ECsurf
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Posted on Jan 09 2007 07:16 AM
I was looking at the Carl martin surf trem.. is it worth i;t hows it sound and such.. and I was wondering about his other effect pedals does anyone have any information on them if so please let me know..
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WR
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Posted on Jan 09 2007 07:34 AM
the tremolo thread
the search function will reveal more threads where it has been discussed.
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ECsurf
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Posted on Jan 09 2007 07:41 AM
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WaimeaBay
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Posted on Jan 09 2007 08:21 AM
ec, i have a brand new one for sale. The only reason why I dont use it is because my gomez surfer amp has it built in. Its a really good pedal. I am not trying to blow smoke up your ass because I wanan sell it.
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dp
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Posted on Jan 09 2007 10:39 AM
i'd say the CM SurfTrem is a great sounding pedal! check out the tremolo thread like WR suggested for further comments and info...
good luck,
-dp
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CaptainSpringfield
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Posted on Jan 09 2007 07:40 PM
Seriously, buy one. It's got to be made primarily out of magic. Some metal, but mostly magic.
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JakeDobner
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Posted on Jan 09 2007 09:28 PM
I'd personally want to check out other trem pedals. The Carl Martin appears to be very limited. Sure it can do the "surf trem", but is that really what you want? You are going to be stuck with one sound. If you buy another pedal you can get many other variations as some pedals have 4 knobs and a switch to change wave patterns. Smooth and choppy patterns. Sometimes I really prefer choppy and other times I don't.
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Flowmaster_G
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Posted on Jan 09 2007 09:51 PM
I have a Carl martin Surf Trem, used it in one band practice with The Flowmasters so far. It sounds just like the term on my bandmaster "on a good day". Actually it sounds the way my bandmaster's trem SHOULD sound.
It gives an ever-so-slight signal boost, which is better than sucking-out tone. I would call mit 98% transparent and it seems well built.
I'm keeping it on my very reduced-size pedaboard (only other pedals are a Boss tuner, a Fulltone Fatboost -trebble booster- and a Fuzzrite).
I'm playing with two amps now; a 66 Showman + 15" cab with only outboard verb , and a Powerblock with a 12" Celestion that receives the Fuzzrite, Fulltone Fatboost and the Carl Martin signals. I find that keeping the Verb alone without anything else going through it sounds great and clear.
The Powerblock sounds fantastic, offering a very clear, crisp tone that complements the thick depth of the Showman. Since I never use any of the effects combined (Fuzzrite, trebble boost or Surftrem), it sounds great.
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ECsurf
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Posted on Jan 09 2007 09:57 PM
Any comments about the Voodoo trem?
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JakeDobner
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Posted on Jan 09 2007 10:02 PM
If the Carl Martin reproduces the Bandmaster pretty well then that would turn me off. The blackface Showman and Bandmaster trem circuits are pretty looked down upon. I hate my Showman trem circuit. Just not what sound I want to get. I got a Vibroverb for better onboard trem. It is stronger but not that much better.
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SurfBandBill
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Posted on Jan 09 2007 10:09 PM
I don't know if I'd speak so boldly as Jake, but my Showman trem is adequate. I don't rave about it, but it works well for the few times during a set that I use it.
It's really a matter of how much you want to focus on one particular aspect. For myself, I'm happy using my stock amp trem when I need to and saving for something like a new guitar or other goodies.
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JakeDobner
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Posted on Jan 09 2007 10:42 PM
I just need more bite out of my trem. For the song we use it on, I need it to create sort of a foreboding sense of uneasiness.
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DannySnyder
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Posted on Jan 09 2007 10:48 PM
I actually make substantial use of my trem and desire more depth than my showman is capable of. Also my vibrato channel is about 20% quieter than my normal channel which I'm not thrilled about. My pro reverb of the same year has a much deeper tremolo. For the showman, I'm looking at the Fulltone supa-trem, seems like people are very happy with it and it's quite versatile.
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JakeDobner
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Posted on Jan 09 2007 11:05 PM
I've never played the Supa-Trem but you can't go wrong with Fulltone. Quality boutique stuff. Its going to be true-bypass and it isn't going to kill your levels like most pedals will even if they advertise it won't.
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CaptainSpringfield
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Posted on Jan 10 2007 12:32 AM
JakeDobner
Sure it can do the "surf trem", but is that really what you want?
That's why _I_ bought it, and am recommending it to others. If you want something with the potential to sound more ridiculous and out-of-control, sure, look elsewhere. If you want a "surf trem," then I think the name is pretty much a dead giveaway. And going off the fact that this is a surf discussion board, my guess is yes, that is what most people here want.
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JakeDobner
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Posted on Jan 10 2007 12:45 AM
The other pedals do the surf trem as well, you just get more options for you trem. Its not as much a one-trick pony. I'm sure the surf trem does a great surf trem. All it needs is an optio-isolator to replicate the sound.
My favorite onboard trem is the Fender "brown" "tube based" trem. The surf trem can't do that. Surf trem does blackface trem which sounds gorgeous in slower songs. Nebula's Supernova is the best example I can think of.
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WR
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Posted on Jan 10 2007 03:32 AM
JakeDobner
The other pedals do the surf trem as well, you just get more options for you trem. Its not as much a one-trick pony. I'm sure the surf trem does a great surf trem. All it needs is an optio-isolator to replicate the sound.
My favorite onboard trem is the Fender "brown" "tube based" trem. The surf trem can't do that. Surf trem does blackface trem which sounds gorgeous in slower songs. Nebula's Supernova is the best example I can think of.
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Im not sure the nebulas use the amp's trem - Ive seen them use danelctro trempedals live I think - not 100% sure though.
eitherway, most trem pedals with multi options will not in any way come close to an amp-sound trem in my(limited) experience. you can adjust the settings, but they just f-up sound imho. but I only owned a EH pulsar and a boss. right soundmanipulation, wrong sound overall. (but great pedals for indie) the EH also had massive volume drop. Oh and I had a gerorge dennis which sounded awesome, but was to complicated to use easily. and burford electronics UFO which also doesn't come close to 'amp' trem.
i don 't think the cheap line carl martin is the best trem out there - it's the best bang for the buck though if you're looking for two knob only.
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SurfBandBill
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Posted on Jan 10 2007 03:53 AM
Wannes,
I'm 99% sure that the only pedals The Nebulas use are Danelectro Dan-Echo pedals for the long "spacey" delay.
Maybe TFJ or Eric could chime in on this one?
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WR
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Posted on Jan 10 2007 03:56 AM
I saw them with more big and mini danelectro's ... but! obvisouly I saw them cross-atlantic, perhaps they just brought some pedals on the euro tours cause they couldn't bring their own amps, that would make sense.
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dp
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Posted on Jan 10 2007 10:35 AM
eitherway, most trem pedals with multi options will not in any way come close to an amp-sound trem in my(limited) experience. you can adjust the settings, but they just f-up sound imho. but I only owned a EH pulsar and a boss. right soundmanipulation, wrong sound overall. (but great pedals for indie) the EH also had massive volume drop..
i owned the EH Pulsar for a while, but I ended up selling it on the EBAY. the Pulsar didn't produce the tremolo sound I was looking for.
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