Degrees of distortion...

LaFleur

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Posted on Oct 05 2011 10:19 AM

@Danny: What kind of Tube Screamer do you use and how do you set it?

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LaFleur

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Posted on Oct 05 2011 12:16 PM

Do you use it in this song?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u3KxCPyMhbE

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DannySnyder

Joined: Mar 02, 2006
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Posted on Oct 05 2011 07:51 PM

Nope, I use a clean boost called Boosta Grande. Mel gets enough dirt for both of us with his mosrites, so I try to keep it clean with just the amp distorting a bit.
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For the Tmen I use the TS808 reissue.

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Squid

Joined: Aug 22, 2010
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Posted on Oct 05 2011 09:41 PM

It's surfy overdrive or distortion where tubes and a few digital tube emulators shine. The solid state effects (and most digital tube emulators) I've used are too rough, raspy, grindy, or bass-deficient punchless. Some of the solid state effects are "pretty good," such as those built into Vox and Carvin solid state amps, and the Rat. Still, they are no match for the Ibanez Tube King, the all-tube Traynor Class A amp, or the Line 6 POD. The Rat has no bass punch. Distortion is what tube amps (and high quality emulators) are all about (except for Fenders of course).

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Gimlet

Joined: Dec 24, 2006
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Oz
Australia

Posted on Oct 08 2011 08:01 AM

I have used modelled amps and pedals - and the closest I seem to get to the tone from the old Atlantics records my folks used to play me is cranking or boosting - more overdrive than distortion; I'm running a bunch of different amps and use either a BajaTech booster or a MXR Micro Amp.
The MI Audio Blues Pro overdrive pedal with a little tweaking towards the trebly end can give a great ragged Strat tone.
I have seen an OD pedal after a reverb pedal produce an awesome tone in less than typical surf amps.
More of a "clang" than a "twang"?

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Big_Ryan

Joined: May 01, 2011
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San Diego
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Posted on Oct 08 2011 12:45 PM

i use an ocd with the drive at like %5-%10 and it does a really good job giving just a little bit of crunch and raw attitude without actually sounding over driven or distorted

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Ariel

Joined: Aug 29, 2009
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Israel
Israel

Posted on Oct 08 2011 03:10 PM

I'm currently lusting for this thing:
image Empress Multidrive

300 bucks . Sheesh, I know should to get my Reverb and amp situation sorted first (currently FRV and BJr. not bad but not really good...) but this thing is tempting. So versatile, and the treat is that it runs all 3 circuits in parallel, with hi/lo cut on each channel and a summing stage EQ. And the buttons are real shiny!

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LaFleur

Joined: May 20, 2009
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Leipzig
Germany

Posted on Oct 08 2011 03:25 PM

Sounds really good in the video. Maybe I try one of these to boost my Surfer. Its too clean...

Which effects do you use in this video?

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DannySnyder

Joined: Mar 02, 2006
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Berkeley, CA
United States

Posted on Oct 08 2011 05:38 PM

I'm using the Tube Screamer in that video. I set it on about a third of the way up.

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Playing keys and guitar with Combo Tezeta

Formerly a guitarist in The TomorrowMen and Meshugga Beach Party

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LaFleur

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Leipzig
Germany

Posted on Oct 09 2011 02:55 AM

Thanks Danny! Do you mean the Boosta Grande or the TS808? I guess you mean the TS808. So you set Overdrive, Level and Tone to a third of the way up?

Two thumbs up for your playing!

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Swamp_Surfer

Joined: Aug 04, 2011
Posts: 4
Margaritaville State of Mind

Posted on Oct 13 2011 09:18 AM

I actually love surf guitar with dirt. That's the style I like to use in my solos. Just reverb, tube dirt (Fender Deluxe tube amp cranked up and drive to about 3 or 4) and the occasional either Rockabilly Slap-back or Tremelo. That makes the sound just damn cool.

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LaFleur Joined: May 20, 2009 Posts: 525 Leipzig	Posted on Oct 05 2011 10:19 AM @Danny: What kind of Tube Screamer do you use and how do you set it? — http://www.reverbnation.com/bangmustang http://www.facebook.com/bangmustang https://soundcloud.com/bang-mustang Top
LaFleur Joined: May 20, 2009 Posts: 525 Leipzig	Posted on Oct 05 2011 12:16 PM Do you use it in this song? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u3KxCPyMhbE — http://www.reverbnation.com/bangmustang http://www.facebook.com/bangmustang https://soundcloud.com/bang-mustang Top
DannySnyder Joined: Mar 02, 2006 Posts: 11076 Berkeley, CA	Posted on Oct 05 2011 07:51 PM Nope, I use a clean boost called Boosta Grande. Mel gets enough dirt for both of us with his mosrites, so I try to keep it clean with just the amp distorting a bit. image For the Tmen I use the TS808 reissue. — Danny Snyder "With great reverb comes great responsibility" - Uncle Leo I am now playing trumpet with Prince Buster tribute band 'Balzac' Playing keys and guitar with Combo Tezeta Formerly a guitarist in The TomorrowMen and Meshugga Beach Party Latest surf project - Now That's What I Call SURF Top
Squid Joined: Aug 22, 2010 Posts: 1019 Portland, Oregon with Insanitizers	Posted on Oct 05 2011 09:41 PM It's surfy overdrive or distortion where tubes and a few digital tube emulators shine. The solid state effects (and most digital tube emulators) I've used are too rough, raspy, grindy, or bass-deficient punchless. Some of the solid state effects are "pretty good," such as those built into Vox and Carvin solid state amps, and the Rat. Still, they are no match for the Ibanez Tube King, the all-tube Traynor Class A amp, or the Line 6 POD. The Rat has no bass punch. Distortion is what tube amps (and high quality emulators) are all about (except for Fenders of course). — Insanitizers! http://www.insanitizers.com Last edited: Oct 05, 2011 21:45:03 Top
Gimlet Joined: Dec 24, 2006 Posts: 36 Oz	Posted on Oct 08 2011 08:01 AM I have used modelled amps and pedals - and the closest I seem to get to the tone from the old Atlantics records my folks used to play me is cranking or boosting - more overdrive than distortion; I'm running a bunch of different amps and use either a BajaTech booster or a MXR Micro Amp. The MI Audio Blues Pro overdrive pedal with a little tweaking towards the trebly end can give a great ragged Strat tone. I have seen an OD pedal after a reverb pedal produce an awesome tone in less than typical surf amps. More of a "clang" than a "twang"? Top
Big_Ryan Joined: May 01, 2011 Posts: 578 San Diego	Posted on Oct 08 2011 12:45 PM i use an ocd with the drive at like %5-%10 and it does a really good job giving just a little bit of crunch and raw attitude without actually sounding over driven or distorted — http://dinosaurghost.bandcamp.com/ http://sixtycyclehum.podbean.com Top
Ariel Joined: Aug 29, 2009 Posts: 1556 Israel	Posted on Oct 08 2011 03:10 PM I'm currently lusting for this thing: image Empress Multidrive 300 bucks . Sheesh, I know should to get my Reverb and amp situation sorted first (currently FRV and BJr. not bad but not really good...) but this thing is tempting. So versatile, and the treat is that it runs all 3 circuits in parallel, with hi/lo cut on each channel and a summing stage EQ. And the buttons are real shiny! Top
LaFleur Joined: May 20, 2009 Posts: 525 Leipzig	Posted on Oct 08 2011 03:25 PM Sounds really good in the video. Maybe I try one of these to boost my Surfer. Its too clean... Which effects do you use in this video? — http://www.reverbnation.com/bangmustang http://www.facebook.com/bangmustang https://soundcloud.com/bang-mustang Last edited: Oct 08, 2011 17:37:52 Top
DannySnyder Joined: Mar 02, 2006 Posts: 11076 Berkeley, CA	Posted on Oct 08 2011 05:38 PM I'm using the Tube Screamer in that video. I set it on about a third of the way up. — Danny Snyder "With great reverb comes great responsibility" - Uncle Leo I am now playing trumpet with Prince Buster tribute band 'Balzac' Playing keys and guitar with Combo Tezeta Formerly a guitarist in The TomorrowMen and Meshugga Beach Party Latest surf project - Now That's What I Call SURF Top
LaFleur Joined: May 20, 2009 Posts: 525 Leipzig	Posted on Oct 09 2011 02:55 AM Thanks Danny! Do you mean the Boosta Grande or the TS808? I guess you mean the TS808. So you set Overdrive, Level and Tone to a third of the way up? Two thumbs up for your playing! — http://www.reverbnation.com/bangmustang http://www.facebook.com/bangmustang https://soundcloud.com/bang-mustang Last edited: Oct 09, 2011 12:44:47 Top
Swamp_Surfer Joined: Aug 04, 2011 Posts: 4 Margaritaville State of Mind	Posted on Oct 13 2011 09:18 AM I actually love surf guitar with dirt. That's the style I like to use in my solos. Just reverb, tube dirt (Fender Deluxe tube amp cranked up and drive to about 3 or 4) and the occasional either Rockabilly Slap-back or Tremelo. That makes the sound just damn cool. Top

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