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Permalink Lap Steel? Anyone use one? What tuning do you use?

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zzero wrote:

now, this subject i find interesting! always wanted to
dabble in the lap steel thing; this may be a good time
to start!
i use a strange tuning for the acoustic and occasionaly
for the electric.
it's---e-b-e(an octave higher than the 6th string)-e(in
unison with the 4th string)-b-e. makes a big roar when
i use it to mimic Indian sitar music and such. it can
be pretty limiting at times but it's the only open
tuning i reaqlly know. will work on the tunings i see
posted above and see what i can do with them! this will
be really bad or really fun!!!!

As long as you're having fun, it's all good! (As long as people aren't throwing things at you, calling the police, and/or braking your hands!)

There is a tremendous book, "the complete Book of Alternate Tunings" by Mark Hanson, published by Accent On Music c1995.

Good luck, zzero!

Bob

Bob

Last edited: Sep 21, 2011 20:03:10

Make this thread a sticky. Steel tunings are voodoo. Over the coming years, perhaps others will add their favorite recipes.

For the record, I play an Oahu Stringmaster steel like the one shown above but with a weird Rowe Stringtone bridge. It allows three tunings, that adjust with a levered cam kind of arrangement: A major (string 1 to 6: E-C#-A-E-C#-A), E major (E-B-G#-E-B-E.), and C# minor (E-C#-G#-E-B-E). It is shown here, with the cover off to illustrate the cam and stop action:

image

You can do pedal steel sorts of tricks with it. Almost useless in surf but fun.

SSIV

Last edited: Sep 22, 2011 02:34:46

LHR:

That Oahu Tonemaster has another one of the classic old single coil p/us. Huge sound. Beautiful guitar!
MD

Thanks Bob!! most definitely fun!! will find the book you mentioned, cuz i'm just flailing about right now.

Enjoying the surf,sun and sand!!

zzero wrote:

Thanks Bob!! most definitely fun!! will find the book
you mentioned, cuz i'm just flailing about right now.

Amazon carries it.

Bob

Bob

Ooh, this is an old thread. Nevertheless...
I had been watching this youtube video - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XvKbbDBeBNo and got all inspired.
I recalled that I had bought an extension nut maybe 25 years ago and never used it. Almost exactly like this one:
image

Also, I had a spare electric guitar around, a mid-70s copy of an SG strung with flat-wound strings (D'Addario .011s or .012s, not sure). Really old ones.

A few minutes work with a string winder, et voila! a DIY 6-string lap steel suitable for dipping one's toe in.

The hard part was deciding which tuning to play with, just to get the gist of it.
So far, I like a C6 best, E-C-G-A-C-E. I had made a note to myself that it was interesting enough to come back to. When I did come back to it, I looked at it and thought "What? Did I really crank the D string up to a G before?" So, crank-crank-crank-TWUNK!. Arrgh, broken string.
I dug out a G string from a lightly-used set of Roto Purples, and put in in the 4th position. Great, now I have two G strings, but it works fine for a C6 tuning, without being too floppy for, say, an open E-minor tuning. Much brighter than the flat-wound D too. I get the impression that selection of string gauges for lap steel is one of the Black Arts.

My next step will be to fabricate a bridge cover out of angled aluminum, just to flatten the height of the strings at the tune-o-matic bridge.

I'm still at the stage of hunting for the right notes, but I do love the spooky atmospheric sound that it gives. My biggest cash outlay was for an assortment of thumb and finger picks, plus a APM & Co Stevens steel slide bar (CAD$32!) It's 5.2 oz., I think. The glass slide I already had didn't quite do the job.

I'm not a complete idiot. Some parts are missing.

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