Tremolo / vibrato question (tremster)

RaistMagus

Joined: Mar 30, 2011
Posts: 388
Copenhagen
Denmark

Posted on Jun 30 2011 06:19 AM

Hi guys and gals.

I would like to know your opinions on amp trem vs pedal trem effect. For the time being I have neither but I'm off to buy me a Deluxe Reverb Amp plus I got the chance to swap my fuzz for the T-Rex Tremster pedal. Since I will get the amp sometime, is it's trem good, or do you think a pedal is required?

Anyone had any experience with this specific pedal?

Thanks in advance

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killbabykill34

Joined: Apr 03, 2010
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Jacksonville, AL
United States

Posted on Jun 30 2011 08:00 AM

I have been seriously shopping for a good tremolo pedal that closely matches the old Fender onboard effect and it has been a difficult search. After sampling about 50 pedals that are out there the only one I have found that I really love the tone of is the Malekko Tremolo. They run 100 new and sound absolutely amazing. At the same time, there are some much more versitile Tremolo pedals out there.

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killbabykill34

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Jacksonville, AL
United States

Posted on Jun 30 2011 08:01 AM

I suggest checking out proguitar.com. That site has demo videos of the majority of the pedals they carry and they videos are pretty vast in the varied tones that they show.

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DannySnyder

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Berkeley, CA
United States

Posted on Jun 30 2011 09:31 AM

Try the amp tremolo first. Many people are very satisfied with it. Plus, it's one less battery you need to keep stocked.

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Joelman

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Redlands, CA
United States

Posted on Jun 30 2011 10:04 PM

I agree with Danny on this one. I have a deluxe reverb. I love the tremolo.

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scotstandard

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Posted on Jul 03 2011 09:19 PM

amp

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Ron-Rhoades

Joined: Aug 19, 2006
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Kekaha, Kauai, Hawaii
United States

Posted on Jul 03 2011 10:01 PM

I have a TR-2 but i use the trem in my amp all the time now! They don't compare.

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scotstandard

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Posted on Jul 04 2011 02:10 AM

Brown amp

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TyPierce

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Posted on Jul 05 2011 07:36 PM

I like the "Standard Blackface" tremolo on my Pro Reverb, but I couldn't stand the volume drop when playing live.

I started hunting around for a trem pedal I liked, and ended up with the Mojo Hand Sugar Baby. Supposedly based on a brownface circuit, it has some extra wobble/pitchiness/greasiness that the Blackface chop doesn't have, and it's adjustable to maintain the perception of unity volume.

If you want to stick with the Blackface sound, maybe check out the Voodoo Labs tremolo. It's pretty adjustable and can be had used for under $100 usually.

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JObeast

Joined: Jul 24, 2012
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Finknabad, Squinkistan
Turkmenistan

Posted on Dec 03 2014 10:27 PM

Obsessing on tremolo lately, I experimented with my 1960 Gibson GA-20T (for Tremolo) Ranger amp, a 20w 12" tweed combo which was modified by Mark Sampson of Matchless Amps before I bought it. The Ranger has two discrete channels (4 inputs), a bright Tremolo channel & a dark Dry channel. Mr Sampson has tweaked the two to function very differently.
The tremolo (bright) channel actually gets significantly louder when the tremolo circuit is engaged. THe speed range goes from a moderate top speed to a very slow one, maybe less than 60Hz. The circuit is problematic as the effect tends to dissipate at low speed & intensity settings. It also does not come on immediately when re-engaged after this fade-out, but fades in gradually over several seconds. I'd like to know what kind of tremolo circuit this is, ho wit compares with Fenders. GA-20T Schematic
Today I made use of an ABY switch pedal and for the first time ever (!) ran both channels of the GA-20T at the same time. I thought they might be out-of-phase but they are not and the result was very good. Particularly the tremolo sound was enhanced when the dry channel (tweaked for a dark fat overdrive by Sampson)got some reverb & even more with a low-mid formant filtered with a CryBaby wah-wah. Biasing the two respective parallel channels' tones for contrast (bright vs. very dark, similar gain) yields an intense Brownface-like vocalic warble that reminds me of the excellent tremolo my 70s Music Man 112 65 produced, almost like a Uni-Vibe at high intensity settings. I intend to keep experimenting with this very satisfying setup to see if I don't need to buy a pedal that does that Brownface thing any better.
Can anyone tell me why this works? I'm not an electronics expert so I have no idea what produces this enhanced effect.

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RaistMagus Joined: Mar 30, 2011 Posts: 388 Copenhagen	Posted on Jun 30 2011 06:19 AM Hi guys and gals. I would like to know your opinions on amp trem vs pedal trem effect. For the time being I have neither but I'm off to buy me a Deluxe Reverb Amp plus I got the chance to swap my fuzz for the T-Rex Tremster pedal. Since I will get the amp sometime, is it's trem good, or do you think a pedal is required? Anyone had any experience with this specific pedal? Thanks in advance — https://zakandthekrakens.bandcamp.com/ https://www.dirtyfuse.com Top
killbabykill34 Joined: Apr 03, 2010 Posts: 3201 Jacksonville, AL	Posted on Jun 30 2011 08:00 AM I have been seriously shopping for a good tremolo pedal that closely matches the old Fender onboard effect and it has been a difficult search. After sampling about 50 pedals that are out there the only one I have found that I really love the tone of is the Malekko Tremolo. They run 100 new and sound absolutely amazing. At the same time, there are some much more versitile Tremolo pedals out there. — THE KBK ... This is the last known signal. We offer Sanctuary. www.thekbk.com http://www.deepeddy.net/artists/thekbk/ www.reverbnation.com/thekbk www.facebook.com/thekbkal Top
killbabykill34 Joined: Apr 03, 2010 Posts: 3201 Jacksonville, AL	Posted on Jun 30 2011 08:01 AM I suggest checking out proguitar.com. That site has demo videos of the majority of the pedals they carry and they videos are pretty vast in the varied tones that they show. — THE KBK ... This is the last known signal. We offer Sanctuary. www.thekbk.com http://www.deepeddy.net/artists/thekbk/ www.reverbnation.com/thekbk www.facebook.com/thekbkal Top
DannySnyder Joined: Mar 02, 2006 Posts: 11079 Berkeley, CA	Posted on Jun 30 2011 09:31 AM Try the amp tremolo first. Many people are very satisfied with it. Plus, it's one less battery you need to keep stocked. — Danny Snyder "With great reverb comes great responsibility" - Uncle Leo I am now playing trumpet with Prince Buster tribute band 'Balzac' Playing keys and guitar with Combo Tezeta Formerly a guitarist in The TomorrowMen and Meshugga Beach Party Latest surf project - Now That's What I Call SURF Top
Joelman Joined: Sep 07, 2006 Posts: 1509 Redlands, CA	Posted on Jun 30 2011 10:04 PM I agree with Danny on this one. I have a deluxe reverb. I love the tremolo. Top
scotstandard Joined: Nov 09, 2008 Posts: 1140 Davenport Iowa	Posted on Jul 03 2011 09:19 PM amp — Give me reverb or give me death! facebook.com/onenightstandards https://www.youtube.com/scotstandard scotstandard@yahoo.com Top
Ron-Rhoades Joined: Aug 19, 2006 Posts: 958 Kekaha, Kauai, Hawaii	Posted on Jul 03 2011 10:01 PM I have a TR-2 but i use the trem in my amp all the time now! They don't compare. — The TakeOffs "Kauai's Only All-Instrumental Surf Band" http://www.facebook.com/pages/The-TakeOffs/312866840587 Top
scotstandard Joined: Nov 09, 2008 Posts: 1140 Davenport Iowa	Posted on Jul 04 2011 02:10 AM Brown amp — Give me reverb or give me death! facebook.com/onenightstandards https://www.youtube.com/scotstandard scotstandard@yahoo.com Top
TyPierce Joined: Oct 26, 2007 Posts: 542	Posted on Jul 05 2011 07:36 PM I like the "Standard Blackface" tremolo on my Pro Reverb, but I couldn't stand the volume drop when playing live. I started hunting around for a trem pedal I liked, and ended up with the Mojo Hand Sugar Baby. Supposedly based on a brownface circuit, it has some extra wobble/pitchiness/greasiness that the Blackface chop doesn't have, and it's adjustable to maintain the perception of unity volume. If you want to stick with the Blackface sound, maybe check out the Voodoo Labs tremolo. It's pretty adjustable and can be had used for under $100 usually. — Join Australosurfecus on: The Web \| Facebook Top
JObeast Joined: Jul 24, 2012 Posts: 2762 Finknabad, Squinkistan	Posted on Dec 03 2014 10:27 PM Obsessing on tremolo lately, I experimented with my 1960 Gibson GA-20T (for Tremolo) Ranger amp, a 20w 12" tweed combo which was modified by Mark Sampson of Matchless Amps before I bought it. The Ranger has two discrete channels (4 inputs), a bright Tremolo channel & a dark Dry channel. Mr Sampson has tweaked the two to function very differently. The tremolo (bright) channel actually gets significantly louder when the tremolo circuit is engaged. THe speed range goes from a moderate top speed to a very slow one, maybe less than 60Hz. The circuit is problematic as the effect tends to dissipate at low speed & intensity settings. It also does not come on immediately when re-engaged after this fade-out, but fades in gradually over several seconds. I'd like to know what kind of tremolo circuit this is, ho wit compares with Fenders. GA-20T Schematic Today I made use of an ABY switch pedal and for the first time ever (!) ran both channels of the GA-20T at the same time. I thought they might be out-of-phase but they are not and the result was very good. Particularly the tremolo sound was enhanced when the dry channel (tweaked for a dark fat overdrive by Sampson)got some reverb & even more with a low-mid formant filtered with a CryBaby wah-wah. Biasing the two respective parallel channels' tones for contrast (bright vs. very dark, similar gain) yields an intense Brownface-like vocalic warble that reminds me of the excellent tremolo my 70s Music Man 112 65 produced, almost like a Uni-Vibe at high intensity settings. I intend to keep experimenting with this very satisfying setup to see if I don't need to buy a pedal that does that Brownface thing any better. Can anyone tell me why this works? I'm not an electronics expert so I have no idea what produces this enhanced effect. — Squink Out! Top

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