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Anyone played the eastwood sidejack or hi flyer?
apparently it is supposed to be really good quality for surf.

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vulture
Anyone played the eastwood sidejack or hi flyer?
apparently it is supposed to be really good quality for surf.

Ive been searching for a relatively cheap Mosrite-type guitar and from what my limited search has concluded is that the Wilson Bros vm110 is the best bang for the buck. All im going on of course is reviews since where I live nobody even heard of Mosrite let-alone any Mosrite copies which means I will never be able to test drive any of the copies (or the real deal for that matter). I cant even test a Jag or Jazzmaster because the only store near me that even carries them doesnt set them up so you cant play them)) The only one I know for sure to avoid buying is the Jay Turser model, I had a Jay Turser and it was pretty crappy.

The Hi-Flyer I've played is one of the worst guitars of all-time. I've never played the Sidejack though. I really hate the carve on the top of the guitar though. Its repulsive.

None of these are Mosrites. They are just cheap copies that don't look right.

As for the Wilson Brothers. Why do we consider these Mosrite copies? Even if flipped upside down they don't look right. Reminds me more of a strat copy save for the hardware.

The best looking copy is the Excellent which everybody considers a Mosrite. The next best in my opinion is the Dillion. Which still isn't a Mosrite no matter how much you want it to be.

i was on harmony and the hi flyer was said to be near as good as a fender

would the stop tail hi flyer be a better choice because it stays in tune?

only grudge i have against it is no tremolo. ive seen add ons but it doesnt seem worth it.

im having to choose between this and a squier jagmaster.

of course if i get the jag ill put jazzm pickups in with a few pickguard adjustments.

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vulture
i was on harmony and the hi flyer was said to be near as good as a fender

would the stop tail hi flyer be a better choice because it stays in tune?

only grudge i have against it is no tremolo. ive seen add ons but it doesnt seem worth it.

im having to choose between this and a squier jagmaster.

of course if i get the jag ill put jazzm pickups in with a few pickguard adjustments.

Harmony Central... Are you kidding me? They'll say anything on that site cause they really don't know anything and none of them has ever played a decent guitar in their lives. And yes, it could be as good as a Fender. But what model of Fender? Fender makes a lot of crap as do all guitar manufacturers.

I too would take HC with more than a grain of salt. its lots of pele who have just bought something and with little experience (often even if they claim otherwise I suspect).

GP has been raving about the eastwoods as well (but then again, when is the last time GP gave a bad review of something?)

I dont know about the eastwoods. I kinda like the concept behind the firm, but have never played one. Im thinking Id prefer it over a jagmaster, but really, why not save a bit extra for an ebay jap Jag or a mex strat. better guitars all around, and not that much more expensive. (and if you really need the mosrite, you have TWO kidneys right?)

WR

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If you really want a Mosrite, a brand new Excellent can be had for under $1,300, which is not bad nor too expensive for a class A guitar. Zammic sell's 'em on ebay all the time (I bought mine from him).
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vulture
Anyone played the eastwood sidejack or hi flyer?
apparently it is supposed to be really good quality for surf.

The only one I know for sure to avoid buying is the Jay Turser model, I had a Jay Turser and it was pretty crappy.

Do you mean the Jay Turser JT-280 Mosrite shaped model? I'm willing to bet the Eastwood is made in the same factory - so those 2 guitars should play the same.

My bandmate Mark has an Eastwood Tokai Hummingbird clone - and after some set-up,  it plays pretty well,  and sounds good.  If the Sidejack is as good as the Hummingbird,  it's probably a pretty good guitar for the money.

I had a mosrite Excellent - it was the hardest guitar ever to play (for me).   I know other guys that love them, but I couldn't do it. I even went so far as to make it the only guitar I played for about a month,  and I still couldn't play it.  I had to sell it.  it got to the point where I didn't want to play guitar because that guitar made me feel like I had gone backwards in ability.

Chris

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All..
I've played the Mosrite 'EXCELLENT' - not a bad guitar.. but not cut the same way an original sixties Ventures model is made.
Bear a few things in mind.. it's Japanese.. and the Japanese also have their share of small fingered folk like me. So you may come to the conclusion as a lot of I-can't-play-it SG101 members come to. Tough for you but good for the Japanese and me. If you have experienced tuning problems, you might want to start experimenting with the short and tall springs available from Zamminc with a different string gauge - and make sure the nut slots aren't binding. I have my share of these axes and DON'T have tuning issues. And I HAMMER the tremolo arm at times.

Jake: Historical point.. the Mosrite body IS a tracing of a Fender Stratocaster turned upside down.. this by Semie's own words. I would refer you to the last couple of issues of Vintage Guitar Magazine.

I would never attempt any serious blues bends on a Mosrite..(what I call vertical playing).. that's for another guitar. The Mosrite is for horizontal playing. So if you feel that the Mosrite (or any other guitar) is holding you back, sure, get a different axe if you can. The guitar can't change players.. the player has to change guitars.. live and learn.
I've played much of what's out there to play. I have my share of other manufacturers stuff (the G makers, the F makers ..etc) I LIKE MY MOSRITES.

If you guys want a real guitar go get a reverend. My search for surf guitars ended last year.

rockfish
If you guys want a real guitar go get a reverend. My search for surf guitars ended last year.

I just checked thier website and they look pretty cool. I like the Flying V one especially.

Johnny
I feel the same way about Gretsch's.
My 1962 single cut 6120 (orange of course) is a dream player. It stays in tune, sounds just like that legendary guitar should. It's in a 9/10 condition and was set-up ONCE 6 years ago and has played without a single issue ever since.

Ask anyone and they will tell you that old Gretsch's are the most frustrating, unreliable and finicky instruments ever concieved, leading to the statetment: "Never trust anything that once was a tree". But mine is amazing, reliable and has seen many gigs. Of course it's worth upwards of 6K now. New Gretsch's are just well made but do not feel the same nor sound the same (nitro vs. poly?) as REAL ones from before 1967.

I insist though: why is it so..so rare to see any surf band playing Mosrites on stage? Here in LA where we have more surf bands than anywhere else (duh), I have not seen ONE Mosrite (new or vintage) on stage. I have seen one WB VM-2003 once but even that guy never used it again that I know of (and he owns several Mosrites incl. vintage ones). Last night at Baja Marty's B-day bash it was, as someone said a "Surf guitar Hall of fame" event. All you could see were Jags, JM's and strats. Amps varied more, as did effects (or absence of ). Johnny, maybe on the East Coast Mosrites are more popular than here? Any thoughts on why guys here will spend THOUSANDS on vintage JM's, jags and strats, stock Showmans etc but nary a Mosrite, not-a-one? Hey...I BOUGHT one and really tried to like it....but my VM-110 showed me what it should really feel like.....

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rockfish
If you guys want a real guitar go get a reverend. My search for surf guitars ended last year.

rockfish - I have been looking at the Reverend's. Haven't played one yet, I don't have a dealer close by. Which model do you have? What do you really like about it for surf? Just curious.

Beener

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I have the charger 290 and a jetstream 390. the reverend p90s are incredible, not at all harsh like gibson type p90s. plus the bass contour control goes from a thick p90 sound to a strat shimmer. the build quality is equal to any american fender and the price can't be beat. i have that les trem on the charger and love it. now im trying to decide which one to get next. lol

hey rockfish....how much dip can you get out of the lestrem unit? i imagine it is very similar to a bigsby but can it get more movement like a jazz/jag?
i played a mosrite a few weeks ago for the first time and the trem just blew me away. the freakin thing stayed in tune? i mean when you dip down everything goes down equally. just like i hear it on the ventures live in 65 album. ive been wanting to find something that can get that kind of dip to add to a parts guitar. i figure this wouldnt do anywhere near that though....

Tim

its like a bigsby but with a little more dip to it. very smooth and just right.

WR
I too would take HC with more than a grain of salt. its lots of pele who have just bought something and with little experience (often even if they claim otherwise I suspect).

GP has been raving about the eastwoods as well (but then again, when is the last time GP gave a bad review of something?)

I dont know about the eastwoods. I kinda like the concept behind the firm, but have never played one. Im thinking Id prefer it over a jagmaster, but really, why not save a bit extra for an ebay jap Jag or a mex strat. better guitars all around, and not that much more expensive. (and if you really need the mosrite, you have TWO kidneys right?)

WR

buying a jap jag is a BIG differece to buying a jagmaster.
jagmaster - $450
jag - $1000+
now what may seem cheap to the americans to buy, works out very expensive in australia. i cant be bothered saving up more since i still have to buy my stack.

so jagmaster or eastwood?
i havent heard any awesome reviews about the jagmaster. it seems that the neck is really slow and the action is really bad.

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Is your stack your profile image? Isn't that amp only 5 watts? It also only has one knob... Its pretty much under practice amp territory in terms of versatility and power. Plus the speakers for that amp costs like $230US which is a ton to spend on something that isn't going to be gigged with. And it can't be gigged with.

I'm going to recommend a Crate Powerblock to you. Same price as the Epi head but much much better.

But I really suggest saving up for much nicer gear. I really wish I didn't have my cheaper gear and that I saved up right away to buy nice stuff because I could have had it sooner. And when you buy nice gear you can almost always sale it back for the price you bought it for if not more.

Jagmaster or Eastwood? get the Eastwood. Then write a review here so we can all find out what its like.

Good luck finding a Crate Power Block now - everyones out of them, and they're selling for more than $125 on the 'bay. + it still needs a cabinet.

I'm going to try an Epi Valve Jr. Monday afternoon at band practice with a 15" JBL cabinet. I'll let you know how it works.

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