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Brian

Joined: Feb 25, 2006
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Des Moines, Iowa, USA
United States

Posted on Apr 16 2011 02:37 PM

The guy who created these loops is a member of this forum. I have no experience with it though, just passing it along:

http://stevesspringysurfdrums.com/default.aspx

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crumble

Joined: Sep 09, 2008
Posts: 3158
Guildford England
United Kingdom

Posted on Apr 16 2011 04:36 PM

Gary/Brian thanks for the info. I'm moving along to Windows-7 64bit (from XP) and i'm guessing a lot of my old audio software will need replacing. I'm going go back to simplicity with Sony Music Studio (Acid) retail boxed, 20GBP (about $32),I'm trying it out now and it's a well featured DAW. Especially good for loop samples.

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killbabykill34

Joined: Apr 03, 2010
Posts: 3201
Jacksonville, AL
United States

Posted on Apr 17 2011 09:54 AM

crumble wrote:

Sorry Killbabykill34, i think we're getting a little
crossed up there. I wish i could handle Sonars piano
roll editor manualy like you do. Drum patterns totally
do my head in! Plugins like BFD2 & Toontracks
totally shimmer with amazing drum sound, that's true.

I was asking about the BFA Surf CD (Big Fish
Audio)because it's a lot of money and most of the
sample files (excuding the drums) are useless to me. If
theres a gigabyte worth of good honest surf drum loops
i might well buy it.

I will look into BFA...as far as using Sonar's piano roll editor, I have never actually used it as an input device. I take the tedious route and click in the hits onto the grid using my mouse. I map out the main parts and then copy and paste them, adding a bit of variation after pasting. Even more, BFD2 has a feature that 'humanizes' the beats by adding in velocity and timing variations that mimic the human inability to be roboticly consistent when drumming. Still, despite it being pretty accurate, it is tedious at best. I wish I had a midi drum interface. Either way, it is better than nothing when demoing songs to bring into practice, and I feel songs come together much better when I can lay my thoughts down as such.

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crumble

Joined: Sep 09, 2008
Posts: 3158
Guildford England
United Kingdom

Posted on Apr 17 2011 03:36 PM

"midi drum interface" as in electric drumkit?

My pal and me were drooling over Rolands entry level revolutionary electric kit.
Roland HD-1 V-Drum.

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DeadRanchHands

Joined: Apr 15, 2008
Posts: 1281
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Posted on Apr 17 2011 11:20 PM

GaryPlanets wrote:

Having played with the BFA Surf stuff a little, I'd say
save your money if it's drums only that you want if
you're at all comfortable with some other drum
programs. But, Crumble since you say you don't used
BFD/Toontrack and the like, I'd say it might be worth
it for you. But, only if you're just starting to build
a library. There's usable stuff, for sure. But, not
as much as I'd hoped, and truthfully, I'm having buyers
remorse wishing I'd bought the Wild West version
instead.

Hmm, just not a large variety of sounds or what?

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DeadRanchHands

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Posted on Apr 17 2011 11:29 PM

Brian wrote:

The guy who created these loops is a member of this
forum. I have no experience with it though, just
passing it along:

http://stevesspringysurfdrums.com/default.aspx

I've got those - they're really easy to use

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GaryPlanets

Joined: Jun 22, 2010
Posts: 120
Durham, NC
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Posted on Apr 18 2011 06:50 AM

DeadRanchHands wrote:

Hmm, just not a large variety of sounds or what?

Not so much that, but rather it's mostly stuff that I could've made relatively easily via toontrack. I'm not saying I won't be able to use them. I was just expecting a broader array of "surfy" beats. Most are pretty standard here. It's the other sounds around them that are making them surfy, and I don't need those others sounds!

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Eric

Joined: Sep 29, 2007
Posts: 30

Posted on Oct 13 2011 10:38 AM

As a strictly home player who would like to create a backing track, instead of playing over the CD (lead guitar & all) Could the BFA Surf or Wild West pack do the job?

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flip

Joined: Jan 05, 2008
Posts: 43
Los Angeles
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Posted on Nov 07 2011 10:44 PM

I have been using EZ drummer for a few years now. It's well.....Easy. FIf you want to crank out some demos or work out songs its perfect and simple to edit. You can alsp torture your real drummer by insisting he plays the insane fill you created ......at 200 bpm of course. FUN!

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Brian Joined: Feb 25, 2006 Posts: 19268 Des Moines, Iowa, USA	Posted on Apr 16 2011 02:37 PM The guy who created these loops is a member of this forum. I have no experience with it though, just passing it along: http://stevesspringysurfdrums.com/default.aspx — Site dude - S3 Agent #202 Need help with the site? SG101 FAQ - Send me a private message - Email me "It starts... when it begins" -- Ralf Kilauea Last edited: Apr 16, 2011 16:43:43 Top
crumble Joined: Sep 09, 2008 Posts: 3158 Guildford England	Posted on Apr 16 2011 04:36 PM Gary/Brian thanks for the info. I'm moving along to Windows-7 64bit (from XP) and i'm guessing a lot of my old audio software will need replacing. I'm going go back to simplicity with Sony Music Studio (Acid) retail boxed, 20GBP (about $32),I'm trying it out now and it's a well featured DAW. Especially good for loop samples. Top
killbabykill34 Joined: Apr 03, 2010 Posts: 3201 Jacksonville, AL	Posted on Apr 17 2011 09:54 AM crumble wrote: Sorry Killbabykill34, i think we're getting a little crossed up there. I wish i could handle Sonars piano roll editor manualy like you do. Drum patterns totally do my head in! Plugins like BFD2 & Toontracks totally shimmer with amazing drum sound, that's true. I was asking about the BFA Surf CD (Big Fish Audio)because it's a lot of money and most of the sample files (excuding the drums) are useless to me. If theres a gigabyte worth of good honest surf drum loops i might well buy it. I will look into BFA...as far as using Sonar's piano roll editor, I have never actually used it as an input device. I take the tedious route and click in the hits onto the grid using my mouse. I map out the main parts and then copy and paste them, adding a bit of variation after pasting. Even more, BFD2 has a feature that 'humanizes' the beats by adding in velocity and timing variations that mimic the human inability to be roboticly consistent when drumming. Still, despite it being pretty accurate, it is tedious at best. I wish I had a midi drum interface. Either way, it is better than nothing when demoing songs to bring into practice, and I feel songs come together much better when I can lay my thoughts down as such. — THE KBK ... This is the last known signal. We offer Sanctuary. www.thekbk.com http://www.deepeddy.net/artists/thekbk/ www.reverbnation.com/thekbk www.facebook.com/thekbkal Top
crumble Joined: Sep 09, 2008 Posts: 3158 Guildford England	Posted on Apr 17 2011 03:36 PM "midi drum interface" as in electric drumkit? My pal and me were drooling over Rolands entry level revolutionary electric kit. Roland HD-1 V-Drum. image Top
DeadRanchHands Joined: Apr 15, 2008 Posts: 1281	Posted on Apr 17 2011 11:20 PM GaryPlanets wrote: Having played with the BFA Surf stuff a little, I'd say save your money if it's drums only that you want if you're at all comfortable with some other drum programs. But, Crumble since you say you don't used BFD/Toontrack and the like, I'd say it might be worth it for you. But, only if you're just starting to build a library. There's usable stuff, for sure. But, not as much as I'd hoped, and truthfully, I'm having buyers remorse wishing I'd bought the Wild West version instead. Hmm, just not a large variety of sounds or what? — http://www.reverbnation.com/thedeadranchhands http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jZEW74mHjQk Top
DeadRanchHands Joined: Apr 15, 2008 Posts: 1281	Posted on Apr 17 2011 11:29 PM Brian wrote: The guy who created these loops is a member of this forum. I have no experience with it though, just passing it along: http://stevesspringysurfdrums.com/default.aspx I've got those - they're really easy to use — http://www.reverbnation.com/thedeadranchhands http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jZEW74mHjQk Top
GaryPlanets Joined: Jun 22, 2010 Posts: 120 Durham, NC	Posted on Apr 18 2011 06:50 AM DeadRanchHands wrote: Hmm, just not a large variety of sounds or what? Not so much that, but rather it's mostly stuff that I could've made relatively easily via toontrack. I'm not saying I won't be able to use them. I was just expecting a broader array of "surfy" beats. Most are pretty standard here. It's the other sounds around them that are making them surfy, and I don't need those others sounds! — Full length "Chases Lead to Crashes" available now - The Red Planets Top
Eric Joined: Sep 29, 2007 Posts: 30	Posted on Oct 13 2011 10:38 AM As a strictly home player who would like to create a backing track, instead of playing over the CD (lead guitar & all) Could the BFA Surf or Wild West pack do the job? Top
flip Joined: Jan 05, 2008 Posts: 43 Los Angeles	Posted on Nov 07 2011 10:44 PM I have been using EZ drummer for a few years now. It's well.....Easy. FIf you want to crank out some demos or work out songs its perfect and simple to edit. You can alsp torture your real drummer by insisting he plays the insane fill you created ......at 200 bpm of course. FUN! — www.reverbnation.com/thetahitishuttleexperiment www.facebook.com/pages/The-Tahiti-Shuttle-Experiment/144705578903043 www.tahitishuttleexperiment.com Top

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