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casey
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Link Posted on Apr 30 2011 10:09 AM

Wondering what camera(s) work well for shooting video in a typical bar/club venue. Some of the fairly small hand held cameras have pretty good video and audio - any suggestions? Thanks, Casey

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Link Posted on May 01 2011 11:56 AM

I'm no expert by any means but i know a good shot when i see it.
Check this piece of footage from SG101 member Keelson:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qlWYdNgr57A
I sent him a pm and asked what he used, he replied, a Canon Powershot SX1 IS.
Secondhand they're not too expensive and what a great zoom. I think Keelson's youtube proves that if you have a decent lens/zoom, shoot from further back the results are better picture and (probably) better audio.

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Link Posted on May 01 2011 01:43 PM

Check out this thread.

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Link Posted on May 01 2011 06:21 PM

I'd suggest a "Go Pro" camera. No worries about stability, and dropping it or beer spilled on it. I'm saving for one right now

http://gopro.com/

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Link Posted on May 01 2011 09:32 PM

Nice info, appreciate it. Unsteady Freddie shot some video of us once with a really small handheld and it came out great. Brian's setup took great video but I am pretty sure I'd like something smaller that fits in one hand and preferably a pocket, simple enough to get someone in the audience to use it. Right now I have a lumix that would be fine except yoiui can't use the zoom while shooting - it has to be set before engaging the video, then you are stuck with that setting. Its an older model.

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Link Posted on May 01 2011 09:43 PM

Well if you skip the external mic and bracket then it definitely will fit in your pocket: Kodak Zi8.

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Link Posted on May 28 2011 11:27 PM

I like my Flip camera because the sound is surprisingly good - they must have some kind of noise filtering software on it. Also, it does quite well in low light. Ridiculously good quality, very simple to operate.

Cisco is killing the Flip business, that makes me mad. I would grab one now - probably the prices are going down. Blue Microphones was making a mic for it, but I don't know if you can still get one or how well they worked.

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Link Posted on Jun 03 2011 09:08 PM

casey wrote:

Nice info, appreciate it. Unsteady Freddie shot some
video of us once with a really small handheld and it
came out great. Brian's setup took great video but I am
pretty sure I'd like something smaller that fits in one
hand and preferably a pocket, simple enough to get
someone in the audience to use it. Right now I have a
lumix that would be fine except yoy can't use the
zoom while shooting - it has to be set before engaging
the video, then you are stuck with that setting. Its an
older model.

The one Freddie uses (and he's told us what it is, but I don't have the note handy - mayb e it was here?) does allow active zooming as far as I can tell. My Sony DSC W220 doesn't. It is OK for sound and pretty decent in low light, but not as good at either as the Sony video camera I have.

The video camera is a Sony HDR-HC9. Apart from working fairly well in low light it has an infra-red-ionformed mode that works in extremely low light, a working situation popular with Denver bands and clubs. It allows an external mic, though the selection from Sony itself is not very extensive or high range, and it is one of the cheapest to have adjustable input volume. I think its major rival in that area is the Canon mentioned above.

I actually use the built in smart damping instead of the adjustable input volume because it is too hard to adjust the levels on the fly for an arbitary context. However, smart damping can seriously modify the sound, not always for the worse, but you'll notice the changes. When I say "not always for the worse" I mean that if you have a lead guitar who drowns out everyone else the damping process actually squashes him more than the others (if they are in different pitch ranges) and so "balances" things.

Another effect of Sony smart damping is to bring out the highs (cymbals) and push down the lows (bass). (I actually have the impression that some of YouTube's filtering is specifically designed to counter this effect.)

I wish the Sony had a workable volume adjuster with a display, and I wish I could find a better mic for it. It can be a little hard to find find high density tape for it sometimes, too, locally.

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