour,
1:15 max.
I've found that you can hold the attention of the crowd
with your overall presence including your enthusiasm,
expression, motion, talking between the songs, shouts
during the songs etc. Add 2-3 familiar tunes somewhere
in between your originals and you're fine.
We also share the nights with similar-sounding bands
with vocals (there are no other surf bands here,
anyway)
Athens, GA? While there aren't any surf bands in that town, there is a decent size surf movement happening in your region.
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killbabykill34
Joined: Apr 03, 2010
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Jacksonville, AL
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Posted on Oct 13 2011 09:26 AM
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bangbang
Joined: Jun 14, 2006
Posts: 183
N.C.
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Posted on Oct 13 2011 08:45 PM
Surf , Sci Fi ,Spy , Spaghetti Western , TV & Movie themes , Lounge , Latin
RockaBilly , Blues and much more ....
— Johnny Rocket
The Monterreys !
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BJB
Joined: Jul 28, 2008
Posts: 413
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Posted on Oct 14 2011 06:35 PM
AnalogSurf wrote:
When the guy who owns the joint and is paying asks for
somthing
different you change gears...
Wow, there are places where the owner cares what you play? Most places I've been to don't even have the owner present, and some of the owners I have seen don't even notice if the band is playing.
Back in 1992, there was a "Battle of the Surf Bands" in Huntington Beach:
http://articles.latimes.com/1992-06-30/entertainment/ca-1263_1_huntington-beach
There were some first-wave surf bands there but they played mostly oldies with a few of their original surf classics. To me, it was quite disappointing since it was a "Battle of the Surf Bands"! However, this is how these bands survived the 60's in the first place. Fortunately, there are plenty of opportunity around here to see and play all-instrumental gigs.
I don't know if it counts, but there are several types of instrumental genres around. Lots of good blues instrumentals from Freddie King and others, country instrumentals, plus the Shadows instrumentals aren't exactly surf, are they?
— If it ain't broke, fix it until it is.
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JakeDobner
Joined: Feb 26, 2006
Posts: 12159
Seattle
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Posted on Oct 14 2011 06:45 PM
BJB wrote:
Wow, there are places where the owner cares what you
play? Most places I've been to don't even have the
owner present, and some of the owners I have seen don't
even notice if the band is playing.
Exactly, I've never encountered this. You can't even call yourself a band if you play what the owner of a bar wants you to play. There is no artistic integrity to that.
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krupanut
Joined: Feb 27, 2006
Posts: 492
Austin Texas
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Posted on Oct 17 2011 02:37 PM
eddiekatcher wrote:
Shoot yeah........we do vocal (s). "Let's
Go!".............that's a vocal, isn't it?
ed
I like the lyrics in Church Key better. 
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Noel
Joined: Mar 15, 2011
Posts: 8528
Back in Piitsburgh, Pennsylvania, where I grew up.
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Posted on Oct 17 2011 03:12 PM
Moon Dawg!
— This is Noel. Reverb's at maximum an' I'm givin' 'er all she's got.
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kaydas
Joined: Oct 30, 2011
Posts: 2
irvine,ca
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Posted on Nov 01 2011 01:08 AM
Surf 'n Steel....
I play lap steel guitar and I love the music of The Shadows. I have recorded many Shadows tunes such as "Atlantis", " Peacepipe", "Cosy" etc. etc. I have recorded two CDs, the first of which is called....predictably... "Shadows on Steel". I am new to this forum and have just posted my latest recording, in The Shallow End of this forum.
Kay
Last edited: Nov 01, 2011 01:10:13
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Noel
Joined: Mar 15, 2011
Posts: 8528
Back in Piitsburgh, Pennsylvania, where I grew up.
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Posted on Nov 01 2011 08:45 AM
You've come to the right place. Welcome. Your playing is beautiful.
http://soundcloud.com/kay-das/everybody-hurts
kaydas wrote:
Surf 'n Steel....
I play lap steel guitar and I love the music of The
Shadows. I have recorded many Shadows tunes such as
"Atlantis", " Peacepipe", "Cosy" etc. etc. I have
recorded two CDs, the first of which is
called....predictably... "Shadows on Steel". I am new
to this forum and have just posted my latest recording,
in The Shallow End of this forum.
Kay
— This is Noel. Reverb's at maximum an' I'm givin' 'er all she's got.
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dp
Joined: Feb 26, 2006
Posts: 3546
mojave desert, california
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Posted on Nov 01 2011 05:58 PM
it seems like all the surf I play is "surf:other"... 
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